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I'm going to be scrapping my Modern Day mod for the most part, due to the porting of MDS2 it doesn't seem necessary at this current time. So I've taken the time to create a new mod, this mod being alternate history based mostly on a history where the shogun still rules Japan, and where the United States stayed neutral in foreign affairs (Mainly WW1).

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Timeline (Work in Progress):
1868: Boshin War begins between the Tokugawa Shogunate and the Imperial Court, the French intervene on Tokugawa's side
1869: Boshin War ends in a Tokugawa victory, and the shogun still reigns supreme in Japan.
1898: Spanish-American war doesn't happen, president William McKinley decides to stay out of Spain's colonial affairs, as a result, the Spanish still retain control over the Philippines, Cuba, and Puerto Rico. The Cuban revolts are put down by Spanish troops, and they retain control over Cuba with an iron fist.
1904: Russo-Japanese war doesn't happen, Japan stays out of mainland Asian affairs.
1914: Archduke Franz Ferdinand is assassinated in Sarajevo. World War I begins. Russia launches it's offensive into East Prussia, and is thrown back in a decisive defeat at the Battle of Tannenburg. Britain asks for Japanese intervention against Germany, but Japan refuses to intervene, which is very costly for Japanese-Entente relations.
1915: Trench warfare rages onward on the Western Front, Germany makes some gains but they are miniscule. Austria-Hungary and Germany make a push on the Eastern Front, taking control of most of Poland. The Brusilov offensive is thrown back, and the Russians are pushed back into Ukraine. Serbia is attacked by a combined German-Austrian-Bulgarian offensive and the Serbian army retreats to Albania. The Lusitania isn't sunk. Italy and Romania remain neutral. The British Raj revolts from the United Kingdom, and forms the Socialist Republic of India and the Kingdom of Burma. Receiving a large amount of support on the home-front, and supplies from the Central Powers, sent through Persia and Afghanistan, India and Burma manage to wage a successful colonial revolution against the United Kingdom.
1916: Battle of the Somme ends in a stalemate, with neither side making any decisive gains. Russian revolution begins, major armed revolts across Russia take place. Peace is signed with the Central Powers, which is given Poland (1936 borders) and the Baltic states. Indian revolution ends in an Indian-Burmese victory, and they successfully achieve independence. Bulgaria, with Central Powers support, successfully pressures Romania into giving up Dobruja.
1917: War rages indecisively onward on the Western Front, reinforcements brought in from the Eastern Front even make little impact on Germany's war effort.
1918: Germany's Spring Offensive is launched (Kaiserschlacht), and German forces almost reach Paris. The offensive is dubbed a success, but it has exhausted Germany's logistics and morale. Meanwhile, unrest in Poland causes Germany to grant them autonomy as a German puppet, due to their inability to deal with a revolt in this time. Unrest also tackles Austria-Hungary, and protests against the Austrian kaiser break out in Budapest and Prague.
1919: Trench warfare once again dominates the Western Front, neither side makes any gains this year. Unrest in Austria-Hungary spreads to it's South Slavic territory, and revolts break out in Serbia and Bosnia. The communist revolts in the Russian Empire loose steam and die down as Lenin is captured and publicly hanged. Trotsky, Stalin, and many other communist revolutionaries are imprisoned for their crimes. Civil War breaks out in Austria-Hungary. Romania crosses the Austrian border and takes over Bukovina, Austria doesn't need another war to worry about so they let Romania take the region.
1920: Peace talks for the Great War begin in Rotterdam, Holland. Britain and Germany agree upon a white peace for the Western Front, this enrages France as they gain nothing out of the war in Europe. Germany is to give over it's African colonies to the British and French, but is allowed to retain it's Asian and Pacific colonies. Poland becomes independent from Germany along with the Baltic states, Germany retains control over Memel and the Polish Corridor. An uneasy peace in Europe ensues. The Ottoman Empire loses control of Transjordan and Iraq, but is allowed to keep Syria-Lebanon. Romania attacks the newly formed Hungary in Transylvania, and leads a successful campaign.
1921: Treaty of Rotterdam is signed along the lines agreed the previous year. France and Russia, both disappointed from gaining little from the war, form a Coalition against any type of German expansion. Serbia becomes internationally recognized, but Bulgaria retains Macedonia, and Hungary retains Vojvodina. Romania signs a peace treaty with Hungary and manages to regain territory conquered the previous year. Parts of Transylvania which was inhabited by Hungarians, despite being conquered by Romania, remained under Hungarian control, as a result of the treaty.
1922: Russia, eager to retake territory lost in the great war, starts the Russo-Polish War. The Kingdom of Croats, Slovenes, and Serbs refuses union with Serbia under Yugoslavia. Slovenia is enraged by this failure and leaves union with Croatia, Bosnia does the same. Croatia later invades Slovenia and installs a puppet government. Bosnia avoids Croatian invasion by promising not to ally the Serbs. Civil War in Austria-Hungary ends. Austria and Hungary reform into seperate countries. With the pressure of Germany, Austria is allowed to retain Trento and the Sudetenland. Bohemia-Moravia and Slovakia become independent.
1924: Russo-Polish War ends in a Semi-Russian victory. Russia successfully takes over Eastern Poland and Eastern Galicia, but loses a large amount of troops in the process.
1925: Milan Nedic takes power in Serbia and establishes a Fascist Government. Ante Pavelic, a Croatian Nationalist and Fascist, takes power in Croatia and establishes the Independent State of Croatia, promising to take back Bosnia. Serbia's government promises to take over the rest of the Yugoslavs and establish a Fascist Yugoslavia.
1935: Revolt breaks out in Indochina against French rule.
1936: Unrest in Hungary starts to break out, the local Communists are causing dissent in Serbia and Hungary.

