AGCEEP: Kindoms of Italy and Germany

[Lord Finnish]

Hi all.
I was exploring options, and there was "Kindom of Germany" and "Kingdom of Italy". How i can play them? I set the options to ON, but i see no differences.
I would really want to play Germany without gaining 300 BB as branderburg when i conquer the area.

 

[rybka]

Hi all.
I was exploring options, and there was "Kindom of Germany" and "Kingdom of Italy". How i can play them? I set the options to ON, but i see no differences.
I would really want to play Germany without gaining 300 BB as branderburg when i conquer the area.

afaik, you cant. you have to create them while playiyng some german/north italy country (see on agceep website to see which ones)

 

[TheMantis]

It's actually very easy to get the Kingdom of Germany formed with Brandenburg; I had to wait until the 1460s to get the Neumark acquisition event, but I was still able to forcevassalize or diplovassalize all of the requisite electorate states (you only need 3 of the remaining 4 if you are one of the 5) by 1454. After that it's just a matter of diploannexing a couple of minors in order to get your 6 provincces (Stettin, Pomerania, and Hessen or one of Saxony's provinces in a war--if you forcevassalized them--work nicely).

Take care against spamming Royal Marriages, however; you may need to use the Claim Throne option at least once in order to get the necessary Casus Belli's, and you're going to need to keep relations as high as possible with the German states in order to be elected emperor.

Hope this helped.

 

[Lord Finnish]

i try this soon as i can! tahnx!

 

[kolmy]

I don't agree that what TheMantis says about the Claim Throne option to get a Casus Belli. It breaks all other Royal Marriages you have. There's other ways to get CB's.

 

[TheMantis]

I don't agree that what TheMantis says about the Claim Throne option to get a Casus Belli. It breaks all other Royal Marriages you have. There's other ways to get CB's.

I didn't say you HAD to, I said to keep it in mind as a viable option. It results in a lot of minus relations for those you have Royal Marriages with, but keep in mind that with the annexing you have to do to get to 6 province size, you have to improve relations a lot already. Claim Throne is extremely useful if you have a situation like I did in my last Germany game in which Palatinate, Cologne, and Mainz were all in the same alliance. I was able to diplovassalize two of them and take Wurzburg off Palatinate (silly allies took the capital siege :[) in short order. Royal Marriages should not be used extensively until after you have all your vassalizations in order; it is not necessary to become emperor until the death of Austria's Friedrich V (in the 1490s), so the relation hit you take isn't a huge deal.

-Mantis