Age of reformation? what reformation?

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That's weird indeed.
Protestant got wrecked by me killing all the protestants, reformed spawned in france but didn't make a CoR for some reason, and then france converted it back to catholic and no one else converted to reformed (probably because the protestants were dead).

Note that all three protestant nations are free cities that i'm not allowed to attack directly
 

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Having the same problem in my game. Reformation started very meekly, no icons showed up on the map for center of reformation or conversion at all.

Then I went and converted to reformed. Still nothing. This is my first game after downloading Japan. Heck, a lot of HRE things are screwed up in this file right now.
 

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I don't know if this changed in 1.23 or 1.24, but I noticed that in the religion conversion window it says that converting to the religion "may" spawn a center of reformation. It use to be guaranteed that the first 2 nations after the initial CoR spawned would get one 100% of the time. It also seems like the usual suspects that would also convert to Protestant or Reformed ( ie Bohemia, Saxony, Brandenburg, England, Switzerland, Scotland) now only do so after having a majority of their provinces are converted by a CoR. In my Saxony game after 1.24, I spread the Protestant faith mostly through war. After the initial Reformed CoR popped in Lubeck, who was already Protestant, Lubeck was somehow able to convert the province back to Protestant before the CoR was able to convert its second province. I never noticed them being attacked or besieged by rebels, so not sure how they converted back so fast. So Reformed died almost right away.
 

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I've encountered very weak (but not so weak as above) reformation in my 1.22 and 1.23 campaigns. My bet is that something has changed before and 1.24 may have added something more. Playing with no mods, all DLCs (excluding flavor).

Haven't encountered anything in changelogs, but they are long and maybe missed something ;). Anyone knows if reformation mechanics were modified recently?
 

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I got a similar result.
I started as Brandenburg and prepared every to form Prussia. Before the beginning of the Reformation I fought a war with Bohemia... and suprisingly Bohemia was the starting point of the Reformation during a war. So Bohemia got two protestant provinces with catholic strips over them. So catholic is still the state religion and after the war nothing is happening. So I started to convert. I got two portestant provinces too (Berlin-capital; Wittenberg-probably CoR). But there is neither a CoR nor does anyone else want to join the protestants (after 10 years into Reformation)
I send a support letter with a save and maybe they find the bug :/ Now I try to get a Reformation without my intervention (maybe a Colo-Castile-Game)

EDIT: current version 24.1; last version where everthing is fine 23.x
 
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Same here, Up to date with every DLCs in my austrian campaign : only 1 protestant CoR formed and was force converted back to catholic by an angry France after a few conversions without consequences, then 1 province (I don't remember to have seen a CoR) turned reformed, and then ... nothing. Full catholicism-yellow everywhere in europe for the rest of the campaign. I even been able to revoke by 1550s or 1560s ... I guess it's a call for a one faith try :)
 

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I'm seeing pretty pathetic reformations too. 2 games in this patch and very few are converting. Scandinavia in particular seems to nearly never convert anymore.
 

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Protestant got wrecked by me killing all the protestants, reformed spawned in france but didn't make a CoR for some reason, and then france converted it back to catholic and no one else converted to reformed (probably because the protestants were dead).

Note that all three protestant nations are free cities that i'm not allowed to attack directly
I think showing the political map also would make it clearer.
 

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The CoR not spawning is likely due to target being at war. I put a suggestion to add a "at war" flag check on the event.

The province religion will change but it will not spawn a CoR
 

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Catholicism seems to dominate in 90% of games in my experience... a bunch of OPMs convert, start the Protestant league, get wiped out. A centre of reformation in a hre opm doesn't seem to convert much land except its immediate surroundings...
 

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Also noticing very weak reformations lately. I also am not sure what just happened in my game. The reformed faith spawned in Paris, France (See the event log for "The Reformation Branches Out" coming from France), but while Paris became reformed, no center of reformation was spawned and France was immediately able to just start converting it back. Their missionary had ~4.5% monthly progress.

https://i.imgur.com/w2VDieL.jpg
 

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In my current game as Prussia, reformation started normally but strangely Austria went with the Protestant League and lost. (Gelre remained Catholic Emperor). And then dozens of wars with heresy cb. Defenders of Catholic faith (France, Britain, and Netherland) are actually playing more active role than the HRE emperor.