AGCEEP: Byzantine Empire Events Annex

[LlywelynII]

Edits

Ran the events until all of the id overlaps were removed and obvious errors corrected (ie. vassalization is { type = vassal which = TAG } not what I was doing .)

Added Russian, Spanish, Austrian, Papal events. (Bug checked)
Added preliminary English and French events. (Not bug checked/finalized)

For some reason, the Roman Empire event is buggy and causing CTDs within the month. The main line of events has no listed errors, but typically will CTD within a few years. Any help is greatly appreciated!

jay.

 

[|AXiN|]

Why would Gibbon criticise the Byzantines? IIRC one of his major points against the OR was that he felt the pinched all their good stuff from the Byzants

 

[LlywelynII]

Why would Gibbon criticise the Byzantines? IIRC one of his major points against the OR was that he felt the pinched all their good stuff from the Byzants

LOL I apprecitate your help with these events, so this is meant in all friendliness but you've obviously never read Gibbon. He largely blamed Christianity for the decline of the true Roman Empire so a defensive Christian Empire was always anathema to him. The last two books of the series are just an unending series of insults and he's a lot of the reason that Byzantium has had such a bad historical taste until the last few decades.

Although, yeah, he thought the Turks were savages.

My basic thought is if the parts of the Empire he most loathed were still around - the defensive and slavish aspects of it - he would write the same book he wrote in real life; whereas if the Empire reformed, so would his opinion of it.

jay.

 

[LlywelynII]

As of now, I know of no major errors or crashes with these events.

I don't know why the Emperor of the Romans event was causing such funky effects, but as long as the cb shields are handed out in two events, the system is perfectly stable. Does anyone know if there's just a maximum number of commands one can put in any given action selection? or if there's a limit on cb shields at a time?

Also, added deathdates to all events involving triggers, as this should make them, yknow, work.

Created a website http://www.geocities.com/jayspear/ to allow the events to be downloaded and used a little more easily.

jay.

 

[|AXiN|]

No offense taken, that's pretty funny.

 

[Hallsten]

LOL I apprecitate your help with these events, so this is meant in all friendliness but you've obviously never read Gibbon. He largely blamed Christianity for the decline of the true Roman Empire so a defensive Christian Empire was always anathema to him. The last two books of the series are just an unending series of insults and he's a lot of the reason that Byzantium has had such a bad historical taste until the last few decades.

Although, yeah, he thought the Turks were savages.

My basic thought is if the parts of the Empire he most loathed were still around - the defensive and slavish aspects of it - he would write the same book he wrote in real life; whereas if the Empire reformed, so would his opinion of it.

jay.

I just started reading Gibbon last week, is it worth continuing?

 

[Norrefeldt]

I just started reading Gibbon last week, is it worth continuing?

I found it old-fashioned and to much of vague reasoning about the decline of Roman moral as a reason for the decline of the Empire. To me, it said much more about the time it was written in than about the time it was written about. I stopped after a third of it.

 

[Hallsten]

I found it old-fashioned and to much of vague reasoning about the decline of Roman moral as a reason for the decline of the Empire. To me, it said much more about the time it was written in than about the time it was written about. I stopped after a third of it.

As far as I've understood it's supposed to be worth reading from a litterary point of view whereas the scientific value of the books is very slight.
I'll see if I can manage to plough though it, though.

 

[Norrefeldt]

I just knew it was famous and a standard work on the subject, so I got a bit disappointed. I plan to give it another try, some day. Good luck with it.

 

[LlywelynII]

I just started reading Gibbon last week, is it worth continuing?

There's a quote hanging around that Gibbon lived out his sexual life in his footnotes. It's great reading in the Grand Style, but yeah, it's just as moralistic and self-serving as the old historians whose works Gibbon used.

Not much use as history, but piecemeal, it can make a great read. Try the sections on Justinian, Irene and Zoe (Book 2?) if you want to get a sense of his hatred for the Byzantines.

jay.

 

[LlywelynII]

Well...

Is it a moral failing if I don't want to repost three pages of events every time I fix some code? I promise I'll get around to it - once all the events are well-tweaked and appropriate, it'll be useful to see if the events are appropriate and worthy of inclusion.

