AI allies allying your rivals and break your alliance

[bbqftw]

If this happens you picked your rivals wrong to be honest.

This typically comes up on situations where you're on very thin ice with your ally anyways e.g. you rivaled 1+ of their allies already, and now their new alliance gives you a big -100 or -150.

So you can pre empt these situations, its the drawback of picking powerful but unstable alliances

 

[Siu-King**]

If this happens you picked your rivals wrong to be honest.

This typically comes up on situations where you're on very thin ice with your ally anyways e.g. you rivaled 1+ of their allies already, and now their new alliance gives you a big -100 or -150.

So you can pre empt these situations, its the drawback of picking powerful but unstable alliances

Cant see into the future yo.
Who would have thought, (in this case) France, rivaled Castile, wanted Aragon (PU) lands, fought at least 2 times with them, and once Aragon broke free, which I rivaled, France turned friendly one day (despite a trust malus too) and proceed to ally them?

 

[Dominion]

tbf in that example you broke tributary status, and since you border the EoC and are not a tributary of course they're going to see all your land as vital interest.

Shouldn't switch to domineering if I'm four times their size though. But yes, it was a bad example. Only one I had on my hands at the time.

I had it with France as Switzerland and as Albania with Russia too though.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

You can get -200 WYSP from any colonizer if you hold land in either Mexico or Peru. Even at 100 trust. Doesn't matter who your mutual allies or rivals might be, doesn't matter if you have 100 favors on top of that 100 trust and have never encroached on their sphere.

WYSP can break any alliance on a whim if they want it enough, and even if you're quite strong the factors that scale on WYSP are different from WYP.

It's not a matter of picking rivals. If you have land colonizers might want in the new world, you can't expect to keep an alliance with them. Even if they have no colony withing 2 CN regions of that one. It doesn't matter.

Pretty shoddy implementation but that's how it is.

 

[bbqftw]

Cant see into the future yo.
Who would have thought, (in this case) France, rivaled Castile, wanted Aragon (PU) lands, fought at least 2 times with them, and once Aragon broke free, which I rivaled, France turned friendly one day (despite a trust malus too) and proceed to ally them?

you can guess the future, though.

its not like Aragon is a super weakling, and the AI does factor military power when evaluating friendly or not.

I'm not saying don't take the alliance, but it can still be a calculated risk

 

[Siu-King**]

you can guess the future, though.

its not like Aragon is a super weakling, and the AI does factor military power when evaluating friendly or not.

I'm not saying don't take the alliance, but it can still be a calculated risk

more like, didn't expect Aragon to break free