Here are the factions:

Central Powers: German Empire, Austria, Ottoman Empire
Allies: United Kingdom, Canada, South Africa
Coalition: France, Russia

The map is not completely finished, so bear with me, there have been a lot of last minute changes to the map and the Orders of Battle are not finished either. A lot of events are done though, with the help of 2 of my friends we have been cranking out events like madmen. Most of the events will be decision based except for a select few, giving the player the choice of choosing what he want's to do with his specific nation.

I was greatly inspired by the Kaiserreich and Bonaparte Legacy mods to start this project, so some influence in that respect will probably be noticeable. Let me know what you think :)

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russo-japanese war has no territorial effect on korea
that's the sino-japanese war

so what does it mean for MDS?
which one is yours?
 

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Interesting stuff you posted here! The storyline reads really nice, the one open question is: what happens to China/Japan?
 
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Seems like in this time line Japan is quite an isolated nation.Maybe they allied with France as with our time line would be.
Very interesting situation indeed.

Btw, what were happened in the Western Daimyos such as Satsuma and Choshu who participated in the pro-Court rebelion in the Boshin war.
 

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With no Russo-Japanese war Manchuria might be Russian. At least Port Arthur (unless they lost it in WW1)
 

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A few suggestions for the Hungarian borders.

Slovakia - if she was created by revolt or nationalist revolution (not on a peace confernce as was Czechslovakia IRL) I suggest giving Kosice and Komarno to Hungary. Presburg (Bratislava) should either be Austrian or Hungarian, but it had only a very little (~10%) Slovak minority about that time.

Romania - if you want to follow ethnic borders then you should give exchange Targu Mures for Turda since the Sekler province (Targu Mures) had almost no Romanian minority while Turda province was mostly Romanian. Arad province is either Romania or Hungary. The city of Arad was 2/3 Hungarian majority but land the province represents was 60% Romanian. Temesvár (Timisoara if I remember correctly) province can stay with Hungary though it had all kind of minorities you can find in Austria-Hungary (from largest to smallest: German, Romanian, Hungarian, Serb, Slovak, Czech, Croat).

Austria - without a peace confernce to decide new borders Burgenland province (I belive it's Eisenstadt ingame) should stay with Hungary. If there was any kind of agreement where the status of the province was decided then it is probably Austrian.

As of Germany you haven't wrote anything about the status of Esass-Lotharingen (Metz, Straßburg, Mülhausen) after the war.
 

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Seems like in this time line Japan is quite an isolated nation.Maybe they allied with France as with our time line would be.
Very interesting situation indeed.
As the map looks like, they obviosly went to war against China and took control of Taiwan. As France did the same, i guess they both fought a joint war. Also, it seems Russia lost the northern part of Sakhalin to Japan.
 

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Nice concept, I hope you'll get it working. Anyway, I'll make a few observations:

1915: Brusilov offensive is thrown back, and Romania becomes occupied by the Central Powers.
I don't think Romania would enter the war so early. IRL, Carol I, king of Romania, didn't enter the war at first, as he was of German origins. After his death in late 1914, he was succeeded by Ferdinand I, who was more willing to join the Entente, but who was expecting for a good moment, when victory would have been almost certain. However, as things were going in the wrong direction, Romania had to join the Entente in 1916. I find it more likely to follow the same approach.

1916: Russian revolution begins, major armed revolts across Russia take place. Peace is signed with the Central Powers, which is given Poland (1936 borders) and the Baltic states.
1920: Russia only gains Ruthenia from the war.
Why did Russia gain anything if they had signed peace? Also, I'm a little unsure of what you see as Ruthenia.

