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crash63 said:
Is it normal to not have a core on Basrah ? I vassalize Al Hassa by event but I haven't a land connection with it.
Historicaly Ottomans must reach Persian Gulf. :confused:
They had a naval base and a shipyard in Basra.
 

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I propose this modification :
Code:
#(1520) The Conquests of Suleyman I The Law Giver
event = {
	id = 301005
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME301005" #The Conquests of Suleyman I The Law Giver
	desc = "EVENTHIST301005"
	#-#Under Suleyman I, the Empire reached its greatest heights, even as the internal decay which would later bring down the Empire began. Hungary, Jedisan, Irak, Armenia, Gerogia, Yemen, Oman, Libya, and the Saffavid capital of Tabriz all fell to Suleyman's armies. The Sultan tried to destroy the Knights of St. John once and for all, with an invasion of Malta. He laid seige to the capital of Austria, took ever more territory from the Venetians in Dalmatia, and vassalized the pirates of Algeria.

	date = { day = 22 month = september year = 1520 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301005A" #I am truely Lord of the Horizons
		command = { type = addcore which = 365 } #Dalmatia
		command = { type = addcore which = 470 } #Kolkhis
		command = { type = addcore which = 472 } #Iveria
		command = { type = addcore which = 479 } #Ionia
		command = { type = addcore which = 489 } #Iraq
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 508 } #Basrah[/COLOR]
		command = { type = addcore which = 740 } #Tripolitania
		command = { type = addcore which = 362 } #Ragusa
		#command = { type = AI which = TUR_SuleymanI.ai }
	}
}
 

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Proposal to simulate XVIII-XIX Ottoman Europe.

######################################
#(1750-1800) Rümelia in arms Sequence#
######################################

Code:
#(1757-1800) Bushati Princes of Shkoder 
#by Aylo1
event = { 
        id = 301089
        trigger = {
		event = 3381 #Decentralizing Effect of Provincial System#
		NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization = 5 } }
		NOT = { exists = ALB
			  stability = 0 }
		OR = { owned = { province = 361 data = -1 }   #Albania#
			 owned = { province = 362 data = -1 } } #Ragusa# 
        } 
        random = NO 
        country = TUR

        name = "EVENTNAME301089" #Bushati Princes of Shkoder (1757-1831)
        desc = "EVENTHIST301089"
	  #-#

        date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1757 } 
	  offset = 360
	  deathdate = { year = 1800 } 

        action_a = { # 
              name = "ACTIONNAME301089A" #Grant limited autonomy
		  command = { type = domestic which = centralization = -1 }
		  command = { type = domestic which = quality = -1 } #some of Turks fiercest soldiers were Albanians#
		  command = { type = remove_culture which = albanian }
		  command = { type = removecore which = 361 } #Albania
		  command = { type = removecore which = 362 } #Ragusa
		  command = { type = independence which = ALB }
		  command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 03013 } #Gjergj II
		  command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 03014 } #Guxim
		  command = { type = wakemonarch which = 03015 } #Mehmed Bey Bushati
		  command = { type = wakemonarch which = 03016 } #Kara Mahmud
		  command = { type = wakemonarch which = 03017 } #Ibrahim Pasha
		  command = { type = wakemonarch which = 03018 } #Mustafa
		  command = { type = wakeleader which = 03301 } #Kara Mahmoud
		  command = { type = wakeleader which = 03302 } #Mustafa
        } 
        action_b = { # 
              name = "ACTIONNAME301089B" #Crush Bushati!
		  command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 361 value = 6 }
		  command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 362 value = 6 }
		  command = { type = remove_culture which = albanian }
		  command = { type = removecore which = 361 } 
		  command = { type = removecore which = 362 } 
              command = { type = stability value = -2 }  
		  command = { type = revolt which = 361 }
		  command = { type = revolt which = 362 }
        } 
}

