-
We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.
The circled button here, except for OB west rather than OKW
You may want to right click some provinces to give it objectives, but it tends to hold the border fine without them
How do I actually get it to do something? I was getting pretty excited about this game, but I feel it draining away fairly quickly since I barely understand anything. After some messing about I clicked that, set it to Blitzkrieg and chose a few objectives. And... nothing. Do I need to activate the AI in any other way? I set AI control of armies to completely off when I began the game, surely that doesn't mean I can't change it?
I'm in the Theater map-mode, and there doesn't seem to be anything there.
I'm in the Theater map-mode, and there doesn't seem to be anything there.
You don't really need to be in the Theatre map-mode for anything you've asked.
Setting the AI to Blitz is the best way to get it to attack but it won't storm the Maginot Line without a properly superior force. Its a fairly smart AI.
You don't really need to be in the Theatre map-mode for anything you've asked.
Setting the AI to Blitz is the best way to get it to attack but it won't storm the Maginot Line without a properly superior force. Its a fairly smart AI.
Yes, but presumably it wouldn't have a problem storming Warsaw?
For some reason, the objective-based AI didn't work on my first game but it woke up on my second attempt and each one thereafter.
In the case of Poland, try assigning several objectives. Use the victory points map-mode and assign each province with VP as on objective. I've found that the AI seems to get more done in when I do this. Perhaps think of 1 objective in the centre of an enemy country like saying at the generals briefing "Take Poland" and walking out. Perhaps think of several objectives like saying "We need to defeat Poland and these are out main objectives".Yes, but presumably it wouldn't have a problem storming Warsaw?
I'm not sure how exact that information is. It has been my experience that more objectives (not dozens, but several) makes the AI move more than assigning it the capital.
The thing is, I'm not even sure I've turned on the AI. When I started the game I set it to no AI control. But you'd think that by actually clicking the "objectives" thing and setting it to Blitzkrieging Warsaw, it would realize "hey, that guy changed his mind and wants to use the AI now".
And I've assigned lots of places, but nothing moves, literally. It's extremely frustrating. And I'm a fecking Paradox-fan, I can't imagine how difficult it must be for someone who has never even played a Paradox game before.
Yep, tried again, and the problem was... I don't know, exactly, it just didn't work the first time. Now, if we're talking about levels of difficult, that's pretty high up there; when the player is doing the right thing with no idea of why things aren't working.
And I've assigned lots of places, but nothing moves, literally. It's extremely frustrating. And I'm a fecking Paradox-fan, I can't imagine how difficult it must be for someone who has never even played a Paradox game before.
Yep, tried again, and the problem was... I don't know, exactly, it just didn't work the first time. Now, if we're talking about levels of difficult, that's pretty high up there; when the player is doing the right thing with no idea of why things aren't working.
Strange. Which level of HQ are you assigning the objectives to? Possibly to a Corps? Or if something more like an Army or Army Group, do they have enough forces under them to carry out your request?
This is exactly what I have learned too, having the AI attack multiple strategic targets has it operate MUCH more efficently than say "Take Warsaw, and yeah figure the rest out".
Is it normal that France goes on the offensive (or tries to), and then Italy runs rampant through Southern France? Virtually unopposed.
And the Finns just joined the Allies.
When the demo ended (I can only assume), literally all of Southern France was Italian, and they were advancing on Brittany. Well, they were really already there. I did... nothing. Well, I declared war on Belgium, but apparently my commander still thought it was a good idea to at least go a little bit through the Maginot Line. By then the Italians were almost closer to Paris than I was.
Interesting.. perhaps I'll come to understand it, as I, err, try to understand it. I also think it'll help immensely if I start in 1936 and actually organize the forces like I want them.
And the Finns just joined the Allies.
When the demo ended (I can only assume), literally all of Southern France was Italian, and they were advancing on Brittany. Well, they were really already there. I did... nothing. Well, I declared war on Belgium, but apparently my commander still thought it was a good idea to at least go a little bit through the Maginot Line. By then the Italians were almost closer to Paris than I was.
Interesting.. perhaps I'll come to understand it, as I, err, try to understand it. I also think it'll help immensely if I start in 1936 and actually organize the forces like I want them.
Last edited:
I had troubles with the AI until i worked out i wasnt selecting the top level of command - i set the France Theatre HQ to defence and select all the front line provinces and i set the Poland Theatre HQ to attack the key Polish cities.
I then sat back and watched them carve it up.
What i started to do last game was create a 3rd HQ called "North West HQ" to experiment with the Chain of command - i then stole a few units from both fronts to reinforce it. This helped me alot with understanding how the system works so i recommend it.
One cool thing the AI did in my game which was unexpected:
In the above scenario, since i only allocated objectives to the France Theatre on the Front Line provinces, it moved all the units in its command to that area (obviously). That meant the port city of Kiel (i think its called) was left defenceless.
So after a little while i got a message saying Kiel was captured by the British. Since i had just started creating the North West HQ, i thought i better use this army to take back the city - so i set Kiel as the objective. But before i could move the troops and attack it, the France Theatre AI had already Strategically redeployed some units itself to take back the province without me even specifying.
I thought that was pretty cool.
I can defiantly see the AI is going to be interesting to play with and against in HOI3.
I then sat back and watched them carve it up.
What i started to do last game was create a 3rd HQ called "North West HQ" to experiment with the Chain of command - i then stole a few units from both fronts to reinforce it. This helped me alot with understanding how the system works so i recommend it.
One cool thing the AI did in my game which was unexpected:
In the above scenario, since i only allocated objectives to the France Theatre on the Front Line provinces, it moved all the units in its command to that area (obviously). That meant the port city of Kiel (i think its called) was left defenceless.
So after a little while i got a message saying Kiel was captured by the British. Since i had just started creating the North West HQ, i thought i better use this army to take back the city - so i set Kiel as the objective. But before i could move the troops and attack it, the France Theatre AI had already Strategically redeployed some units itself to take back the province without me even specifying.
I thought that was pretty cool.
I can defiantly see the AI is going to be interesting to play with and against in HOI3.
I'm rubbish at this. I'm not sure how, but hours into my France attempt, I had already lost a part of the Maginot line and the Germans had put 60k men in it.
I need a more indepth explanation on how the Chain of command works along with how to get the ai to fully exploit the enemy breaks in ranks. Mine just fail miserably.
I just tried Germany again and i got the hang of the command structure.
This is really interesting, and personally i will enjoy big fronts much more now.
Because u can give whole army groups an objective and then dispatch Corps or whatever and help the AI or concentrate on your personal part of the frontline if you want to.
One important thing is that if you give an objective to a level of command, the subordinate units cannot be commanded indvidually anymore unless you detach them or cancel your objective.
This is really interesting, and personally i will enjoy big fronts much more now.
Because u can give whole army groups an objective and then dispatch Corps or whatever and help the AI or concentrate on your personal part of the frontline if you want to.
One important thing is that if you give an objective to a level of command, the subordinate units cannot be commanded indvidually anymore unless you detach them or cancel your objective.
i think its gunna take us a while to work it out just about to fire up another game and see if the UK can invade ireland
I just played as the French. I did a naval invasion of Kiel, landed 15 divisions, and the Germans within a week or two just steam rolled my bridge head.
i imagine if specific objectives werent assigned and generals told their subordinates to "take poland", it would be a mess.
assign armys objectives. not army groups or theatres.
assign armys objectives. not army groups or theatres.
Worked good, giving thetere HQ objectives--i find it does better if you give it a ton of objectives, like all of polands provinces: this is for OKW in berlin