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Ok for monarchs now but will events for Sweden make sense during the whole timeframe?

Shouldn't we add a monarch trigger for those who cannot happen because the monarch is not the historical one?

it is only these 4 monarchs ( below) which are unhistorical and that will only occur if action B is taken

command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131517 } #Johan IV °
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131518 } #Johan V Kasimir °
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131519 } #Frederick VII Magnus °
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0131520 } #Karl IX Filip °
 
Yes, but this means a century of Swedish history.

I do not know exactly what you mean.

These are old events for monarchs which are ahistorical. From what I gathered on swedish history, it must have recorrected itself after a century
 
In the ahistorical option given above, only the first two monarchs are correct--I checked further the other two were not descendants of Sigismund whatsoever.

So, after a short regency the succession should then devolve on the historical Karl XI and proceed normally.

Kristina is gone, Karl X Gustav is gone--and the events associated with those reigns--that's all.

It seems to me that those to be slept or seriously rethought would be the #SWE: Treaty of Vyborg sequence, #SWE: Tsar Vladislav #SWE: Emperor Charles Philip of Russia, #SWE: Oxenstierna's Regency, The Quarter Reduction of Charles X, #SWE: The Quarter Reduction of Christina, SWE: Queen Christina-The Catholic Maiden, #SWE: Karl X Gustav ambitions, #SWE: De La Gardie's Regency, #SWE: Treaty of Marienburg, #SWE: Treaty of Labiau.

One might want to add an event respecting the Swedish reaction to the Deluge but I leave that to wiser heads than mine

corsair
 
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In the ahistorical option given above, only the first two monarchs are correct--I checked further the other two were not descendants of Sigismund whatsoever.

So, after a short regency the succession should then devolve on the historical Karl XI and proceed normally.

Kristina is gone, Karl X Gustav is gone--and the events associated with those reigns--that's all.

It seems to me that those to be slept or seriously rethought would be the #SWE: Treaty of Vyborg sequence, #SWE: Tsar Vladislav #SWE: Emperor Charles Philip of Russia, #SWE: Oxenstierna's Regency, The Quarter Reduction of Charles X, #SWE: The Quarter Reduction of Christina, SWE: Queen Christina-The Catholic Maiden, #SWE: Karl X Gustav ambitions, #SWE: De La Gardie's Regency, #SWE: Treaty of Marienburg, #SWE: Treaty of Labiau.

One might want to add an event respecting the Swedish reaction to the Deluge but I leave that to wiser heads than mine

corsair

ok

so for all the events you noted, if we add in the trigger monarch = xxxxxx, then this will suffice to prevent these events happening if action B was taken, correct?
 

#(1632) Oxenstierna's Regency
event = {
id = 3236
trigger = {
monarch = 0131523 #Kristina
}

random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME3236" #Oxenstierna's Regency
desc = "EVENTHIST3236"
#-#Upon Gustavus Adolphus not entirely unexpected but greatly feared demise at Lützen on November 6, 1632 Axel Oxenstierna had to shoulder the full burden of governing the realm as head regent for Gustavus's six year old daughter Christina. The brilliant administrator kept the nation running smoothly, but the aristocratic tendencies that had been kept in check by the late King were unleashed in full by the high lords of the regency to the great detriment of the lower classes and the Crown. One of the other five regents was Karl Karlsson Gyllenhielm, bastard brother to Gustavus and high admiral of the realm. Of the lot, he was the least concerned with personal wealth and privileges.

date = { day = 7 month = november year = 1632 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3236A" #Regency under Oxenstierna
command = { type = DIP which = 4 value = 264 }
command = { type = ADM which = 4 value = 264 }
command = { type = MIL which = 4 value = 264 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3236B" #Regency under Gyllenhielm
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = naval value = 1000 }
command = { type = infra value = 500 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 291031 } #SWE: The Hannibal controversy
}
}

..........................

#(1650-1652) The Quarter Reduction of Christina
event = {
id = 3238
trigger = { monarch = 0131523 } #Kristina
random = no

already done

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#(1654) Queen Christina-The Catholic Maiden
event = {
id = 3239
trigger = { monarch = 0131523 } #Kristina
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME3239" #Queen Christina-The Catholic Maiden
desc = "EVENTHIST3239"
#-#At the parliament of 1650 Christina had set her mind on making her cousin Charles Gustavus heir to the throne and she also did. But what if..? Her intention to abdicate had reached the ears of Magnus Gabriel de la Gardie and the men around him. The High Nobility of Sweden defied this and managed to break any burgher-peasant coalition Christina manages to create. In a nightly discussion De la Gardie promised the Queen that she might herself chose the religion of her conscience if she stayed as Queen and ruled together with the cream of the Nobility. However, should she decide not to then De la Gardie and his friend would see to it that Charles Gustavus never became heir. Thus, Christina surrendered and chose stay on the throne in 1654.