All the same, in the meantime, just download the newest event files from the site and feel free to note any oddities still occurring. There are currently at least three major event paths - one for fantasy Pagan BYZ, one for orthodox BYZ, and one for catholic BYZ.

My current game has been the fun pagan one - I love that Anatolia and the Balkans are a solid wall of ritual sacrifice and orgies , but the massive inflation and low INNOV are starting to get to me - I sacked Venice but couldn't end the war at all favorably because they're 8 army techs ahead and every time I assault Crete and Cyprus, I get my 40k ass handed back in hat form by 2 and 3k armies.

Anyway, I've noticed and fixed various problems with the prince events and the renaissance (ie, it should fire even if religion isn't ortho.) I just noticed that some of the Orthodox minor events (eg, Georgia and Nubia asking for help with their wars) aren't religion dependent, which they should be.

The next version will fix that, move the court composer random event into the 1600s where it belongs, correct the triggers on the Alexandrian thieves in the night event, and try to get rid of Venice's seaport. Can you *not* removebuilding shipyard?
jay.

 

[Hallsten]

There's a quote hanging around that Gibbon lived out his sexual life in his footnotes. It's great reading in the Grand Style, but yeah, it's just as moralistic and self-serving as the old historians whose works Gibbon used.

Not much use as history, but piecemeal, it can make a great read. Try the sections on Justinian, Irene and Zoe (Book 2?) if you want to get a sense of his hatred for the Byzantines.

jay.

aaah, sounds interesting...
I've heard that the siege and assault on Constantinople in 1453 is the best read in all the books.

Also, don't bother updating the forum all the time. Not that many browse through the entire thread eadch day anyway...

Why shouldn't you be able to remove a shipyard by event?

 

[LlywelynII]

aaah, sounds interesting...
I've heard that the siege and assault on Constantinople in 1453 is the best read in all the books.

I liked the stuff he cribbed off Procopius about Theodora's reenactment of "Leda and the Swan ... and the John ... and the Hockey Team" myself, but to each his own

Also, don't bother updating the forum all the time. Not that many browse through the entire thread eadch day anyway...

It's just a caveat to anyone who is coming through for the first time. I suppose I could have put it at the front end, but I was already here...

Why shouldn't you be able to remove a shipyard by event?

#Sack of Venice#
#to VEN file
event = {
id = 326033
random = NO
country = VEN
name = "Sack of Venice "
desc = "The iniquities of our fathers on the Fourth Crusade has been visited upon their children. The Greeks have taken the islands and are burning and looting everything they can find. There are rumors they have even sold some of our noble families into slavery to the Khan!"

action_a = {
name = "The pope will hear of this!"
command = { type = removecot which = 370 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 370 }
command = { type = fortress which = 370 value = -1}
command = { type = losebuilding which = 370 value = shipyard }
command = { type = population which = 370 value = -30000}
}
}

#Sack of Venice#
#to VEN file
event = {
id = 326034
random = NO
country = VEN
name = "Sack of Venice "
desc = "The iniquities of our fathers on the Fourth Crusade has been visited upon their children. The Greeks have taken the islands and are burning and looting everything they can find. They are selling our families into slavery to the Khan!"

action_a = {
name = "Heaven preserve us!"
command = { type = removecot which = 370 }
command = { type = losebuilding which = 370 value = barrack }
command = { type = losebuilding which = 370 value = shipyard }
command = { type = losebuilding which = 370 value = bailiff }
command = { type = losebuilding which = 370 value = courthouse }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 370 }
command = { type = fortress which = 370 value = -3 }
command = { type = population which = 370 value = -60000 }
}
}

The second event fired and the fortress, manufactory and COT disappeared, but the shipyard didn't. I double checked with Havard's guide and the syntax is correct. Don't get it...

jay.

 

[Hallsten]

The second event fired and the fortress, manufactory and COT disappeared, but the shipyard didn't. I double checked with Havard's guide and the syntax is correct. Don't get it...

jay.

Check the bugforum and see if it's known not to work and report it if it's unknown.
Also, try to make an event that only removes the shipyard to make sure it's nothing else that screws things up.

