AI makes stupid peace offers

[DarenDF]

I noticed this earlier during my game as the Ottomans, but the AI really makes some dumb peace offers to me sometimes. Like during the second war Austria declared on me. They had a few small countries from Europe join them, but none of them really did anything. I sank a couple of their small fleets, and killed the 5,000 strong stack Austria managed to land on my territory. So if anything the war is going in my favor, yet for some reason the AI keeps sending me peace deals demanding I free my vassal of such and such country or pay them over half my money. Then a month or so later they offer me a white peace. I know the AI can be stupid but I don't remember them making such bad demands in my other recent games.

 

[CyberEagle]

... you haven't played the game for terribly long yet, have you? That always happens and I don't think anyone in here has not, at some point, complained about it.

 

[jgerofi]

It only got ridiculous with DW. Before that minors were a little more realistic. In the sense that they WPd out ASAP when the tables turned.

 

[DarenDF]

I've played it for a while before, but I am coming back from a long break of not having played the game. I guess I just forgot how bad it actually was XD .

 

[Kurblius]

You need to fight more wars involving one province minors to get a full appreciation of the limitations of the AI's diplomatic abilities.

 

[unmerged(375644)]

"You're half the world away and there is no way either of us will ever get military access? If you want peace from fear of my potential attacks, you better cancel all your vassal relationships, and give me all your money!"
"You've killed all my troops and you're seiging my only province? Release your three biggest vassals and give me all your money, and we'll call this war over!"

 

[midget_roxx]

It only got ridiculous with DW. Before that minors were a little more realistic. In the sense that they WPd out ASAP when the tables turned.

Annoying they keep spamming the message logs :/

 

[Emperor Hans]

Just ignore all peace offers and only negotiate when you're demands are on the table.
AI is too retarded to speak for themselves.

 

[jgerofi]

Especially considering that they only concede land and cash. If you're fighting to vassalize, liberate, release vassals, or restore union they just can't wrap their heads around it.

 

[ODaly]

Don't nations get a WE hit when they decline a reasonable peace offer? It could be that the AI always asks for ridiculous deals to keep from running the player into massive amounts of WE, considering how often they ask you to end the war.

 

[Noctus]

Don't nations get a WE hit when they decline a reasonable peace offer? It could be that the AI always asks for ridiculous deals to keep from running the player into massive amounts of WE, considering how often they ask you to end the war.

For that to happen they´d need a Warscore-advantage over you first. But they spam these "peace offers" ( i find them more to be direct insults) when nothing happened yet, and even when they are being in total defeat with no army left and only time ticking away till total occupation.

--> I stopped opening up AI peace offers. Otherwise i tend to annex too many minors for their insolent offers.
Ahh, okay, beat their army totally, sieging all their 2 provinces. Now just wait till the next diplomat is ready to get a peace out of them for some Prestige and perhaps some ducats. Diplomat arrives from them: "Release Croatia, The Palatinate and pay us 400 Ducats or else!" - Really, Ohhhh yeahhhhh? - 3 months, 8 Infamy Points and one less minor later game goes on.

 

[Witty Name Here]

It only got ridiculous with DW. Before that minors were a little more realistic. In the sense that they WPd out ASAP when the tables turned.

I disagree with that. I have NA and IN and the AI's peace deals seem even worse then what you described. I was playing as the Byzantines, I conquered all of Turkey, broke up the Mamluks, vassalized most of my neighbors... And when I declared a single war on a small nation like Naxos, defeated their fleet and army, and was sieging their capital, I was spammed with peace deals asking me to surrender my entire treasury and release all of my vassals.

I'd honestly say that tiny nations have...

*Sunglasses*

Napoleon Complexes

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH!

 

[Kurblius]

For that to happen they´d need a Warscore-advantage over you first. But they spam these "peace offers" ( i find them more to be direct insults) when nothing happened yet, and even when they are being in total defeat with no army left and only time ticking away till total occupation.

--> I stopped opening up AI peace offers. Otherwise i tend to annex too many minors for their insolent offers.
Ahh, okay, beat their army totally, sieging all their 2 provinces. Now just wait till the next diplomat is ready to get a peace out of them for some Prestige and perhaps some ducats. Diplomat arrives from them: "Release Croatia, The Palatinate and pay us 400 Ducats or else!" - Really, Ohhhh yeahhhhh? - 3 months, 8 Infamy Points and one less minor later game goes on.

One of these days, when you've turned off your computer and you're safely asleep in your bed, an OPM is going to creep into your room and slit your throat. Don't say I didn't warn you.

 

[Frozensky]

@OP, the AI makes peace offers based on their perceived capability to fight you. If a country's army is still alive (seemingly regardless of the actual size of the army compared to yours) and they have lower war exhaustion than you, they perceive themselves to be winning the war.

Go smash their army, you'll see them start spamming white peace because they don't wanna fight anymore.

 

[Ivan Rogov]

"Hey, this war is only beginning and our troops haven't met yet, so whydontcha gimme all your money, cancel all your treaties and release half your vassals, huh, huh?"