Aggressive Expansion from declaring war

[BaZERGer]

I think the numbers could use some adjusting, in the time the aggressive expansion has gone from 10 to 5 from being discovered while fabricating claims, this has remained unchanged, and has become an extreme value due to the increased scaling from the base.

 

[Zelius]

I think the numbers could use some adjusting, in the time the aggressive expansion has gone from 10 to 5 from being discovered while fabricating claims, this has remained unchanged, and has become an extreme value due to the increased scaling from the base.

What AE from declaring war are you talking about?

 

[BaZERGer]

No casus belli and breaking truce.

 

[Danfish77]

No casus belli and breaking truce.

Both of those acts should give you harsh AE modifiers. I'm fine where they stand.

 

[BaZERGer]

Both of those acts should give you harsh AE modifiers. I'm fine where they stand.

I disagree, getting 45-60 aggressive expansion with half the continent for declaring war without a casus belli is not in the range of sanity.

 

[grommile]

I disagree, getting 45-60 aggressive expansion with half the continent for declaring war without a casus belli is not in the range of sanity.

I'm pretty sure you only get that much if you're declaring on imperial german catholics as a blob in the 1.13 beta.

Or, I suppose, if you play on Hard - where AE is meant to be horrendous.

 

[BaZERGer]

The numbers are on the beta, but declaring on a member can go up to 90. On live they're slightly lower, but still generates 35-40 with eveything in the area when declaringon a non-members. 20 aggressive expansion is the same amount you get from taking 40-41 development without a having the proper casus belli for them, except this is gained just for declaring the war.

 

[Vaximillian]

It's not like fabricating a claim takes too long.

 

[lolada]

It does seem too excessive and harsh when breaking deals, i remember seeing the numbers and thinking "hey thats way too high" - especially its crap feeling when you accidentaly break a truce which happened to me a few times. Some balancing would be in order.

 

[BaZERGer]

It's not like fabricating a claim takes too long.

I know right? It's not like you there's ever cases where a nation wouldn't have any provinces they could realistically conquer next to them.

The amount outside of beta has been pretty consistant since it was changed to 20 though, effectively giving 40 aggressive expansion on declaring the war, and though i think that's still too high, it's not as insanly high, you don't risk a continental coalition just from the act of declaring war alone.