 

[LlywelynII]

BYZ HRE and Great Council events

As I've mentioned on another thread, I still haven't been able to debug the "Germany in Flames" event. I'm working on it, but don't use this event yet, as it will CTD:

event = {
id = 138902
trigger = {
emperor = yes
NOT = { event = 138901 }
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "Basileus tou Dytikou Romaikou Kratous" #Emperor of the Western Roman Empire; what's the German title?
desc = "Snubbing the overreaching Habsburgs in Vienna, the German princes have elected the Roman Basileus as the lord of the Holy Roman Empire as well! Although the entire month has been given over to celebration in Constantinople and the monks of Mt. Athos have finally given their blessing the submission to Rome, this is by no means the reunification of the Empire. The next emperor will have to win an election just as this one did, which is by no means assured.
Moreover, to gain the position, the Emperor had to bribe the electors lavishly and promise to support the independence of lands already annexed to Austria. And there was only one way that was going to happen..."
date = { year = 1419 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { year = 1820 }

action_a = {
name = "Heute das Welt, morgen der Sonansystem!" #Today, the world; tomorrow, the solar system!
command = { type = vp value = 100 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = aristocracy value = 1 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = HAB value = 600 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -400 }
command = { type = treasury value = -150 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138903
trigger = {
emperor = yes
event = 138901
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "Basileus tou Dytikou Romaikou Kratous" #what's the German title?
desc = "Snubbing the overreaching Habsburgs in Vienna, the German princes have elected the Roman Basileus as the lord of the Holy Roman Empire as well! As the Pope has already declared our lands reunited as the one empire, the question arises whether to honor our pledges to the German princelings to maintain their freedoms or whether to annex their lands into our Empire, consequences be damned."
date = { year = 1520 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { year = 1820 }

action_a = {
name = "The Barbaroi would only mean trouble"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "It's mine! ALL MINE!!!"
command = { type = inherit which = HAB }
command = { type = inherit which = BRA }
command = { type = inherit which = BRE }
command = { type = inherit which = KLE }
command = { type = inherit which = MEC }
command = { type = inherit which = PRU }
command = { type = inherit which = GEL }
command = { type = inherit which = KOL }
command = { type = inherit which = MUN }
command = { type = inherit which = SAC }
command = { type = inherit which = U16 }
command = { type = inherit which = FRI }
command = { type = inherit which = OLD }
command = { type = inherit which = SHL }
command = { type = inherit which = WUR }
command = { type = inherit which = HES }
command = { type = inherit which = HAN }
command = { type = inherit which = PFA }
command = { type = inherit which = POM }
command = { type = inherit which = STT }
command = { type = inherit which = STR }
command = { type = inherit which = BAY }
command = { type = inherit which = TYR }
command = { type = inherit which = SEI }
command = { type = inherit which = MAI }
command = { type = inherit which = LUX }
command = { type = inherit which = BOH }
command = { type = inherit which = LOR }
command = { type = trigger which = 138904 }
}
#This event commented out until 138904 can be made to fire properly
}

event = {
id = 138904
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "Germany in Flames!"
desc = "Although we have declared ourselves Emperor over Germany, the Germans themselves feel rather differently and have revolted under their numerous lords and princelings. We no longer control a scrap of German land!"

