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After enjoing Reps and Tribes I started to dabble in Monarchies.

The Agnatic Seniority Succession Law seems to be the best pick for a Monarchy, but I found it next to impossible to enact it. The requierement for the ruler to have a brother and the current heir to not be of ruler family is kinda weird. Has anyone actually managed to enact this succession law at all?
 

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OKay, finally managed to enact this Agnatic Seniority Succession Law.

Emperors brother run with his banished wife to exile and the two emperors nephews who could possibly get into the line of succession were imprisoned. As the emperor had only a daugter, no ruling family members were in the succession line.

After the ASS law was enacted the sons of the imprisoned family members popped into succession. When their parents were pardoned from gaol they replaced their children in the line.

Wonder whether this is a WAD, as it involved a lot of really crazy moves to make this succesion law applicable.
 

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Though I've played a couple of interesting games with monarchies, I've never meddled too much with succession laws. In fact, I'm not sure that this law system is the best way to manage succession, gameplay and historical-wise.

What I've gathered from my readings about hellenistic kingdoms or other ancient monarchies, the election of a heir apparent was pretty much ad-hoc for each case, based in ambitions, pressure groups, personal loyalties, relations with other countries and king's will. Of course there was tradition, but circumstances and ultimately the king's will would have the last word. There was nothing close to the refined legislation of the middle ages, AFAIK.
 
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Though I've played a couple of interesting games with monarchies, I've never meddled too much with succession laws. In fact, I'm not sure that this law system is the best way to manage succession, gameplay and historical-wise.

What I've gathered from my readings about hellenistic kingdoms or other ancient monarchies, the election of a heir apparent was pretty much ad-hoc for each case, based in ambitions, pressure groups, personal loyalties, relations with other countries and king's will. Of course there was tradition, but circumstances and ultimately the king's will would have the last word. There was nothing close to the refined legislation of the middle ages, AFAIK.

Yes, IIRC the only really surefire way to get a specific person to be recognized as the only heir was for their predecessor to make them co-ruler in his lifetime. IIRC that was at least how the Seleucids managed their succession.