In total production, maybe. But they'd also be starting so far behind in tech and with such terrible infra that they still shouldn't be much of a factor unless they start in '36 as united.
Ah... Argentina
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In total production, maybe. But they'd also be starting so far behind in tech and with such terrible infra that they still shouldn't be much of a factor unless they start in '36 as united.
Venezuela has always been one of the largest producers in HOI series. Outside a few procinces around Texas, Ven had the highest. I think its around 122 in HOI3
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Venezuelan oil meant nothing if a blockade was in place, which would be easy to do even with the submarines both UK and US had. Who is going to escort the tankers?
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The Uboats could operate outside of LATAM if that's the case, doing heavy damage as well.
Who said anything about going to war with the Allies?
Joining the axis is not an option no, but that doesn't mean you cant expand a little. The key is to take advantage of that sweet black gold while avoiding war with the Allies.
First, I will use the oil money to modernise the military, ideally flirting with the axis and allies, playing them against each other in their petty bid for influence on my glorious country, in the hopes they lend me some military equipment in exchange for my 'loyalty'. Once the US joins the fight and gets their hands full fighting the axis, I will make my move. I will remain neutral, but I will demand and invade neighbouring states such as Colombia based off of some fabricated pretext. The US will be much to busy with the Axis to even consider playing Mr. policeman in this conflict, especially with my modernised military. Besides, I am not a direct threat to them so long as I keep the oil flowing, and they wouldn't dare want to disrupt that flow. Once there is a clear winning side, I will finish my expansion/liberation attempts and join said side, proclaiming myself as one of the 'good guys'. Viva Venezuela!
Of course, this could go horribly wrong and the US might attempt to export their so called democracy to me, and I have no idea how much of this is possible in game; but hey, you get the idea.
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Those greedy American pigs may love to export democracy, but they love even more to import that thick black gold! *evil dictator laugh*
Sounds like you need an EXTRA helping of democracy!*
*If it is advantageous we may export a dictatorship that is friendly instead of a democracy, if the democracy we export fails to be friendly to us we may repossess it without advance notice, no guarantees that democracy will be good for your country or your people, there is no warranty on the democracy that is provided, nor is there any money back guarantee, always vote responsibly.
*If it is advantageous we may export a dictatorship that is friendly instead of a democracy, if the democracy we export fails to be friendly to us we may repossess it without advance notice, no guarantees that democracy will be good for your country or your people, there is no warranty on the democracy that is provided, nor is there any money back guarantee, always vote responsibly.
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Great post OP!
The divisions between those who supported the allies and those how supported the axis where indeed great. there were newspapers that worked for both parties and wrote about the victories of the group they backed.
Argentina was indeed so germanofilic that we had the biggest nazi gathering outside of Europe.
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(if need be look for Luna Park Nazi gathering 1936)
The divisions between those who supported the allies and those how supported the axis where indeed great. there were newspapers that worked for both parties and wrote about the victories of the group they backed.
Argentina was indeed so germanofilic that we had the biggest nazi gathering outside of Europe.
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(if need be look for Luna Park Nazi gathering 1936)
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Im sorry, I lack the skills to do that, I just googled the Img.
Should I remove it?
Should I remove it?
Yes. It's an interesting picture though, it would be a shame to erase it. You could use paint to put a dogturd in front of it, which would be ideologically synonymous.
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Fascist Argentina vs. Communist Brazil is one of the fantasies I hope to play out in HOI4.
I'm no moderator, but there have been official warnings given for less obvious swastikas than that. Much as I hate to see history edited, it's probably a good idea to remove the link.
Well, ty all for the heads up, I just removed the image, better to be safe than sorry
That was quite interesting to read, I knew Argentina suffered internally, but I did not realize just how deeply divided Argentina was at the time. It rather reminds me of the Italian and Spanish situations in a way. It would be very interesting to see the possibility of an event or two that would enable it to take an ahistoric rout. At any rate I do hope that countries like Argentinian have flavor to them. It's a very different experience playing a major power that can single-handily write history and a smaller power that has to go-along with events or be very well-planned to survive, and without flavor in the way of events, research, units, or pictures, much of the cause to play more than a few of the smaller powers is lost.
One of my very best HOI experiences was playing Argentina and joining the axis. Unifying South America and Central america into a single nation and warring with the USA over central america and southern texas until the A Bombs started to drop...seriously so much fun! They are on the short list for countries I will play 1st in HOI4
Ah I know that feeling! It's glorious!
I did the same and experienced a similar story. There is something magical about facing daunting odds and just struggling to survive.
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