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You're being too hopeful, perhaps they've just improved the navy builder.

Secret Denmark expansion is already quite big, I don't think they had resources/time to implement significant changes to navy.

All i'm saying is that they may well have plans on the table for a Naval overhaul in the near future, but perhaps i am being too hopeful.
 

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Yeah, I utterly agree with the OP.

First, both naval and maritime ideas should be re-worked. Both are usually useless (unless player want to remain small country and have huge navy), so IMO they should not only boost the navy, but also economy, trade or even colonisation (just like aristocracy, which is not a pure military idea).
 

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There are no significant naval reworks planned for The Cossacks/1.14, but it's something we plan to look at in the future.
 
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IIRC, Wiz already had made a statement somewhere (maybe in one of the DDs?) that the Cossacks will be the last expansion so expect no more expansion after this.
 
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IIRC, Wiz already had made a statement somewhere (maybe in one of the DDs?) that the Cossacks will be the last expansion so expect no more expansion after this.

What? No, not at all.
 
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What? No, not at all.

Really? I was sure you did said that somewhere. Or maybe it was Johan? No idea, maybe I misread. Will have to dig around and see if I can find the quote lol.
 
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Really? I was sure you did said that somewhere. Or maybe it was Johan? No idea, maybe I misread. Will have to dig around and see if I can find the quote lol.

You're not referring to that statement made in reply to the guy asking for the next DLC to be free, right? Where there reply was "If [the Cosssacks] was free, it would be the last expansion of EU4" or something like that?
 
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You're not referring to that statement made in reply to the guy asking for the next DLC to be free, right? Where there reply was "If [the Cosssacks] was free, it would be the last expansion of EU4" or something like that?

That was it, more or less. Cossacks wasn't announced yet but he was basically pointing out that making it free would be ruinous to the project's continued existence. But last I checked, it isn't actually going to be free so that's not a real concern :p.
 
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If you could actively raid trade routes with war fleets then it would radically alter the need for navies in the game for coastal nations. If you could raid the trade of a country you are at war with by simply parking your navy close to their ports, then navies would become a drastically important part of the game for many nations (e.g. England, France, Spain, Portugal, many Mediterenian countries), and it would reflect why many of these nations needed such large navies in the first place, even though they weren't planning on invading people.

If trade were reworked such that there were actual "convoy fleets" moving around, that would make it even more important.

And either of these would make an important jumping off point for more development in naval play.
 
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There are no significant naval reworks planned for The Cossacks/1.14, but it's something we plan to look at in the future.

Awesome, looking forward to!
 

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Really? I was sure you did said that somewhere. Or maybe it was Johan? No idea, maybe I misread. Will have to dig around and see if I can find the quote lol.
you misread, just as I had. But I got it clarified from Wiz in a PM that it is not the case. It was in the thread where someone was asking for the expansion to be free.
 
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There is one specific naval improvement I would like to see.

I would like to see the AI stop suiciding its fleets when a large fleet blockading a harbour starts to move away.
I disagree
I like winning
 
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I disagree
I like winning
I disagree, but not because I like winning. Because ships sitting in a harbor is not a "safe zone" where other ships can't touch them. You should be able to storm the harbor and destroy the fleet, not sit in the sea waiting for them to be ready to attack you! Also, I wish you could take non-fort coast provinces with ships (with different ships needing different amounts like a blockade), as simply providing a siege bonus when navies destroyed towns in this time period feels really under-powering.

All this being said though, I don't want a ship expansion. I want an Africa expansion.
You know. To make things actually realistic.
 
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Well for harbors to be attackable by sea then some kind of Coastal Fort mechanic would be needed, I don´t really see a problem with that. Would also help with all the strait cheese.

And yeah ships need to be more valuable overall. As I mentioned in my previous post ships feel useless because there is nothing to fight over for in the sea and their support for land operations is really underwhelming.

Dunno about ships being able to take control of coastal provinces on their own, sounds like it would just be a micromanagement nightmare and doesn´t sound so realistic with the size of the provinces.

An Africa expansions would be cool, but why not both?