Vile treacherous Judas
- Nov 7, 2001
Like the Thirty Years War, the War of Spanish Succession is quite a letdown right now in EU2, and as a complex international conflict, it makes sense to discuss suggestions on improving its representation in a separate thread. The goal of this is obviously to work out an entirely new sophisticated sequence, but for now, I'll just throw in some random ideas of mine:
- It might be interesting to have an option that has Joseph Ferdinand of Bavaria survive and rise to the Spanish throne, vassalizing a small Bavaria to Spain (a big Bavaria with more than say 5 provinces might get Spain as vassal) and putting the First Partition Treaty of 1698 into effect, i.e. France gets Naples, Sicily and Sardinia and Austria Lombardia. This would basically avoid the war.
- Also, I think that Austria should have a choice to accept the Second Partition Treaty - that France, England and the Netherlands had already agreed on in 1700 and was rejected by Leopold because he wanted the whole inheritance for his son. By virtue of this, Charles would have become King of Spain in exchange for France getting Spain's Italian possessions.
- Only if none of the two above ahistorical choices has been made, Spain gets the historical Death of Carlos event in 1700, choosing between a Bourbon, Hapsburg and possibly a Wittelsbach (would there have been any chance of Max Emanuel himself becoming King of Spain?)heir - otherwise the respective partition is put into effect
- After Philipp of Bourbon has ascended the Spanish throne, France can decide whether it pushes for unification of France and Spain by appointing Philipp Dauphin or accepts the division of the succession to the French and Spanish throne. Only pushing for unification would cause the huge war of succession.
- Within the event sequence, there needs to be a distinction between the rival claimants to the Spanish throne, i.e. France and Austria, who will fight for the inheritance almost no matter what (except if both agree to some partition) and the rest of Europe, especially England and the Netherlands, that will only intervene if BoP is threatened.
- The conflict within Spain itself, between the supporters of Charles in Catalonia, Aragon and Valencia and those of Philipp in Castile, should be represented, either by massive revolts or by Catalonia (against Philipp) or Castile (against Charles) becoming independent. The revolting state would be reannexed as soon as there is a peace settlement.
- England, Austria and Savoy need to be encouraged in some way to go after their historical conquests
- Both Austria and France should, if their claim to the Spanish throne has prevailed, have an, albeit small, possibility to achieve a union with Spain, i.e. inherit it