date = { day = 6 month = june year = 1654 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3239A" #Abdicate
command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0131523 } #Kristina
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -1 }
command = { type = land value = 250 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
#command = { type = AI which = Sweden_Post_TYW.ai }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3239B" #Stay and personally convert to Catholicism
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 5 }
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 1 }
command = { type = gainmanufactory which = -1 value = luxury }
command = { type = relation which = POL value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = HAB value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = BAY value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = COL value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = SAV value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = POR value = 150 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
#command = { type = AI which = Sweden_Post_TYW.ai }
}
}

.........................................

#(1655-1660) Karl X Gustav ambitions
#by Duc de Guise with help from rybka
event = {
id = 291034
trigger = {
#Jan Kazimierz denied Karl X rights on Swedish throne, irritating him
monarch = 0131524 #Karl X Gustav
war = { country = RUS country = POL }


already done

...................................................

#(1656) Treaty of Labiau
#by Duc de Guise
event = {
id = 291036
trigger = {
monarch = 0131524 #Karl X Gustav
war = { country = POL country = SWE }
exists = BRA
NOT = {
war = { country = BRA country = SWE }
}
}
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME291036" #Treaty of Labiau
desc = "EVENTHIST291036"
#-#Friedrich-Wilhelm seems to get closer to the Poles. We must try to make concessions in order to keep him allied with us.

date = { day = 1 month = september year = 1656 }
offset = 10
deathdate = { day = 29 month = november year = 1656 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291036A" #Make concessions to Brandenburg for further help
#Karl Gustav renounce on royal Prussia
command = { type = removecore which = 301 } #Danzig
#Karl Gustav new goals
command = { type = addcore which = 283 } #Kurland
command = { type = addcore which = 289 } #Memel
command = { type = addcore which = 290 } #Prussia
command = { type = trigger which = 132030 } #BRA: Treaty of Labiau
}
}
.....................................................................

#(1656) Treaty of Marienburg
#by Duc de Guise
event = {
id = 291035
trigger = {
monarch = 0131524 #Karl X Gustav
war = { country = SWE country = POL }
control = { province = 291 data = POL } #reaction of Karl Gustav after Warsaw retook by Poles #Mazovia
exists = BRA
NOT = {
war = { country = BRA country = SWE }
}
}
random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME291035" #Treaty of Marienburg
desc = "EVENTHIST291035"
#-#The Poles, in a shocking return of their King, managed to hold/retake their capital, forcing Swedish troops to go back. Military help of the Elector Friedrich-Wilhelm was needed.

date = { day = 1 month = june year = 1656 }
offset = 10
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1656 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME291035A" #Ask for Brandenburgian help
command = { type = trigger which = 132029 } #BRA: Treaty of Marienburg
}
}

........................................................

#(1660) Magnus Gabriel de la Gardie's Regency
event = {
id = 3240
trigger = {
monarch = 0131524 #Karl X Gustav
}

random = no
country = SWE
name = "EVENTNAME3240" #De La Gardie's Regency
desc = "EVENTHIST3240"
#-#On his deathbed, Charles X appointed the regents for his son Charles in a way that would limit the power of the high aristocracy to avoid a situation similar to Axel Oxenstierna's regency. Soon after he was dead however, the Council and the House of Lords managed to replace two of his closest supporters, Prince Adolf Johan and Herman Fleming, with the more pliable Lars Kagg and Gustav Bonde. The result was a return to the government statutes of 1634, with policies closely aligned with the interests of the landed nobles.

date = { day = 14 month = february year = 1660 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 14 month = april year = 1660 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3240A" #Replace the King's Men
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 3 }
command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = QUALITY value = -2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3240B" #Comply with the King's Will
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
}
}



I think this is all
 
This might have been brought up before, but i didn't have the time to read through all 40+ pages :eek:

Playing Denmark it would seem pretty stupid not to try and retain the Kalmar Union. So i think there could be added some events that would add some more flavour to a Denmark game where you for pretty much the entire game is the Kalmar Union rather then Denmark:

1) Change flag to the Kalmar Union Flag: I think there are three or so events that proclaims a revived Kalmar Union, there could include a change in flag. Denmark have no other flag changes during the game, so it would not interfere with other events

2) Remoddeling of Swedish events into danish ones: The Kalmar Union would probably act a lot like Sweden later did. Therefore you could add some scripted conflicts with Russia and Poland and the reformation in Germany and remove some of the events that doesn't make sense when Sweden does not exist anyway.