action_a = {
name = "I knew it was too good to be true..."
command = { type = independence which = HAB }
command = { type = independence which = BRA }
command = { type = independence which = BRE }
command = { type = independence which = KLE }
command = { type = independence which = MEC }
command = { type = independence which = PRU }
command = { type = independence which = GEL }
command = { type = independence which = KOL }
command = { type = independence which = MUN }
command = { type = independence which = SAC }
command = { type = independence which = U16 }
command = { type = independence which = FRI }
command = { type = independence which = OLD }
command = { type = independence which = SHL }
command = { type = independence which = WUR }
command = { type = independence which = HES }
command = { type = independence which = HAN }
command = { type = independence which = PFA }
command = { type = independence which = POM }
command = { type = independence which = STT }
command = { type = independence which = STR }
command = { type = independence which = BAY }
command = { type = independence which = TYR }
command = { type = independence which = SEI }
command = { type = independence which = MAI }
command = { type = independence which = LUX }
command = { type = independence which = BOH }
command = { type = independence which = LOR }
command = { type = breakvassal which = HAB }
command = { type = breakvassal which = BRA }
command = { type = breakvassal which = BRE }
command = { type = breakvassal which = KLE }
command = { type = breakvassal which = MEC }
command = { type = breakvassal which = PRU }
command = { type = breakvassal which = GEL }
command = { type = breakvassal which = KOL }
command = { type = breakvassal which = MUN }
command = { type = breakvassal which = SAC }
command = { type = breakvassal which = U16 }
command = { type = breakvassal which = FRI }
command = { type = breakvassal which = OLD }
command = { type = breakvassal which = SHL }
command = { type = breakvassal which = WUR }
command = { type = breakvassal which = HES }
command = { type = breakvassal which = HAN }
command = { type = breakvassal which = PFA }
command = { type = breakvassal which = POM }
command = { type = breakvassal which = STT }
command = { type = breakvassal which = STR }
command = { type = breakvassal which = BAY }
command = { type = breakvassal which = TYR }
command = { type = breakvassal which = SEI }
command = { type = breakvassal which = MAI }
command = { type = breakvassal which = LUX }
command = { type = breakvassal which = BOH }
command = { type = breakvassal which = LOR }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = BRA value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = BRE value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = KLE value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = MEC value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = PRU value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = GEL value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = MUN value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = SAC value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = U16 value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = FRI value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = OLD value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = SHL value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = WUR value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = HES value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = HAN value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = PFA value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = POM value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = STT value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = STR value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = SEI value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = LUX value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = BOH value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = LOR value = -400 }
}
}
#This event commented out until it can be made to work - currently, even removing *all* other commands, the only German state one can actually form is Styria and even on the country screen no vassal can be formed, for some insane reason... Eating the HRE isn't the problem either, since HUN starts the game in that position...

######################################
# The Great Council #
# from ideas by Basileioseus #
######################################

event = {
id = 138900
trigger = {
religion = orthodox #otherwise, church unity is catholicism =)
OR = {
event = 138381 #rejected luther
event = 138382
}
event = 138388 #didn't call pope a heretic
event = #opened jerusalem to catholics
event = #
countrysize = 25
NOT = { badboy = 11 }
stability = 0
NOT = { exists = TUR }
owned = { province = 493 data = -1 } #judea
owned = { province = 492 data = -1 } #samaria
owned = { province = 399 data = PAP } #rome
relation = { country = PAP value = 175 }
OR = {
relation = { country = SPA value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = SPA }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = FRA value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = FRA }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = POR value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = POR }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = POL value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = POL }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = HAB value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = HAB }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = HUN value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = HUN }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = ENG value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = ENG }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = VEN value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = VEN }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = BAY value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = BAY }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = KOL value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = KOL }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = MAI value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = MAI }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = MLO value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = MLO }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = TOS value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = TOS }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = ARG value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = ARG }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = CAS value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = CAS }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = DAU value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = DAU }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = RUS value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = RUS }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = MOS value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = MOS }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = LIT value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = LIT }
}
OR = {
relation = { country = KNI value = 100 }
NOT = { exists = KNI }
}
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "
Note that good relations must be maintained with all the great Catholic and Orthodox nations and England in order for the Council to succeed. Further, stability must be maintained within the Empire and the Pope must not be allowed to lose Rome."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Let it begin. This has gone on too long."
command = { type = setflag which = grcouncil }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Abandon the Catholics to God's wrath"
command = {}
}
}

