AI Naval invasions WORKING

[Vince75]

Hello guys, I just wanted to share something on my game. I don't know if that's the case for you but since 1.23, naval invasions seem to work wayyyy better, even if it's not (yet?) perfect. I saw a dev saying in a dev diary that it didn't improve but in my game it seems to !

I'm really happy that overseas war can now be declared, this was really what was missing for me.

Here's some examples in my game ! Aragonese invasions, Raguse's on Italy, Andalusian's on Congo, Kilwa's, and also France on Macassar by a mission ! And more.

Does this happen in yours too ? Please share !

 

[CoolSpin]

The first one, Andalucia can get access via Mali -> Kong -> Congo.

But yeah, seeing VJ taking maldives made me smile

 

[Vince75]

No they went through their colonies south of Congo. But in all my games previously, when Castille or Portugal had a colony near Mali, they always attacked and rarely landed their soldiers.

 

[Sfan]

That was said in patchnotes. They fixed the AI unwillingness to go oversea.

 

[CoolSpin]

That was said in patchnotes. They fixed the AI unwillingness to go oversea.

With Pdx, its generally best to see it yourself than trust patchnotes blindly

 

[Vince75]

That was said in patchnotes. They fixed the AI unwillingness to go oversea.

No, they said they fixed them to DECLARE overseas, not to actually succeed naval invasions.

 

[PhoenixG]

The thing I see is RIP maldives.

 

[Sfan]

Well, if you check Kilwa, they always invade Madagascar now. That's just the new trend.

 

[PhoenixG]

Well in my game Kilwa got eaten by Mutapa

 

[KubiG37]

Aragon annexed The Knights (on malta), Japan had some lands in Korea, Norway regularly attacks Scotland for the islands. So it definitely works better now.
At least to a degree, AI can still fail horribly - stupid France still likes to declare conquest on GB and only then realize it has no transports (or any ships at all after their first meeting with the Royal Navy ).

 

[DanubianCossak]

So lets get some things cleared up here.

When it comes to naval invasions, we are talking about short range and long range naval invasions.

When it comes to short range naval invasions, they seem to have been broken, with AI basically NEVER annexing any province that is 1 or more sea provinces away from its main body of land. So for example Ottomans or Mamlukes would never actually invade for example Cyprus (though it would become vassal of MAM through an event iirc). This one seems to have been fixed in current version and i have seen myself both Cyprus and other places being conquered in this fashion.

Now when it comes to long range naval invasions - we have another 2 categories here. Even in last versions the AI was fairly competent at invading Americas, i would frequently see England/UK/Castille/Spain invading Meso America etc. But this had one issue: the AI was terribly inapt at actually retaining this land. So what would happen is, European country would bring a stack, beat the natives, and annex them. The annexed provinces would form up a colonial nation, and due to nationalism caused unrest they would spawn a stack that is too large for colonial nation to beat, and the mainland European AI would do nothing to help its colony. This would cause a frequent chaos in the new world with provinces flipping back and forth.

We also have a second issue with long range naval invasions: the AI seems completely incapable or unwilling to invade pretty much anything beyond South Africa. No matter what you did, you would pretty much never get UK/usual European Colonizers to ever invade anyone in India or South East Asia (or pretty much anywhere). I dont think ive seen anything of the sorts since like EU3. Another issue is that the AI doesn seem to really colonize the Philippines with any kind of priority (probably due to distance or some other issue they get colonized pretty much the last). To my knowledge this hasnt been fixed yet, or at least i havent seen it happen in game.

 

[Badesumofu]

Kilwa ate Madagascar and VJ ate Maldives in my game. Both things were nice to see.

 

[estile606]

I think that they might also be more willing to ally and otherwise influence overseas nations. I tried starting a brief game as sunda earlier, to see how they have been affected, and both tridore and ternate found allies and were actually active in the wars of those allies, sending out armies(which seem a good deal bigger now) to land on enemy shores. All ive ever seen those two do before is sit there, wait for tech to get colonies, and occasionally declare wars with each other than nobody wins due to not enough troops to siege the fort they always build.

 

[Kapi96]

It is pretty nice to finally see AI Japanese Korea

 

[atwix]

Well, if you check Kilwa, they always invade Madagascar now. That's just the new trend.

i saw madagascar eating kilwa

sakalava took their 35 dev gold mine kilwa province....

 

[Sfan]

Malagasy Fetishism too strong.

 

[HRErceg]

How could anyone invade India when by the time you come there, there is already a unified India with tech parity

 

[otaats]

France, Portugal, Castile, and super Morocco are all hoarding in on me late game. I play Karagwe, own entire central & south Africa, was owning West Africa. But when Castile+Portugal, France, and Morocco+Ottomans declare on you in period of 2 years, you sometimes need to give clay away. Seems to me that AI handles invasions better.

 

[makaramus]

gold age of briatin

 

[El_Cid_]

Ottomans annexed Rhodes on my Mamluk game, and left a 35+ stack suffering attrition there..