3) Add a possiblity for Denmark to gain Ugric as a state culture?

These changes would probably make Denmark as the Kalmer Union stronger, so you could add some more "swedish noble revolts" and "swedish nobles seek independence" events to counter balance it.
 
Playing Denmark it would seem pretty stupid not to try and retain the Kalmar Union. So i think there could be added some events that would add some more flavour to a Denmark game where you for pretty much the entire game is the Kalmar Union rather then Denmark:

In my opinion , it would only make sense only if denmark owned maybe 4 to 5 swedish regions, before 1536. The polish line would still try to come into play to rule swedish lands

1) Change flag to the Kalmar Union Flag: I think there are three or so events that proclaims a revived Kalmar Union, there could include a change in flag. Denmark have no other flag changes during the game, so it would not interfere with other events

this flag ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmar_union

3) Add a possiblity for Denmark to gain Ugric as a state culture?

its called Finnic culture now, since there are extra events recently added
 
I think this is all
I forgot some events were slept:
Code:
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3230 } #SWE: Emperor Charles Philip of Russia
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3236 } #SWE: Oxenstierna's Regency
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3237 } #SWE: The Quarter Reduction of Charles X
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3238 } #SWE: The Quarter Reduction of Christina
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3239 } #SWE: Queen Christina-The Catholic Maiden
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3240 } #SWE: De La Gardie's Regency
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3245 } #SWE: The Oriental Diplomacy
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3246 } #SWE: Arvid Horn and the Age of Freedom
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3248 } #SWE: Pietism and the Conventicle Edict
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3254 } #SWE: Swedish Parliament of 1738
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3754 } #SWE: The Threat to Protestantism in Germany
Anyway, better have monarch trigger in corresponding events too.
 
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0131519 }
startdate = {
day = 17
month = december
year = 1672
}
deathdate = {
day = 29
month = november
year = 1718
}
name = "Johan VI Wilhelm °"
DIP = 6
ADM = 3
MIL = 7
dormant = yes
remark = "Son of Anna Katarzyna Konstaneja, Sigismunds daughter. Originally of the Catholic Pfalz-Neuburg

Dynasty"
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0131520 }
startdate = {
day = 29
month = november
year = 1718
}
deathdate = {
day = 29 #31th in RL
month = december
year = 1742
}
name = "Karl IX Filip °"
DIP = 6
ADM = 7
MIL = 7
dormant = yes
remark = "Brother of Johan VI Wilhelm, Pfalz-Neuburg Dynasty"
}


These were not descendants of Sigismund--they were only stepsons of Anna Katarzyna Konstaneja, Sigismunds daughter.

She appears to have had no natural offspring.
 
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0131519 }
startdate = {
day = 17
month = december
year = 1672
}
deathdate = {
day = 29
month = november
year = 1718
}
name = "Johan VI Wilhelm °"
DIP = 6
ADM = 3
MIL = 7
dormant = yes
remark = "Son of Anna Katarzyna Konstaneja, Sigismunds daughter. Originally of the Catholic Pfalz-Neuburg

Dynasty"
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 0131520 }
startdate = {
day = 29
month = november
year = 1718
}
deathdate = {
day = 29 #31th in RL
month = december
year = 1742
}
name = "Karl IX Filip °"
DIP = 6
ADM = 7
MIL = 7
dormant = yes
remark = "Brother of Johan VI Wilhelm, Pfalz-Neuburg Dynasty"
}


These were not descendants of Sigismund--they were only stepsons of Anna Katarzyna Konstaneja, Sigismunds daughter.

She appears to have had no natural offspring.


you are correct, but we use these for the ahistorical B option
 
Some months ago we had a debate about Nordic regnal names.

After checking Wikipedia, it does indeed seem that the Danes use numbers instead of numerals to number their monarchs.

f.e. Christian 10. instead of Christian X

Can anyone confirm or deny this? Is it a recent thing? Not sure why Wikipedia would have them all listed as such if it wasn't the case.

If it is, then we should maybe accommodate this practice into the DAN monarch file...
 
Some months ago we had a debate about Nordic regnal names.

After checking Wikipedia, it does indeed seem that the Danes use numbers instead of numerals to number their monarchs.

f.e. Christian 10. instead of Christian X

Can anyone confirm or deny this? Is it a recent thing? Not sure why Wikipedia would have them all listed as such if it wasn't the case.

If it is, then we should maybe accommodate this practice into the DAN monarch file...

i am confused, i only see roman numerals for the danes, even wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Danish_monarchs

what list are you looking at ?

also here
http://www.worldstatesmen.org/Denmark.html