There were still a few errors in my fix that I went back and corrected, by the way.wiande said:
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If we could have someone fix the grammar on these events, that might be beneficial. 
I did on one set. I'll do the others when I have more time.Garbon said:If we could have someone fix the grammar on these events, that might be beneficial.
Done with corrections made by Pellucid and me:wiande said:soeeyit's i_mpossible to me
EVENTNAME298000;Political Refugees;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298000;When Constantinople fell, it spelt the end of the Byzantine Empire. In fear of what would happen to them if they stayed, many left the city and settled elsewhere, including a large group who fled to Trebizond.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298000A;Welcome them!;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298001;The murder of Alexis IV;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298001;In 1429, Ioannes IV Kommenos is enthroned after murdering Alexis IV, his father. He successfully resists assaults from his geographic neighbourghood, most notably one by Murad II in 1442.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298001A;We cannot save him!;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298003;The royal marriage with Ak Koyunlu;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298003;In 1456 Amaseia's Ottoman governor attacked Trebizond, but could not enter the city. Instead, he opted to take prisoners from the outskirts and demand a large tribute from the emperor. Ioannes IV attempted to make an alliance with the Khan of the White Sheep, Uzun Hasan. In an attempt to legitimize the gesture, he offered Uzun his daughter's hand in marriage. In exchange, the Khan agreed to defend Trebizond with all his men and resources.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298003A;We have no choice, we need allies!;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298003B;No daughter of mine will be sold off to the Khan!;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298004;The royal marriage with Ak Koyunlu;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298004;The Khan refuses the alliance. What now?
ACTIONNAME298004A;There's nothing I can do;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298004B;Revenge is a dish best served cold;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298004C;Forgive and forget;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298005;Look West for our salvation;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298005;When Ioannes IV Kommenos died in 1458, his brother David takes the succession and immediatly contacts Philip the Good, King of Burgundy and Pope Pius II. Mehmet II could not afford to allow such an alliance to be concluded, and decided to finish off the Trebizond Empire. In June 1461, the Ottoman army attacked Sinope. Faced with the sheer size of the army standing against him, David capitulated on the 15th of August 1461.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298005A;Look westward for assistance;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298005B;Don't upset our neighbors;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298006;Troops from the West;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298006;Your Highness, leaders from the West sent us troops.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298006A;Welcome them!;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298007;Gold from the West;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298007;Your Highness, leaders from the west sent us gold.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298007A;Every coin is good to take;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298008;Troops and gold from the West;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298008";Your Highness, leaders from the west sent us troops and gold.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298008A;With that, we can resist Ottomans a little longer;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME298009;The submission of Trebizond;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST298009;During the siege of Trebizond by Turkish troops, Dauid II Kommenos submitted to Ottomans.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298009A;The fight is useless (End Game);;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME298009B;We won't give up the fight;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME103013;Ioannes IV offers us his daughter;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST103013;In 1456, Ottoman governor of Amaseia launched an assault against Trebizond. He did not succeed in taking the city, just took lots of prisoners and asked the emperor for a heavy tribute. Ioannes IV tried to enter an alliance with the Khan of the White Sheep, Usun Hasan, and offered him the hand of his daughter. In exchange, the Khan agreed in personally protecting Trebizond with 'all his men and all his resources'.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME103013A;Accept her and protect our new friends;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME103013B;Nevermind;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME137015;Trebizond seeks our help;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME137015A;We don't care about them;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME137015B;Help them by providing troops;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME137015C;Help them by providing gold;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME137015D;Do our best to help them;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME301040;Too much provocation from Trebizond;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST301040;Empire of Trebizond is seeking help from Burgundy and Papal States. What shall we do?;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301040A;Crush them;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301040B;Forgive and forget;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME301041;Trebizond's submission;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST301041;Empire of Trebizond is submitting to us.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301041A;They're now part of our great empire;;;;;;;;;;
Modified triggre for TRE_298005 "The Last Desperate Plea":
Code:
trigger = {
monarch = 0137502 #Dauid II Kommenos
[COLOR=Yellow]NOT = {
alliance = { country = TUR country = TRE }
vassal = { country = TUR country = TRE }
vassal = { country = TRE country = TUR }
}[/COLOR]
}I added a separate set of events for BUR and PAP for help of the West (an event can't fire twice) even if odds are really tiny.
