Playing an Austria game: Ragusa, Teutonic Order, Flanders, and East Frisia all joined the empire. It's very nice. When did this start happening?
AI adding provinces to the HRE
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It was a few updates ago. The requirements were eased to join - I think it is now 100 relations you need with the emperor, and them with you, to join or add provinces.
If a bordering non HRE AI nation feels threatened by another non HRE nation it may decide to join the empire. (if requirements are met aka not too big and lots of positive relations with emperor)
East Frisia often joins because it feels threatened by Denmark or Burgundy, and Flanders often joins because of France.
East Frisia often joins because it feels threatened by Denmark or Burgundy, and Flanders often joins because of France.
Yeah, I think Threatened is the key here (did the devs mention this?). Picardy joined and I wasn't allied with them but Savoy won't join because I am allied to them. Time to break that alliance and see if things change. Also, do AI nations change their capital to their default one anymore? I was trying to get some to join by changing it to a province in the HRE.
Best I'm aware Italians won't rejoin after they leave - the cost of being part of the HRE is then too prohibitive. You need to avoid the Shadow Empire event.
you can't manually move your capital into/out of the HRE.
When your current capital gets taken it moves to their highest dev province, so you need to fight 2 wars to get people to join the HRE
war 1, take capital, core it , add it to HRE, and then return it to him.
War 2, take his new capital, it will move his capital back to his old one, and then autojoin the HRE.
The other option is to make a province bordering him very high development, make sure it's in the HRE, and then sell it to him. Then his capital will move to that province after the first war.
Thats what I am using to deal with Burgundy if I play in HRE.
Playing as Austria I ally France, attack burgundy promising land to france. Then just give Bourgonge to France, this wil move Burgundy capital into France-comfe which is in HRE which makes Burgundy and all vassals in HRE.
France then cant eat any single Burgundy or England province, they dont cost IA, more princes=more passive IA.
And if then BI hits, I just take all the land.
Capital location needs to be state religion and primary culture regardless of development. Development is weighed in combination with location. The AI would rather move it to a lower dev province than to border a rival.
An important note - French minors (like Champagne) also join, if they border the HRE. So that's another way to eat France without stomach aches.
i'm talking about forced movement, not voluntary. When your capital is taken in a war your new capital goes to your highest effective development province (so a 40 dev province with 75% autonomy is only counted as a 10 dev province). Easiest way to watch this is when you're eating someone like the ottomans and take their capital every war. Doing this can force capitals into the HRE, or out of the HRE, unlike voluntary movement
I understand, and it's more complicated than highest dev. You're free to console test it yourself.