AI ally has -109 opinion malus because they got a claim on one (1) province

[nobodyinparticular]

can anyone explain this garbage? I reloaded the save to see if they would come to their senses but they still hate me

 

[Damedius]

I think it's that EU4 is well past the end of it's life span and has been jury rigged to extend it because it was so financially successful.

They need to move on to EU5 and a new engine at this point. One capable of handling all the things they added to EU4.

 

[Thorum]

What's wrong with that? If, hypothetically, Ukraine wants to be allied to Russia, but Russia wants Donetsk, shouldn't there be a big malus? -109 isn't THAT unovercomable if you look at it that way.

 

[Nostalgium]

What's wrong with that? If, hypothetically, Ukraine wants to be allied to Russia, but Russia wants Donetsk, shouldn't there be a big malus? -109 isn't THAT unovercomable if you look at it that way.

I suppose the issue here is that the alliance was already in place, which makes it odd indeed. Especially for just one province, -109 is very high. ESPECIALLY for a province they haven't even marked as "vital" (red). Not insurmountable once you're well enough into the game, but this seems like it's very early - before big diplo modifiers from ideas or such can kick in.

@nobodyinparticular, consider selling them the province if you want to keep them as an ally. It's not ideal, but until Ottomans are dealt with, Hungary as an ally is worth more to you than Bosna as a province.

 

[Blust]

What's wrong with that? If, hypothetically, Ukraine wants to be allied to Russia, but Russia wants Donetsk, shouldn't there be a big malus? -109 isn't THAT unovercomable if you look at it that way.

Why are you making it "hypothetically" while there's a very real example in the screenshot though ? Especially when they're allies. -109 for one province is broken

 

[LordPavel]

Are you sure it is one province ?
They have a PU on croatia (?), and maybe their pupett want a bigger part. And the problem is not the -109, but the informations from the tip.

 

[nobodyinparticular]

I suppose the issue here is that the alliance was already in place, which makes it odd indeed. Especially for just one province, -109 is very high. ESPECIALLY for a province they haven't even marked as "vital" (red). Not insurmountable once you're well enough into the game, but this seems like it's very early - before big diplo modifiers from ideas or such can kick in.

@nobodyinparticular, consider selling them the province if you want to keep them as an ally. It's not ideal, but until Ottomans are dealt with, Hungary as an ally is worth more to you than Bosna as a province.

I just moved on as the Hungarians were stubborn, they got their alliance with Austria broken during the Burgundian conquest of Liege, so I pounced them, which worked well. At least my Serbia run isn't ruined. Austria and Muscovy are my big allies to deter an Ottoman attack.

Are you sure it is one province ?
They have a PU on croatia (?), and maybe their pupett want a bigger part. And the problem is not the -109, but the informations from the tip.

Didn't think to check Croatia's provinces of interest (and they're gone now as you can see) but that might have been it. Still seems ridiculous behaviour for allies.

 

[Jespoke]

It is a problem on this patch, overlords' opinion mallus against people that hold claims of their subjects is way too big for some reason. I had it as Florence: The Pope despised me because Peruga had a claim on me, then barely had a problem with me as soon as they integrated them.

 

[Nostalgium]

I just moved on as the Hungarians were stubborn, they got their alliance with Austria broken during the Burgundian conquest of Liege, so I pounced them, which worked well. At least my Serbia run isn't ruined. Austria and Muscovy are my big allies to deter an Ottoman attack.

Love to see it. It's always fun to completely ruin former allies who threw a good thing under the bus for no good reason. xD