1922: Romania gains part of Transylvania back.
Why do they get parts of Transylvania back, is it a chain reaction starting with the Civil War in A-H? If so, I understand. However, you should give Miercurea Ciuc to Hungary, as they're ~90% Hungarians, and Turda to Romania.

Also, what's the story with Bucovina? Firstly I should tell you that it was never partitioned until the 1940 Soviet ultimatum given to Romania. Now, since it was part of Austria, who did they lose it to and under what circumstances? Thanks in advance for any of your answers. :)

Romania - if you want to follow ethnic borders then you should give exchange Targu Mures for Turda
You mean Miercurea Ciuc. Tg. Mures doesn't appear on the map.
 

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Interesting stuff you posted here! The storyline reads really nice, the one open question is: what happens to China/Japan?
What happens to China/Japan during the game? Well my friend ChippoTheHippo has been writing the event chains for Japan and he has some stuff planned for them.

Seems like in this time line Japan is quite an isolated nation.Maybe they allied with France as with our time line would be.
Very interesting situation indeed.

Btw, what were happened in the Western Daimyos such as Satsuma and Choshu who participated in the pro-Court rebelion in the Boshin war.
Well Japan is united, and the Tokugawa shogunate won the war so I'll probably go with they were occupied and later Tokugawa united Japan.

With no Russo-Japanese war Manchuria might be Russian. At least Port Arthur (unless they lost it in WW1)
Port Arthur (Hard to see) is controlled by Russia, I was on the fence about giving them Manchuria though, like I said, this is all work in progress so I might change the map up last minute.

A few suggestions for the Hungarian borders.

Slovakia - if she was created by revolt or nationalist revolution (not on a peace confernce as was Czechslovakia IRL) I suggest giving Kosice and Komarno to Hungary. Presburg (Bratislava) should either be Austrian or Hungarian, but it had only a very little (~10%) Slovak minority about that time.
Thank you for the suggestions, I will do that actually :)

Romania - if you want to follow ethnic borders then you should give exchange Targu Mures for Turda since the Sekler province (Targu Mures) had almost no Romanian minority while Turda province was mostly Romanian. Arad province is either Romania or Hungary. The city of Arad was 2/3 Hungarian majority but land the province represents was 60% Romanian.
I will give over Miercurea Ciuc to Hungary because it makes more sense, like you mentioned. I'll keep Arad under Hungary though.

Temesvár (Timisoara if I remember correctly) province can stay with Hungary though it had all kind of minorities you can find in Austria-Hungary (from largest to smallest: German, Romanian, Hungarian, Serb, Slovak, Czech, Croat).
Alright.

Austria - without a peace confernce to decide new borders Burgenland province (I belive it's Eisenstadt ingame) should stay with Hungary. If there was any kind of agreement where the status of the province was decided then it is probably Austrian.
Okay, I'll change that.

As of Germany you haven't wrote anything about the status of Esass-Lotharingen (Metz, Straßburg, Mülhausen) after the war.
The Western Front essentially ended in a white peace, so Germany was allowed to keep Elsass-Lothringen. Maybe I can include a referendum event in the timeline where France annexes the French majority parts? That would be Metz right? Strasbourg and Colmar would be German I assume. Alsace-Lorraine being France's Saarland, sounds like a good idea actually, but I imagine Germany wouldn't want to give up Alsace anytime soon :p

As the map looks like, they obviosly went to war against China and took control of Taiwan. As France did the same, i guess they both fought a joint war. Also, it seems Russia lost the northern part of Sakhalin to Japan.
I forgot to put that in the timeline as well -_- yeah that's what I had in mind. Joint French-Japanese war against China. As for Sakhalin, I'm still finding a clause for how Japan took the northern part of the island, I gave it to them because I thought the map would look better honestly lol.

Nice concept, I hope you'll get it working. Anyway, I'll make a few observations:
Thanks! :) I will listen to all suggestions I can!

I don't think Romania would enter the war so early. IRL, Carol I, king of Romania, didn't enter the war at first, as he was of German origins. After his death in late 1914, he was succeeded by Ferdinand I, who was more willing to join the Entente, but who was expecting for a good moment, when victory would have been almost certain. However, as things were going in the wrong direction, Romania had to join the Entente in 1916. I find it more likely to follow the same approach.
Would a Neutral Romania, or Central Powers Romania make any sense? I am open to any map or timeline changes you have in mind for that.