event = {
id = 138905
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
OR = {
NOT = { stability = -2 }
badboy = 20
NOT = { owned = { province = 399 data = PAP } } #rome
NOT = { relation = { country = PAP value = 150 }
AND = {
exists = SPA
NOT = { relation = { country = SPA value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = CAS
NOT = { relation = { country = CAS value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = ARG
NOT = { relation = { country = ARG value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = FRA
NOT = { relation = { country = FRA value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = ENG
NOT = { relation = { country = ENG value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = POR
NOT = { relation = { country = POR value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = MLO
NOT = { relation = { country = MLO value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = POL
NOT = { relation = { country = POL value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = HUN
NOT = { relation = { country = HUN value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = HAB
NOT = { relation = { country = HAB value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = LIT
NOT = { relation = { country = LIT value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = RUS
NOT = { relation = { country = RUS value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = MOS
NOT = { relation = { country = MOS value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = BAY
NOT = { relation = { country = BAY value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = KOL
NOT = { relation = { country = KOL value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = MAI
NOT = { relation = { country = MAI value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = KNI
NOT = { relation = { country = KNI value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = DAU
NOT = { relation = { country = DAU value = 100 }
}
AND = {
exists = VEN
NOT = { relation = { country = VEN value = 100 }
}
}
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Council fails"
desc = "Due to a failure to maintain close ties to all of the nations involved, the Byzantine Empire was forced to accept that the council would never be able to achieve a true and equitable union."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Damn."
command = { type = clrflag which = grcouncil }
command = { type = vp value = -150 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138906
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "The first question to be decided was, as expected, one of the most contentious - where was this great council to be held? It wasn't merely a question of travel expenses and tourist revenues: the closer a council was held to either church, the more bishops could be brought to bear for a side."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 365
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Constantinople"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -45 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 75 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Rome"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -50 }
}
action_c = {
name = "Vienna"
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -25 }
}
}
#the original idea was to have multiple events and force the player to coincide with the papal decision

event = {
id = 138907
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Considering that the most contentious matters might as well be the first discussed, the Romans began a heated and extensive debate about the powers and primacy of the Roman pontiff. The See of St. Peter and the Imperial seat had never been viewed as anything less than the first Bishop of Christendom, 'the Rock upon whom Christ built the church,' but over the years the Popes had claimed more than their due rights. The breaking point between the two faiths east and west had been when Pope Benedictus VIII had inserted the filioque clause into the Nicene Creed, overriding two ecumenical councils merely on his own authority. On the abdication of the Pope Gregory XII, argument had been closed in the West and papal supremacy became a fact if not a doctrine until the Vatican Council of 1869. Revisiting the issue was painful."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 365
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "First among equals with the Patriarchs of the Church" #primus inter pares
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 100 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Universal Father, under the guidance of the Councils"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -40 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = -25 }
}
action_c = {
name = "Christ's Vicar, Servant of God, Lord of the Church"
command = { type = religion which = catholic }
command = { type = stability value = -6 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 100 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138908
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Having questioned and reduced the Pope's power and perogative, the emperor was forced to endure a similar treatment. Henceforth the status of the emperor would be"
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "The lord of this world"
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = -99 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -99 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -99 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -99 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = -99 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -99 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Ruler of all the East"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -25 }
}
action_c = {
name = "But another king under the church"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 50 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138909
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "With those two great issues settled, the Council seemed an astonishing success. And yet, in the backrooms, theologians worked long into the night trying to find some sort of compromise over the 'filioque' addition to the Nicene Creed. The premise that the Holy Spirit proceeds also from the Son was only weakly justified by the Scholastics - and directly contradicted statements of Our Lord. Further, the Pope had ignored not only the Nicene and Constantinople Councils themselves when he had altered the Creed - he had ignored Ephesus as well, which had explicitly prohibited any modification. And yet, with the vast majority of Christendom under his care, he was certainly not going to concede the error at such a high-profile conference. The problem seemed intractible."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "The Spirit procedes from the Father alone"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -100 }
}
action_b = {
name = "The Spirit procedes from the Father and the Son"
command = { type = religion which = catholic }
command = { type = stability value = -6 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -400 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 100 }
}
action_c = {
name = "Another council can discuss this at a later date"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -25 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138910
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Now that the great issues were decided, the rest was detail work that could be worked out by legates and bishops. Unfortunately, the emperor and ecumenical patriarch would still need to keep everyone on board until a final settlement was reached..."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "At least we got this far!"
command = { type = vp value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = LIT value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 25 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138915
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "The first issue of reconciliation would be the separate calendars. Partially because of a decision at the Council of Nicaia and partially out of simple stubborness, the Eastern Orthodox churches to this day do not use the Gregorian calendar for reckoning Easter, even if everything else in their lives observes it. In 1578 Pope Gregorius XIII had commissioned an inquiry into why the Passion week was falling out of harmony with the seasons and discovered that leap years needed to be excluded from the centuries non-divisible by four and that two weeks needed to be omitted. Peasants at the time rioted, thinking the new calendar a conspiracy of their landlords to cheat them out of rent. Certainly, the issue of papal autocracy had already been covered, but just as certainly, the church council had erred not as a matter of spiritual guidance but of simple scientific knowledge."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Yeah, OK, we got that one wrong"
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -5 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 5 }
command = { type = relation which = LIT value = 5 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138911
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Under the Council of Chalcedon, the Archbishop of Constantinople New Rome has jurisdiction over all lands not thitherto Christianized and appellate jurisdiction over all dioceses. Not that the popes had ever accepted that aspect of the Council, but there is no possibility they ever will, especially now that such wide expanses of new converts have been found in the Nea Kosmos in the West. It is unfortunate but inevitable that we will be the ones to make the greater number of sacrifices to ensure this reconciliation succeeds."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Each patriarchate shall be soveraign"
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -25 }
}
action_c = {
name = "Appellate jurisdiction shall be held by Rome"
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 25 }
}
action_a = {
name = "Appellate jurisdiction has been and ever shall be held by New Rome"
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 100 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138912
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Over the years, the customs of the two churches began to differ widely as well. Catholic priests are celibate, shaven,
; their Greek counterparts are bearded, married, and . Both go in for ritual, but Catholicism still performed the mass only in Latin while the Orthodox allow vernacular services. The Greeks used leavened bread, the Latins, unleavened for the Eucharist.

