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Originally posted by HolisticGod
Devil,

What Hive said, but I'll gladly give up all the cores but Greece if it means Arab and Turkish culture.

And if I'm losing Hungary and the Balkans, I ought to, at the very least, get Turkish... Unless you just want to give the game to Slarg or Damo, that is. :D

Don't think I am giving the game to slarg or damo, not to forget tonio. But you will receive a whole lot of MP, so I won't change your tech group, nor will I add any more cultures. And losing cores on hungary, so what croatia got them anyway....

btw.. post your ICQ.
 
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Devil,

I don't recall asking for a tech group change.

However, Byzantium will not have very high MP viz stab costs, BB et al without either Turkish or Arabic. I have a lot to convert and a lot of enemies.
 

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Croatia have Hungarian cores too now? I really think you should scrap Croatia and give Byz their cores back... bring in Norway instead...
 

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Originally posted by HolisticGod
Devil,

I don't recall asking for a tech group change.

However, Byzantium will not have very high MP viz stab costs, BB et al without either Turkish or Arabic. I have a lot to convert and a lot of enemies.

Sry that was Hive, you where just reffering to him.

Now I am not saying it should be impossible for you, nor do is wish you to get annexed by OE. But as I see it, you can annex athens fast.

Regarding conversion, all greek and romanian provs including smyrna and anatolia are orthodox.

Also I am willing to give you back cores on serbia and kosovo, and lets say 200 ducats. That should be enough to kick OE, or at least win some provs in first war.
 

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Originally posted by Hive
Croatia have Hungarian cores too now? I really think you should scrap Croatia and give Byz their cores back... bring in Norway instead...

I am not scrapping a nice nation, just based on the fact you think byzantium should have all OE cores. They already received romanian culture and only lost 20 cores, they will never conquer.

Every nations has received more cores since BB will be an issue, if anyone has a better suggestion feel free to speak :)
 

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Originally posted by devil
I am not scrapping a nice nation, just based on the fact you think byzantium should have all OE cores. They already received romanian culture and only lost 20 cores, they will never conquer.

Every nations has received more cores since BB will be an issue, if anyone has a better suggestion feel free to speak :)

Very well. I shall stop bitching and trust that you made a good decision then. ;)
 

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Devil,

Yes, sadly enough the only provinces I won't need to convert are the only provinces with my culture.

I'll forego the money and I'll forego all cores but the Greek culture and I'll forego Romanian if I can just get Turkish or Arabic and Kurdish.
 

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I don't see why Byz couldn't have turkish.. or some more turkish provinces be changed to greek...

Granted, he doesn't have to compete with anyone but the AI over the provinces, which should be a consideration aswell..

French: 3 contenders
Iberian: 2
German: 2-3?
Italian: 2
Greek/Turkish: 1
 

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Slarg,

By all means, add a human competitor.

It should also be noted, though, that the AI I'm fighting is specifically programmed to kill me.
 

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Originally posted by HolisticGod
It should also be noted, though, that the AI I'm fighting is specifically programed to kill me.

Programmed to kill you? Is OE really Skynet in disguise?:eek:



(sorry, just watched T3 yesterday :D)
 

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Originally posted by KaiserGab
for this game, what about these rules to avoid huge and blocked alliances and gangbangs?

1) 3 provs max for alliance in a war
2) each alliance can't have more than 3 countries

Would this be valid for player nations only, or for ai as well?

I can live with it anyhoop.
 

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Unfortunately :( , all of a sudden have got a lot of work
to do. Sorry guys, I am not sure I can play every Monday.
At least, I definitely cannot play on the nearest Mon.
I think you have enough time to finda another player
for TO.

But I would be glad to join your campaign from time
to time to replace a missing player, if you dont mind it.:)
 

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Kaiser,

Second rule is fine.

I strongly object to the first.
 

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Originally posted by HolisticGod
Devil,

Yes, sadly enough the only provinces I won't need to convert are the only provinces with my culture.

I'll forego the money and I'll forego all cores but the Greek culture and I'll forego Romanian if I can just get Turkish or Arabic and Kurdish.

HG,

please provide your ICQ or add me so we can discuss it :)
 

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Originally posted by Terminator
Unfortunately :( , all of a sudden have got a lot of work
to do. Sorry guys, I am not sure I can play every Monday.
At least, I definitely cannot play on the nearest Mon.
I think you have enough time to finda another player
for TO.

But I would be glad to join your campaign from time
to time to replace a missing player, if you dont mind it.:)

I am sorry to hear this, and I really would have liked to know this a bit sooner. Well done is done

I have signed frederik to play bavaria instead :D
 
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Originally posted by HolisticGod
Kaiser,

Second rule is fine.

I strongly object to the first.

well, it was just a proposal (and i meant it only for player..free raping AI :D ).

I still think 1st rule would mean less gangbangs and player's nations total raping(which could be fun in theory but look at what happened in fantasia..after 2 session we ended up playing in 5...:confused: ).

Actually, i don't care if we don't use that rules, but i would prefer to see this game going on and not losing players at each session. Cause let's say frankly: 2 players out of 3 won't stand a gangbang/partition as it happened in Fanatsia.

In a normal game this is someway a minor issue since all nations are big and some historical behaviour is present sometimes. in a minor game where we start with 1 provinces each it's another issue
 
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Originally posted by KaiserGab
well, it was just a proposal (and i meant it only for player..free raping AI :D ).

I still think 1st rule would mean less gangbangs and player's nations total raping(which could be fun in theory but look at what happened in fantasia..after 2 session we ended up playing in 5...:confused: ).

Actually, i don't care if we don't use that rules, but i would prefer to see this game going on and not losing players at each session. Cause let's say frankly: 2 players our of 3 won't stand a gangbang/partition as it happened in Fanatsia.

In a normal game this is someway a minor issue since all nations are big and some historical behaviour is present sometimes. in a minor game where we start with 1 provinces each it's another issue

I agree with kaiser I like both rules, now this is only regarding players wars of course :)
 

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same here, agree with both Kaiser`s rules