YodaMaster said:
Perhaps also a size trigger? This event does't really make sense for large TRE either (not that likely, but similar triggers are also added in the absorption of the Ghazi states iirc)
yeah why not,
this is not a big deal 5 provinces, i've never seen TRE with more than 3 provinces so, you can add that trigger surely ;-)
this is not a big deal 5 provinces, i've never seen TRE with more than 3 provinces so, you can add that trigger surely ;-)
I suggest to rename "Political Refugees" to "Byzantines refugees" to match VEN_326015.
Modified trigger (again) for TRE_298005 "The Last Desperate Plea":
Otherwise, OE will "inherit" Trebizond without any border... It can happen if OE doesn't own Angora anymore and Candar still alive for example.
Code:
trigger = {
monarch = 0137502 #Dauid II Kommenos
NOT = {
alliance = { country = TUR country = TRE }
vassal = { country = TUR country = TRE }
vassal = { country = TRE country = TUR }
countrysize = 5
}
[COLOR=Yellow]neighbour = TUR[/COLOR]
}
Restoration of Byzanz events
Both Serbia and Trebizond have events that let them "restore the Roman empire". However there are distinct differences that I don´t understand.
Serbia for example can claim greek culture and the cores of Byzanz even before they own Thrace (event 80327 choice B) and later in event 80328 then they decide if they want to restore the empire or to stay a great serbia with byzantian cores.
Trebizond has no event to gain cores when Byzanz falls and when they manage to get Thrace province, then they can A) become Byzanz or B) stay Trebizond.
Why does Trebizond not get the Byzantian cores if Trebizond stays Trebizond and why does it get them only after taking Thrace unlike Serbia? If non-greek Serbia can do that, then why can´t they?
Why does Trebizond become Byzanz
"command = { type = country which = BYZ }"
when chosing to restore the roman empire, but Serbia does not?
Both Serbia and Trebizond have events that let them "restore the Roman empire". However there are distinct differences that I don´t understand.
Serbia for example can claim greek culture and the cores of Byzanz even before they own Thrace (event 80327 choice B) and later in event 80328 then they decide if they want to restore the empire or to stay a great serbia with byzantian cores.
Trebizond has no event to gain cores when Byzanz falls and when they manage to get Thrace province, then they can A) become Byzanz or B) stay Trebizond.
Why does Trebizond not get the Byzantian cores if Trebizond stays Trebizond and why does it get them only after taking Thrace unlike Serbia? If non-greek Serbia can do that, then why can´t they?
Why does Trebizond become Byzanz
"command = { type = country which = BYZ }"
when chosing to restore the roman empire, but Serbia does not?
YodaMaster said:
I find it also strange, that Byzanz should have some complicated events involving revoltrisk to gain slavonic culture, when Serbia simply can gain greek culture and all byzantian cores immediately when the Osmans conquer Byzanz. Trebizond has only the "Restore Byzantium" event - should a "Fall of Constantinople" event be added similar to the serbian one, or should in the Trebizond restoration event simply the byzantian cores be added?
Suggested changes:
Code:
#Fall of Constantinople, the Serbian reaction#
#MKJ(?)
event = {
id = 80327
trigger = { event = 3353 }
random = no
country = SER
name = "EVENTNAME80327" #The Fall of Constantinople
desc = "EVENTHIST80327"
#-#The Ottoman Empire has taken Constantinople. We are now one of the last vestiges of the Roman Empire left. How shall we respond?
