AI colonization logic.

[Arag]

In my current Kiche game it's past 1600 and save for the Spanish colonizing parts of Texas there hasn't been a single European nation in central America. After westernizing I've found out that Portugal has conquered the Carribean and that's it, there are some single province colonies in south America. The same happened in a previous 1.8 Ethiopia game, where Spain colonized Texas and Portugal went for Nicaragua around 1600.

What drives the AI to go this way? What makes the AI countries choose to colonize jungles and arid places instead of reenacting the conquest of Mexico? In my opinion this harms Spain more than it helps them, as they could easily conquer that piece of land with just one war.

 

[Pilon23]

I think they just colonize whichever province they get a mission for initially. Regardless if its tropical or temperate. I also noticed Portugal being obsessed with semi-high base tax provinces in tropical areas of Brazil. By 1600 they had just barely set up Portguese Brazil. Maybe there are other things screwing with AI colonizing since 1.8, I don't know.

 

[Arag]

I think they just colonize whichever province they get a mission for initially. Regardless if its tropical or temperate. I also noticed Portugal being obsessed with semi-high base tax provinces in tropical areas of Brazil. By 1600 they had just barely set up Portguese Brazil. Maybe there are other things screwing with AI colonizing since 1.8, I don't know.

A good observation, Spain gets missions to conquer central America. The only problems is that those missions are aimed at specific countries (Aztec and Zapotec) and those countries tend to disappear right now pretty quickly (in both cases Tlapanec and Tarascan roflstomped them).

PS: They also have a useless mission against the Inca Empire. Why useless? Because AI Cusco does not take the decision to form Inca.

 

[Umbosch]

In my current Kiche game it's past 1600 and save for the Spanish colonizing parts of Texas there hasn't been a single European nation in central America. After westernizing I've found out that Portugal has conquered the Carribean and that's it, there are some single province colonies in south America. The same happened in a previous 1.8 Ethiopia game, where Spain colonized Texas and Portugal went for Nicaragua around 1600.

What drives the AI to go this way? What makes the AI countries choose to colonize jungles and arid places instead of reenacting the conquest of Mexico? In my opinion this harms Spain more than it helps them, as they could easily conquer that piece of land with just one war.

Most time your world looks how my own as Huron. Spain and Portugal come 1545 through the Caribean. 1570 French (Bretange), Holland, Norway and England landing in the Canada region. Some times Portual or Spain too. At this time Meso America nations go down through England, Spain and Portugal. Most time only Xiu survive. At this time colonize of Panamaregion begins. No panice mexico- and carolinaregion will start at 1600 too. Here is a image from a old game. Have make it becouse of 0 0 0 heir. http://i.imgur.com/cdu5paO.jpg

Natives and most time europe nations colonize not the province with the highest taxes but the lowest aggressiveness. Only trade nodes, coasts or colonizemissions have some times more priority. Trade region of the home node can be important too for natives and CN. First come the aggressiveness and then the natives and taxes. Look where europe nations colonize first or give native gold for testing!

For some costline it is important which europe nations has war among each other and who win the war. Give it strong alliances (England with France is the hell) and personal unions. For me in NA is England the worst enemy. To 90% he stop colonize and attack instantly. And without border contact the game is over. Best change to surive is when England has war in Europe. The other europe nations are more friendly.

 

[knoddy]

I have been messing around with a Sunset Invasion run, it the early 1500s Spain and Portgual are messing about in the Carribean, but I went for a sail around brazil and they are not colonizing there (in fact they had no colonies on in Brazil at all that I could see). Nobody is in Canada yet, although given Portugal and Castile are diplo tech 9 I would say England would not be far off it.

 

[Umbosch]

I have been messing around with a Sunset Invasion run, it the early 1500s Spain and Portgual are messing about in the Carribean, but I went for a sail around brazil and they are not colonizing there (in fact they had no colonies on in Brazil at all that I could see). Nobody is in Canada yet, although given Portugal and Castile are diplo tech 9 I would say England would not be far off it.

Is it a converter game, a 1.8 beta save or have you choose at start: historical world: the new nations? In the most games nobody comes to Canada before 1570. With luck 1550/ 1560. When caribean is finish they go to america.

in fact they had no colonies on in Brazil at all that I could see

I believe that must be a colonize mission or conquered natives to push europe in this region. The colonize mission system in AoW is some times crazy. Have become colonize missions to Brazil or Argentinia as Huron.

 

[Mikalos]

it strikes me as somewhat poor to tell ujs when certain nations show up when your a widespread native power that controls most of the land

 

[Octavio]

I agree, important regions like Mexico or Peru get colonized a few decades "too late". Might have got something to do with the increased number of provinces.

 

[Oryxslayer]

Natives and most time europe nations colonize not the province with the highest taxes but the lowest aggressiveness. Only trade nodes, coasts or colonizemissions have some times more priority. Trade region of the home node can be important too for natives and CN. First come the aggressiveness and then the natives and taxes. Look where europe nations colonize first or give native gold for testing!

For some costline it is important which europe nations has war among each other and who win the war. Give it strong alliances (England with France is the hell) and personal unions. For me in NA is England the worst enemy. To 90% he stop colonize and attack instantly. And without border contact the game is over. Best change to survive is when England has war in Europe. The other europe nations are more friendly.

The two big factors however when concerning AI colonization are tropical/arid and base tax. The AI will always colonize a province with no negative modifiers over one with it. This is why in 1750, there are no euros in Indonesia while there is a colonial rush for base 1 taxes in Louisiana. The other thing is base tax. The AI goes for North america and Central America due to the base tax in said reason, when comparing it to say, canada or La plata.

Another big thing in the early game is that the AI prioritize colonization. What I mean is that an AI will colonize anything if it can. So if the AI doesn't know of any nonjungle/desert provinces, it will tie up a colonist for 30 years n that province, just because they couldn't see the temperate province next door.