EVENTNAME301089;Bushati Princes of Shkoder (1757-1831);;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST301089;A weakened state was powerless in preventing the creation of an independent principate by Mehmed Bey Bushati. Centered around Shkoder in northern Albania, his power rested on a network of tribal alliances. The ambitious Kara Mahmoud (r.1785-96) enlarged the realm & expertly played Austria and Russia against the Ottomans. His defeat by Montenegro ended the fledging state's autonomy with Ibrahim Pasha (r.1796-1810) co-operating with the Sublime Porte. His unruly successor Mustafa (r.1810-31) attempted to reassert his self-rule but was crushed by an Ottoman expeditionary force under Mehmet Reshid Pasha.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301089A;Grant limited autonomy;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301089B;Crush Bushati!;;;;;;;;;;

Code:
#Albanian Leaders#
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 03301 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Kara Mahmoud"
	startdate = {
		year = 1785
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1796
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = yes
}
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 03302 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Mustafa"
	startdate = {
		year = 1810
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1831
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 2
	siege = 0
	dormant = yes
}
#First free id: 03303

Code:
#(1788-1820) Ali Pasha
#by Aylo1
event = { 
        id = 301090
        trigger = {
		event = 3381 #Decentralizing Effect of Provincial System#
		NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization = 5 } }
		owned = { province = 359 data = -1 } #Greece - Ali Pasha
		NOT = { exists = GRE
			  stability = 0 }
        } 
        random = NO 
        country = TUR

        name = "EVENTNAME301090" #Lion of Yannia (1788-1822)
        desc = "EVENTHIST301090"
	  #-#

        date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1788 } 
	  offset = 360
	  deathdate = { year = 1820 } 

        action_a = { # 
              name = "ACTIONNAME301090A" #Grant limited autonomy
		  command = { type = domestic which = centralization = -1 }
		  command = { type = treasury value = -100 }
		  command = { type = manpower value = -2 }
		  command = { type = independence which = GRE }
        } 
        action_b = { # 
              name = "ACTIONNAME301090B" #Crush Tepedeleni Ali Pasa
		  command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 359 value = 6 }
		  command = { type = provincetax which = 359 value = -1 }
              command = { type = stability value = -2 } 
		  command = { type = revolt which = 359 }
		  command = { type = revolt which = 359 }
        } 
}

EVENTNAME301090;Lion of Yannia (1788-1822);;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST301090;Disatisfied with his post at Trikala, Ali Pasha seized control of Ioannia - gradually expanding his holdings into Albania, Western Greece and the Peloponnese. Ruling as a semi-autonomous Despot, he pursued a policy of expediency - siding with whomever offered the most advantageous terms. Ali Pasha was also a noted reformer and patron of Greek culture. Lord Bryon described him as 'a just, though merciless prince'. His support of Filiki Eteria earned the enmity of the Porte who besieged him before being killed by his soldiers.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301090A;Grant limited autonomy;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301090B;Crush Tepedeleni Ali Pasa;;;;;;;;;;

Code:
#Create GRE monarch\leaders
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 054500 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1787 #Gov of Trikala
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 24
		month = january
		year = 1822
	}
	name = "Ali Pasa"
	DIP = 7
	ADM = 6
	MIL = 8
	dormant = no
}
#First free id: 054501

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 054750 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Ali Pasa"
	startdate = {
		year = 1788
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 24
		month = january
		year = 1822
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
#First free id: 054751

Code:
#(1794-1807) Osman Pazvantoglu
#by Aylo1
event = { 
        id = 301091
        trigger = {
		event = 3381 #Decentralizing Effect of Provincial System#
		NOT = { domestic = { type = centralization = 5 } }
		OR = { owned = { province = 321 data = -1 } #Rumelia - Osman Pazvantoglu
			 owned = { province = 356 data = -1 } } #Bulgaria 
		NOT = { exists = BUL
			  stability = 0 }
        } 
        random = NO 
        country = TUR

        name = "EVENTNAME301091" #As in the time of Pazvante" #Romanian saying#
        desc = "EVENTHIST301091"
	  #-#

        date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1794 } 
	  offset = 360
	  deathdate = { year = 1800 } 