Why did Russia gain anything if they had signed peace? Also, I'm a little unsure of what you see as Ruthenia.
They took Eastern Galicia from Austria-Hungary as it was collapsing, that is how Poland took the western half of Galicia as well, I forgot to state that in the timeline :p
Ruthenia I see as Eastern Galicia, Lwow area basically, and Chust/Uzhorod. I assign the region that name because of another game I used to play a few years ago XD

Why do they get parts of Transylvania back, is it a chain reaction starting with the Civil War in A-H? If so, I understand. However, you should give Miercurea Ciuc to Hungary, as they're ~90% Hungarians, and Turda to Romania.
Yes they got it back because of the Civil War in Austria-Hungary.

Also, what's the story with Bucovina? Firstly I should tell you that it was never partitioned until the 1940 Soviet ultimatum given to Romania. Now, since it was part of Austria, who did they lose it to and under what circumstances? Thanks in advance for any of your answers. :)
In-game it's split between the provinces of Cernauti and Suceava. I gave the northern province, Cernauti to Russia as it is a part of the Bessarabia region, and gave the southern province, Suceava to Romania.

You mean Miercurea Ciuc. Tg. Mures doesn't appear on the map.
As for that, I might actually give it to Hungary, like you guys are suggesting.
 

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I gave the northern province, Cernauti to Russia as it is a part of the Bessarabia region
It is part of Bessarabia area only in-game . As you can see in this map Bessarabia does not include North Bukovina. The only reason Bukovina is split in two parts is the Soviets, who demanded North Bukovina from Romania in 1940 as a "compensation" for having had Bessarabia under control during the 1918-1940 period.
 

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Compared to the historical China, is this one much stronger as a united country?
 

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It is part of Bessarabia area only in-game . As you can see in this map Bessarabia does not include North Bukovina. The only reason Bukovina is split in two parts is the Soviets, who demanded North Bukovina from Romania in 1940 as a "compensation" for having had Bessarabia under control during the 1918-1940 period.
Actually, I don't mind changing Bukovina. I'll give Cernauti to Romania :)

Compared to the historical China, is this one much stronger as a united country?
I haven't changed their OOB yet, so they are as strong as Nationalist China is in 1936 at the moment. Once I am finished with them, I will try to make them stronger without unbalancing any Sino-Japanese war in their (Chinese) favor.
 

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IMO China in this scenario can be an important power as Germany may have a choice to ally with her against the Franco-Russian Coalition with the cost of returning Jiaozhou to China or extending the German-Chinese Co-operation as occurred in history.
 

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Updated Austria-Hungary Map, based on the suggestions I received. Also gave Tesin to Germany, to make the Sudetenland look better.

 
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IMO China in this scenario can be an important power as Germany may have a choice to ally with her against the Franco-Russian Coalition with the cost of returning Jiaozhou to China or extending the German-Chinese Co-operation as occurred in history.
I'll talk it over with Chippo since he's going to be focusing on most of the Asia events. I think it's a great idea to include some major German interaction with China :)
 

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Would a Neutral Romania, or Central Powers Romania make any sense? I am open to any map or timeline changes you have in mind for that.
With a wiped out Serbia in 1915 and a quickly falling Russia, joining the Entente would be suicidal. Joining the Central Powers is also out of the question, due to opposition of the people, as allying with A-H would have meant giving up any claims on Transylvania. So neutrality is the best option.

It would be interesting to see Bulgaria intimidating Romania with the help of the CP in order to gain Dobruja (this has to happen after Russia is out of the war, but before civil tensions in A-H). Also, I would suggest an alliance between Slovakia, Romania, Serbia and Greece against Hungary and Bulgaria (something similar to the Little Entente, except more offensive). This might actually be sparking tensions, which could lead to WWII. The Ottomans might stay out of this mess, support their former allies or maybe backstab them in order to gain some lost territories, Russia might support (or not) either of their Slavic brothers (depending on their interest) etc.
 
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Hungary is to big...if you want to follow ethnic lines, Transcarpathia should certainly go to ether Slovakia or Russia. Bratislava should stay with Slovakia, since most of the area was mostly inhabited by Slovaks, while the city was majorly Hungarian/German...that was the case in most AH cities. Only region Hungarians had majority was Miercurea Ciuc. Przemysl should go to Poles and Cernauti to Russians (i don't know why...just seems right :D ). Pola shoudn't be Croatian national territory since it had Slovenian/Italian majority. Same thing with Petrograd and Hungary. Maybe Dubrovnik to Bosnia or Serbia (due to it's isolation from the rest of Croatia). Also, Bulgaria shouldn't have cores on Tetovo, and Pirot shouldn't be in Bulgaria (at least not core)...
 

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Where are the alliances ideologically? How is WWII going to break out? You mentioned that Communists take over India, were there any revolutions anywhere else? Also, I agree with CocoBZ that Russia shouldn't gain any territory if it made a seperate peace. Switch around the history so Russia just gets Ruthenia after the war, maybe at the same time as the Russo-Polish war.