Obviously, the Catholics would approve if the Greeks were to adopt their practices, but this might be poliitically untenable and an easy dodge is to allow each patriarchate to adopt its own practice, so long as it reflects the Church."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Allow separate usage"
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -25 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 25 }
}
action_b = {
name = "Demand they accept Greek rites"
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 100 }
}
action_c = {
name = "Adopt Latin practices"
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 25 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 25 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138913
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
OR = {
event = ?????? #armenian event
event = ?????? #coptic event
event = ?????? #nestorian event
}
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Although there had been hints before now, the Catholics waited until the last week of the Council to announce their ultimatum: there would be no church unity without a condemnation of the Nestorian and Monophysite heretics we have previously received back into our church. Their theologians understand and sympathize with our assessment of their orthodoxy, but the Cyrilian creed of the former and the refusal to honor Mary by the latter have damned them in the eyes of the West."
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Ok"
command = { type = lose_countryculture which = armenian }
command = { type = lose_countryculture which = madagasque }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 25 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 15 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #coptic provinces
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #armenian provinces
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
command = { type = revolt which = ??? } #
}
action_b = {
name = "No"
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -200 }
command = { type = stability value = 3 }
}
}

event = {
id = 138914
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = BYZ
name = "Ut unim sint" #that there might be one
desc = ""
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Hallelujah!"
command = { type = vp value = 1000 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 100 }
}
}

event = {
id = ??????
trigger = {
flag = grcouncil
}
random = no
country = PAP
name = "Ut unim sint"
desc = ""
date = {}
offset = 0
deathdate = {}

action_a = {
name = "Hallelujah!"
command = { type = vp value = 1000 }
command = { type = relation which = RUS value = 400 }
command = { type = relation which = KNI value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = CAS value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = ARG value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = DAU value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = KOL value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = MAI value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = MLO value = 100 }
}
}

event = {
id = ??????
trigger = {
event = 138914 #council succeeds
OR = {
religion = catholic
religion = counterreform
}
}
random = no
country = ??????
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Event for Catholic countries"
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Ratify the Council"
command = { type = religion which = orthodox }
}
action_b = {
name = "Condemn the concessions"
command = { type = religion which = protestant }
}
}

event = {
id = ??????
trigger = {
event = 138914 #council succeeds
religion = orthodox
}
random = no
country = ??????
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "Event for Orthodox countries"
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = "Ratify the Council"
command = { type = religion which = orthodox }
}
action_b = {
name = "Condemn the concessions"
command = { type = religion which = protestant }
}
}