        action_a = { # 
              name = "ACTIONNAME301091A" #Grant limited autonomy
		  command = { type = domestic which = centralization = -1 }
		  command = { type = remove_culture which = slavonic }
		  command = { type = removecore which = 321 } #Rumelia
		  command = { type = removecore which = 356 } #Bulgaria
		  command = { type = independence which = BUL }
		  command = { type = secedeprovince which = BUL value = 356 }
		  command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 026521 } #Aleksandar Stefan
		  command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 026522 } #Aleksandar II
		  command = { type = wakemonarch which = 026523 } #Osman Pazvantoglu
        } 
        action_b = { # 
              name = "ACTIONNAME301091B" #Crush Pazvantoglu!
		  command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 321 value = 6 }
		  command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 356 value = 6 }
		  command = { type = remove_culture which = slavonic }
		  command = { type = removecore which = 321 } #Rumelia
		  command = { type = removecore which = 356 } #Bulgaria
              command = { type = stability value = -2 }  
		  command = { type = revolt which = 321 }
		  command = { type = revolt which = 356 }
        } 
}

EVENTNAME301091;As in the time of Pazvante;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST301091;Known for his frequent raids into Wallachia and the attempted rescue of his Greek revolutionary friend Rigas Feraios, Osman Pazvantoglu (1758-1807) was a one-time guard of Wallachian Prince Nicolae Mavrogheni. With a mercenary army Pazvantoglu forged a petty fiefdom ranging from Belgrade to Varna. A failed attempt at expelling him consolidated his rule. Pazvantoglu's incursions into Wallachia caused the downfall of Princes Constantin V Hancerli, Alexandru VIII Maruzi and Mihai IV Sutu while his building program gave Vidin a mosque, library, madrasah (Islamic school) and a small Muslim cloister.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301091A;Grant limited autonomy;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME301091B;Crush Pazvantoglu!;;;;;;;;;;

#End of Sequence

#TUR 1st free id 301092

Code:
#Add to BUL monarch\leaders
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 026523 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1794 #Gov of Vidin
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 27
		month = january
		year = 1807
	}
	name = "Osman Pazvantoglu"
	DIP = 2
	ADM = 5
	MIL = 7
	dormant = no
}
#First free id: 026524

historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 026750 }
	category = monarch
	name = "Osman Pazvantoglu"
	startdate = {
		year = 1794
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 27
		month = january
		year = 1807
	}
	rank = 0
	movement = 2
	fire = 3
	shock = 3
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
#First free id: 026751
 

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crash63 said:
Historicaly, Ottomans owns Basrah. A core would be normal especially if you have Al Hasaa as vassal without a land connection.

I agree with granting a core on Basrah. German wiki has a nice map showing Basrah as part of the Ottoman empire.

http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Ottoman_empire_1481-1683.jpg

However there already *is* an event granting a core on Basrah:
TUR3360 which is triggered by PER3560A - so TUR has a 95% chance to get the core if Persia/Safavic Empire is existing.

And - oops. How about event 301007 (Conquests of Murad)? It also already grants a core on Bashra...

So I´m against Crash63´s suggestion to grant a core on Basrah with the "Süleiman I" event. Süleiman I has his hands full conquering hungary, Basrah should be a target later.
 
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Yes, we already have two events granting core on Basrah.

TUR_3360 is even before Suleyman (range of TUR_3360: 1512-1522) but under condition of existence of Persia. Anyway, there is almost no chance to not see Persia appearing now, unless player do something in the area.

Next and last chance is in 1574 with TUR_301007 but only if action_c was not chosen in TUR_3360 (or if no Persia between 1512 and 1522).

IMHO, both events handle context correctly. No need to add a core that doesn't take this context into account.
 
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OE is the only major without CoA/flag change but some could be represented.

MKJ posted some flags and first one here (before conquest of Constantinople but I don't find source).

Maybe we could do something . Any thought or better sources?


Btw post #868 was never discussed. better report it in devoted thread.
 

