AI does build a mob pool

[swilhelm73]

Austria has something like a 100 military score. I Dow them, they start to mobilize. Their mil score drops to like 30.

A couple months later 80 divs show up. Their mil score climbs back up to about 100.

 

[Memnon]

Austria has something like a 100 military score. I Dow them, they start to mobilize. Their mil score drops to like 30.

A couple months later 80 divs show up. Their mil score climbs back up to about 100.

Yes, the AI does build a mobilization pool. Anyone who's ever had the misfortune of finding themselves in a protracted war with Bavaria has learned that the hard way.

 

[unmerged(29181)]

The problem I've seen is that the AI mobilizes, then demobolizes than mobilizes again and so on.

 

[Waffen9999]

Yeah I've always been stuck outside Mexico when my initial attack bogs down and than I get hit by the Mexican reserves that finally mobilize to the challenge of battle.

 

[Lamprey]

The problem I've seen is that the AI mobilizes, then demobolizes than mobilizes again and so on.

That's actually a good tactic that I often use myself when short on money.

When I want to reinforce divisions without shelling out for defence spending or promoting pops, I bump defence spending up to max for a day, mobilize, reinforce, demobilize. I used to feel guilty about it being an exploit, but heck, the AI does it

HE STARTED IT!!! (----> points at AI Austria)

Memnon, as far as Bavaria's ridiculous mobilization, that's a known bug. They have a line in their AI files somewhere which specifies their starting mobilization pool... goes something like "mobilization=#" whene "#" is their starting mob pool. Well, Bavaria and some other German minors have "mobilization=*" (something no other country has) which results in their mobilizing close to 1/2 or a million men, sometimes more than their entire population. There's also a simple fix on VickyWiki.

 

[Memnon]

Memnon, as far as Bavaria's ridiculous mobilization, that's a known bug. They have a line in their AI files somewhere which specifies their starting mobilization pool... goes something like "mobilization=#" whene "#" is their starting mob pool. Well, Bavaria and some other German minors have "mobilization=*" (something no other country has) which results in their mobilizing close to 1/2 or a million men, sometimes more than their entire population. There's also a simple fix on VickyWiki.

Well of course it's a bug. But it's a heck of a lot of fun to watch!

 

[Darkrenown]

Austria has something like a 100 military score. I Dow them, they start to mobilize. Their mil score drops to like 30.

A couple months later 80 divs show up. Their mil score climbs back up to about 100.

On the other hand, I just checked Prussia's mob pool in 1871, and they only have 16 divs in it

 

[JScott991]

Very few AI nations build reserve divisions.

Austria builds a few. Prussia starts with 16 and keeps it forever. Occasionally Russia might have a few.

This is a major problem with the game. For one thing, it gives the player an enormous advantage. As France, I can keep 100 divisions in the field as a regular army as early as 1870, backed by nearly 200 divisions in reserve. How can Prussia possibly beat that without building reserve divisions?

Also, the AI concept of constant maintaing the max number of divisions it can in the late 1800's and early 1900's, instead of using the reserve pool, means that a halfway decent player can pretty much destroy the bulk of an AI army in the early portions of a Franco-German War, Austro-Russian War, or whatever.

The lack of AI reserves is definetely in the top 5 of problems the game needs to remedy. Its not as serious as the 100% taxation of the poor equaling a world that is 90% Socialist by 1870, but it is a serious issue.

 

[unmerged(22834)]

That's actually a good tactic that I often use myself when short on money.

When I want to reinforce divisions without shelling out for defence spending or promoting pops, I bump defence spending up to max for a day, mobilize, reinforce, demobilize. I used to feel guilty about it being an exploit, but heck, the AI does it

HE STARTED IT!!! (----> points at AI Austria)

Memnon, as far as Bavaria's ridiculous mobilization, that's a known bug. They have a line in their AI files somewhere which specifies their starting mobilization pool... goes something like "mobilization=#" whene "#" is their starting mob pool. Well, Bavaria and some other German minors have "mobilization=*" (something no other country has) which results in their mobilizing close to 1/2 or a million men, sometimes more than their entire population. There's also a simple fix on VickyWiki.

I do that all the time as well Unfortunately, there have been times when I have done during a war accidently and end up having 400 division to fund when I only need 20 for the task

 

[Memnon]

I do that all the time as well Unfortunately, there have been times when I have done during a war accidently and end up having 400 division to fund when I only need 20 for the task

If that happens to you, just don't deploy the reserves, or just deploy the ones you need.

 

[JScott991]

Don't you have to pay for reserve divisions mobilized but undeployed anyway?

If that happens to you, just don't deploy the reserves, or just deploy the ones you need.

 

[Memnon]

Don't you have to pay for reserve divisions mobilized but undeployed anyway?

Yes, but if he deploys them and uses them just because he accidently mobilized, he'll suffer unnecessary POP casualties.

 

[JScott991]

That's hardly significant.

Mobilizing 200 divisions in 1870 for the Franco-Prussian war and then twice more before 1900 as France, I can still have at least 60 million FRENCHmen without taking a single European province by 1900.

Yes, but if he deploys them and uses them just because he accidently mobilized, he'll suffer unnecessary POP casualties.

 

[Memnon]

That's hardly significant.

Well, then.
I only wanted to impart a little wisdom and experience, nothing more. I also though it went without saying that if he didn't bother deploying them, he wouldn't have to manage them in battle or send them into other countries, which when you have large pools can be extra micromanagement, which many people like to avoid.
Sorry for having wasted your time, if I did.

 

[JScott991]

I didn't mean it to sound condescending, I just meant if you bother to mobilize, there is no reason to keep those divisions in the reserve pool. You are paying for them either way and their losses will not adversely effect you in more than the slightest way.

Well, then.
I only wanted to impart a little wisdom and experience, nothing more. I also though it went without saying that if he didn't bother deploying them, he wouldn't have to manage them in battle or send them into other countries, which when you have large pools can be extra micromanagement, which many people like to avoid.
Sorry for having wasted your time, if I did.