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 10
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1491 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME80327A" #Let the Roman Empire rest in peace at last
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 100 }
[color=yellow]command = { type = relation which = TRE value = 10 } #Trebizond content that the serbians don´t claim THEIR byzantine throne
command = { type = sleepevent which = 80328} #SER: Restoration of the empire[/color]
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME80327B" #We must become the new Roman Empire!
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -200 }
[color=yellow]command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -10 } #The pope does not need another emperor and certainly not an orthodox one[/color]
[color=red]command = { type = add_countryculture which = greek } #they should gain greek culture only after they have taken the lands from the Ottomans[/color]
command = { type = addcore which = 320 } #Dobrudja
command = { type = addcore which = 321 } #Rumelia
command = { type = addcore which = 355 } #Serbia
command = { type = addcore which = 356 } #Bulgaria
command = { type = addcore which = 357 } #Thrace
command = { type = addcore which = 358 } #Macedonia
command = { type = addcore which = 359 } #Hellas
command = { type = addcore which = 360 } #Morea
command = { type = addcore which = 361 } #Albania
command = { type = addcore which = 362 } #Ragusa
command = { type = addcore which = 363 } #Kosovo
command = { type = addcore which = 479 } #Ionia
command = { type = addcore which = 480 } #Crete
command = { type = addcore which = 481 } #Rhodes
command = { type = addcore which = 484 } #Cyprus
command = { type = addcore which = 820 } #Corfu
}
}
#Restore Byzantium#
#MKJ(?)
event = {
id = 80328
trigger = {
owned = { province = 357 data = -1 } #Constantinople
[color=yellow]control = { province = 357 data = -1 }[/color]
religion = orthodox
NOT = { exists = BYZ }
atwar = no
}
random = no
country = SER
name = "EVENTNAME80328" #Restoration of the Roman Empire
desc = "EVENTHIST80328"
#-#After the fall of Constantinople, Serbia declared itself the successor of the Roman Empire, and led the charge against the Turks. Eventually victorious, the opportunity arose to restore the Empire.
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { year = 1820 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME80328A" #Restore the Roman Empire in Constantinople
command = { type = capital which = 357 } #Thrace
command = { type = conversion which = 357 } #Thrace
command = { type = provinceculture which = 357 value = greek } #Thrace
[color=yellow]command = { type = remove_countryculture which = slavonic}[/color]
command = { type = add_countryculture which = greek }
command = { type = add_countryculture which = slavonic }
command = { type = conversion which = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = -1 }
command = { type = missionaries value = 3 }
command = { type = diplomats value = 2 }
command = { type = merchants value = 2 }
[color=yellow]command = { type = flagname which = "" }
command = { type = country which = BYZ }[/color]
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME80328B" #Let Belgrade Remain the Capital of a New Empire
command = { type = conversion which = 357 } #Thrace
command = { type = provinceculture which = 357 value = greek } #Thrace
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 2 }
command = { type = population which = 361 value = 30000 } #Albania
command = { type = missionaries value = 3 }
command = { type = merchants value = 2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 361 value = 3 } #Albania
command = { type = provincetax which = 357 value = -2 } #Thrace
[color=yellow]command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 4 } #The greek population is pissed off, that the Serbians do not restore the roman empire[/color]
}
}
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To be more precise, Serbia should own and control Thrace even if not at war (ie. province not rebel controlled). It should be the case for all others countries able to reform Byzance.
There should be a flag set in the "b" choice in the first event, that is a required trigger for the second event. Otherwise you can let the roman empire rest, and then restore it.
I think it's ridiculous that Serbia would lose slavonic culture for any reason. "Well, the King moved, so we hate him now?"
Some countries just have more opportunity than others; Byzantium needs to go through hell to get Slavonic culture because it lost its ties to those people so long ago, whereas Serbia did not. Perhaps Serbia should have to go through hell to get Greek culture instead.
Some countries just have more opportunity than others; Byzantium needs to go through hell to get Slavonic culture because it lost its ties to those people so long ago, whereas Serbia did not. Perhaps Serbia should have to go through hell to get Greek culture instead.