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YodaMaster said:
OE is the only major without CoA/flag change but some could be represented.

MKJ posted some flags and first one here (before conquest of Constantinople but I don't find source).

Maybe we could do something . Any thought or better sources?


Btw post #868 was never discussed. better report it in devoted thread.

I always thought the flag was green

as per the COA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:OttomanCoatOfArms.png

the green emblem up top is the COA

note the green and red flags on each side


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ottoman_flag
 
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we need to fix the OE game as it is found wanting, granted some problems are caused by certain alliances that prevent OE wars, eg, HUN joining a BYZ, KNI, SPR alliance.


....................................................................

#(1419-1449) Military Reforms
event = {
id = 3354
random = no
country = TUR
name = "EVENTNAME3354" #Military Reforms
desc = "EVENTHIST3354"
#-#The reigns of Mehmed I and Murad II saw the Ottoman Empire reunified after the crushing defeat it had suffered at the hands of Tamerlane. The military was expanded and reformed to match any potential threat and ensure further expansion. It was also during this period that the Ottomans started to realize the vital importance of a strong navy.

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 10950
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1449 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3354A" #Great Army Reform
command = { type = land value = 1000 }
command = { type = naval value = 500 }
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = OFFENSIVE value = 2 }

command = { type = inf which = -1 value = 5000 }
command = { type = cav which = -3 value = 5000 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3354B" #Reform Army and Navy
command = { type = land value = 750 }
command = { type = naval value = 750 }
}
action_c = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3354C" #Great Naval Reform
command = { type = land value = 500 }
command = { type = naval value = 1000 }
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -1 }
command = { type = domestic which = OFFENSIVE value = -1 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 5 }
}
}


......................................................

...................................................................

#(1427-1439) Ottoman-Magyar invasion
#by Aylo1
event = {
id = 277001
trigger = {
owned = { province = 355 data = -1 } #Serbia
NOT = {
OR = {
alliance = { country = HUN country = SER }
alliance = { country = TUR country = SER }
}
}
}
random = no
country = SER
name = "EVENTNAME277001" #Ottoman-Magyar invasion
desc = "EVENTHIST277001"
#-#Upon his ascension, Djuradj Brankovic was faced with a two-fold assault from Sigismund of Hungary (who was promised Macva and Beograd by Stephan Lazarevic II) while the Sultan Murâd II attacked from the south - capturing Nis, Kruševac and Golubac and insisting that Brankovic accept Ottoman suzerainty. Henceforth Djuradj relocated the capital to the newly built fortress of Smederevo (located at the meeting of the Danube and Morava Rivers). From here Serb forces held out til June 1441 when Serbia was annexed by the Turks.

date = { day = 1 month = august year = 1427 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1439 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME277001A" #Submit to the invaders
command = { type = provincetax which = 355 value = -1 } #lose towns to HUN
command = { type = provincemanpower which = 355 value = -1 }
command = { type = secedeprovince which = TUR value = 363 } #Kosovo
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = 30 }
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 30 }
command = { type = treasury value = -75 } #tribute
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 277003 } #SER: Mines of Novo Brdo
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME277001B" #Prepare to resist
command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = -2 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = HUN value = 120 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = TUR value = 120 }
command = { type = relation which = HUN value = -150 }
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -150 }
command = { type = fortress which = 355 value = 1 } #Smederevo
command = { type = INF which = 355 value = 6000 }
command = { type = CAV which = 355 value = 2000 }
command = { type = treasury value = -120 }
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
}

red........does not make sense, why would a HUN - SER alliance prevent this event ?

.........................................................................