event = {
id = ??????
trigger = {
event = 138914 #council succeeds
OR = {
provincereligion = catholic
provincereligion = counterreform
provincereligion = orthodox
}
}
random = no
province = ??????
name = "The Great Council"
desc = "AI event for all Catholic & Orthodox provinces"
date = { year = ???? }
offset = 0
deathdate = { year = ???? }

action_a = {
name = ""
command = { type = provincereligion which = ???? value = orthodox }
}
action_b = {
name = ""
command = { type = provincereligion which = ???? value = protestant }
}
}

After all, there can't be Catholicism without the pope on your side... After I get the HRE event to work, this sequence will be the next thing to clean up, but the scripting of province by province events will be on hiatus while we figure out how MKJ's map will affect it.

jay.

 

[LlywelynII]

Added final French and English events, new Papal States events re: BYZ as HRE &c, new Orthodox church events, new Protestant Reformation events , and draft versions of BYZ HRE and Great Reunification events (that I still can't get to work - grrr .)

jay.

 

[unmerged(45766)]

Perhaps your "Germany in Flames" event is too long. Have you tried cutting the commands (like making a try with a handful of those german provinces).

Or you could cut the "trigger Germany in flames" command in the preceding event, and introduce in the trigger part "event = 138903", and date + offset + deathdate, in case the problem lies in having to run the game for a few days before allowing independences.

 

[LlywelynII]

I'm dumb.

Perhaps your "Germany in Flames" event is too long. Have you tried cutting the commands (like making a try with a handful of those german provinces).

Or you could cut the "trigger Germany in flames" command in the preceding event, and introduce in the trigger part "event = 138903", and date + offset + deathdate, in case the problem lies in having to run the game for a few days before allowing independences.

Fixed it. Kinda.

There's a two day offset before the game realizes you own the provinces, which makes it tricky to fire the next event...
jay.

 

[Benedict Arnold]

Just a quick question, the event that changes Alexandria to Greek culture gives -50000 manpower, isn't that a tad excessive? I mean its one thing to hurt them, but another entirely to totally cripple them, especially since its not an a or b choice, but a forced route. Other than that, I'm throughly enjoying the events, keep up the good work!

 

[LlywelynII]

Just a quick question, the event that changes Alexandria to Greek culture gives -50000 manpower, isn't that a tad excessive? I mean its one thing to hurt them, but another entirely to totally cripple them, especially since its not an a or b choice, but a forced route. Other than that, I'm throughly enjoying the events, keep up the good work!

First, I'm curious if everything else has been working normally for you so far - I've been busy at work, tossed offline by my ISP and researching possible royal lines to create more realistic succession issues. I've worked to make everything stable, but (given over 400 events) it's fantastic if it actually is

next,

#The Egyptian Campaign#
event = {
	id = 138212
	random = no
	country = BYZ
	name = "The Egyptian Campaign"
	desc = "Until its loss to the Arabs, Egypt had been the breadbasket to the Empire; its fertility had funded the universities and libraries of Alexandreia. Far more important now, though, was the recovery of Jerusalem and the Holy Sepulchre. However poor and distant, this was the land where the Savior had lived and died and lived again. The miracle of our recovery has convinced the populace that we are blessed by God for this purpose. Every able man in the Empire has gathered for the fleet at Constantinople. Unbidden, the Logothetes have purchased cannon with their own estates."

	action_a ={
		name = "Thine will be done!" #what's 'Deus vult' in Greek? =)
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 35000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 15000 }
		command = { type = ART which = -2 value = 40 }
                command = { type = manpower value = -50000 } #meant it about everybody showing up
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
	}
}

Is this the event you're talking about? It doesn't change Alexandreia to Greek culture (that's event 138276.)

My intention was temporarily to eviscerate the current manpower pool (ie, reduce it to 0, and then let it grow normally from there) to reflect everyone showing up for war. You get fewer men, but they're free. Now, if that somehow permanently affects the manpower supply, I do need to fix that...

jay.