#(1427-1435) Rise of the Crnojevics
#by Aylo1
event = {
id = 277002
trigger = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 362 data = -1 } #Ragusa
event = 277001 #SER: Ottoman-Magyar invasion
}
}
random = no
country = SER
name = "EVENTNAME277002" #Rise of the Crnojevics
desc = "EVENTHIST277002"
#-#Capitalising on the discord of Brankovic's ascension, Stefan Crnojevic established himself in Upper Zeta. The future Montenegrin state comprised of the Lovcen area around Cetinje, with 51 municipalities including Rijeka Crnojevica (Crnojevic River), the valley of the River Zeta and the tribes Bjelopavlici, Pješivci, Malonsici, Piperi, Hoti and Klimenti (Kelmendi). It could also boast being the last free Balkan state in Ottoman Rumelia who'd preserve the Serbian heritage aswell as initator of a Slavic renaissance through its introduction of a printing press (1493). Had Brankovic subdued this breakaway state...

date = { day = 1 month = august year = 1427 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1435 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME277002A" #Cut our losses
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 18 value = -2 }
command = { type = religiousrevolt which = 363 } #kosovo
command = { type = removecore which = 362 } #Ragusa\Zeta
command = { type = treasury value = -75 } #taxes
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME277002B" #Crush the traitor Crnojevic
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 362 value = 4 }
command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -75 }
command = { type = relation which = BOS value = -75 }
command = { type = INF which = 362 value = 2000 }
command = { type = CAV which = 362 value = 1000 }
command = { type = treasury value = -50 }
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = revolt which = 362 }
}
}


This event is part of pressure placed by bosnia on serbia via venice to remove the orthodox priests from kosovo as they where "stirring" trouble in coastal albanian lands, from book., also Crnojevics had support from Venice in trying to destabilize serbia for his own gain........The Late Medieval Balkans...by John Fine

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#(1445-1446 or 1441-1451) Sultan's Ultimatum
event = {
id = 286004 #also triggered by ATH_117003 A
trigger = {
OR = {
vassal = { country = SPR country = ATH }
owned = { province = 359 data = -1 }
}
NOT = { event = 286005 } #SPR: Campaign of 1444
}
random = no
country = SPR
name = "EVENTNAME286004" #Sultan's Ultimatum
desc = "EVENTHIST286004"
#-#Having beaten the Latin Duchy of Athens into submission, its Duke Nerio II Acciajouli sought aid from the Ottoman Sultan. While Konstantinos Dragases was on campaign, Murâd II raided Boetia and Attika - threatening war if the Despot doesn't withdraw from Hellas. Do we risk his wrath?

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1445 }
offset = 120
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1446 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME286004A" #Accede to Murâd's wishes
command = { type = independence which = ATH }
command = { type = breakvassal which = ATH }
command = { type = fortress which = 360 value = -1 }
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 20 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME286004B" #Ignore the Grand Turk
command = { type = relation which = TUR value = -100 }
command = { type = war which = TUR }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 286006 } #SPR: Pelo Insurrections
}
}

continuation of script should read , that the ottoman raided the morea, destroyed hexamilion from november 1446 to december 1446, killed thousands and demanded that morea again be a vassal of the OE. this was agreed and the OE departed.
 
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Can you explain these additions? In many cases, it looks as though you just wanted to give the OE bonuses and spread them about haphazardly. Quality increase in the Absorption of Aydin? 250 gold for inheriting Germiyan? I don't want a weak OE either, but giving benefits willy nilly isn't what we do.
 

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Garbon said:
Can you explain these additions? In many cases, it looks as though you just wanted to give the OE bonuses and spread them about haphazardly. Quality increase in the Absorption of Aydin? 250 gold for inheriting Germiyan? I don't want a weak OE either, but giving benefits willy nilly isn't what we do.

i never do willy nilly things, it might seem like it, but I test stuff.

all have comments except military reforms event. I feel for this event ,should basically match closely to other major nations military reforms events, I think the OE one is the weakest of the lot, for a nation that needs to do more than the other majors

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on ephesus

The town knew again a short period of flourishing during the 14th century under these new Seljuk rulers. They added important architectural works such as the İsa Bey Mosque, caravansaries and Turkish bathhouses (hamam).
They were incorporated as vasals into the Ottoman Empire for the first time in 1390. The Central Asian warlord Tamerlane defeated the Ottomans in Anatolia in 1402 and the Ottoman sultan Bayezid I died in captivity. The region was restored to the Anatolian Turkish Beyliks. After a period unrest, the region was again incorporated into the Ottoman Empire by sultan Mehmed II in 1425.
Ephesus was eventually completely abandoned in the 15th century and lost her former glory. Nearby Ayasluğ was renamed Selçuk in 1914.

if you think 250 is too much , what do you suggest for the richest city in the aetolian coast which was ransacked and its wealth relocated to turkish held constantinple?

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aydin

the area was greek, it supplied greek, troops of quality, and these good troops remained loyal until the greek independence movement of 1824, which later led to the pre WW1 exchanged of citzens of turkish held macedonia and greek aetolia.

if tests prove an extra quality is too much, then I will revert it back
 

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Toio said:
i never do willy nilly things, it might seem like it, but I test stuff.

I didn't say that you didn't test this stuff but rather that the advantages that you're suggesting for the OE remind me of the types of stuff that IDLF gave to his AI nations for EP.

Germiyan wasn't in a wonderful place come 1429 which is sort of why its last ruler bequeathed it to the Ottomans. (Ephesus isn't the capital of Germiyan/wasn't even in Germiyan) I think 250 is a bit much to give the Ottomans after they just got a free country annexation.

Nothing in the Aydin event suggests that the Ottomans suddenly acquired a bunch of skilled greek troops. For an event that doesn't say anything about armies, it is odd to have an effect of +1 quality.
 

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Garbon said:
Germiyan wasn't in a wonderful place come 1429 which is sort of why its last ruler bequeathed it to the Ottomans. (Ephesus isn't the capital of Germiyan/wasn't even in Germiyan) I think 250 is a bit much to give the Ottomans after they just got a free country annexation.
looking at map, ephesus seems to be in germiyan
would 100 suffice?


Nothing in the Aydin event suggests that the Ottomans suddenly acquired a bunch of skilled greek troops. For an event that doesn't say anything about armies, it is odd to have an effect of +1 quality.


i am referring to this arm of the ottoman military

The first Janissary units comprised war captives and slaves, selecting one in five for enrollment in the ranks (Pencik rule). After the 1380s Sultan Mehmet I filled their ranks with the results of taxation in human form called devshirmeh: the Sultan’s men conscripted a number of non-Muslim, usually Christian Balkan boys, taken at birth at first at random, later, by strict selection – to be trained. Initially they favoured Greeks, Armenians, Albanians

the janissary where the elite
 

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Toio said:
looking at map, ephesus seems to be in germiyan
would 100 suffice?

Horrible geography doesn't mean that they should get money with that inheritance. As far as I know, Ephesus wasn't involved.

Toio said:
i am referring to this arm of the ottoman military

The first Janissary units comprised war captives and slaves, selecting one in five for enrollment in the ranks (Pencik rule). After the 1380s Sultan Mehmet I filled their ranks with the results of taxation in human form called devshirmeh: the Sultan’s men conscripted a number of non-Muslim, usually Christian Balkan boys, taken at birth at first at random, later, by strict selection – to be trained. Initially they favoured Greeks, Armenians, Albanians

the janissary where the elite

Again, the event makes no reference to favored Greeks in Aydin. Unless you're suggesting that the event text should reflect so (a little strange to me), I'd almost suggest that the quality (if needed) be added in a separate event.
 

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Garbon said:
Horrible geography doesn't mean that they should get money with that inheritance. As far as I know, Ephesus wasn't involved.



Again, the event makes no reference to favored Greeks in Aydin. Unless you're suggesting that the event text should reflect so (a little strange to me), I'd almost suggest that the quality (if needed) be added in a separate event.

ok, which event apart from these do you want eliminated from post?
 

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One question:

Is there or will there be an event for the ottomans to move the capital out of Konstantinopel, if all surronding provinces are not longer in Ottoman hands, but Ottomans still hold large provinces in East-Anatolia, Egypt or else where?

Further: If the Ottomans loose their turkish prov and their main holdings are the one in Egypt, are there any uprising events or civil war with a reemering mameluk state?