Bordic, did you sumbit this stuff yet? The stuff with the ranges up into 338241? I just need to slap some real IDs on my events and they'd be ready for mass testing.
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Not submitted in time for 1.50... and also because I think there will probably be new province specific events in order to represent the new map provinces.Garbon said:
The two events about the Olive Branch petition are still to be submitted together with your events giving the boston and philadelphia flags.
And also about your post n.934 I was waiting for your next suggestions:
I also have a bunch of ideas jotted down for how to make sure the various Continental Congress events fire (just change war with england to atwar triggers) and how to simulate peace treaties (other than the case where the target nation no longer owns any American provinces) but I need to actually compile that into a list.
Okay, I'll get the boston/philadelphia ones finalized. (I'm thinking that we could at least have a little add-on sort of thing.)
Yea, I still have those notes, I just need to actually post them.o
Yea, I still have those notes, I just need to actually post them.
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Garbon said:Okay, I'll get the boston/philadelphia ones finalized. (I'm thinking that we could at least have a little add-on sort of thing.)
Yea, I still have those notes, I just need to actually post them.
I have forgotten to tell you that I have already asked Yodamaster to reserve for us the event ID range from 338300 to 338399.
Okay here is the long delayed potential "fix" that could allow for the integration of other nations fighting the U.S. Tell me if it doesn't make sense.
I think that's it. :wacko:
I think that's it. :wacko:
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Bordic, do you know what ID is free? I just need a number and then I'll have the in 934 done very quickly.
The reservation for province specific events during the American revolution is from 338300 to 338399. The first free ID after my submission of post 937 is now 338342 .Garbon said:
Please, notice I have only submitted post 937 (turmoils) and 959 (olive branch petition) of this thread, I didn't modify other events except in RR%, which is currently in agceep 1.50 or 1.51beta4
Done!
I'll see asap.
The latest update here in post #959 at this page now trigger a new USA event. What you report was my previous suggestion.
I'll see asap.
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Yes, I have seen the events. I think your suggestions should be implemented!Garbon said:
NEW SUGGESTION in the sequence about the AMERICAN REVOLTS
Since England hasn't always enough troops to successfully crush rebels before reaching year 1773 when each province RR would reach more than 30%, the risk of province defection could be very high at this point and sometimes it happens that even if USA is released by ENG, some provinces can simply defect back to England or neighbouring France and so on...
And more, the event ENG_164046 The Olive Branch Petition, which was introduced after the changes in RR, already lets the American independence happen more easily as before, so the increased province RR is now less important as before, in previous versions of agceep.
I'd suggest to lower down the RR in the first events such as:
and from here down the current RR% in agceep remains/stays as it is in v.1.51betas:
and IMHO the line:
should be added to following events:
ENG_3349 *
ENG_3047 A B (not C)
ENG_3048 A B C
ENG_3049 A B C
ENG_4986 *
ENG_4983 *
ENG_4984 *
ENG_4985 *
ENG_3052 *
ENG_4987 *
as that province would represent the northern part of Massachusetts.
And subsequently to be added in all triggers in ENG events 3349 3047 3048 3049 and together with the other NA provinces:
EDIT: the addition of this province was actually already suggested but not yet submitted...
Since England hasn't always enough troops to successfully crush rebels before reaching year 1773 when each province RR would reach more than 30%, the risk of province defection could be very high at this point and sometimes it happens that even if USA is released by ENG, some provinces can simply defect back to England or neighbouring France and so on...
And more, the event ENG_164046 The Olive Branch Petition, which was introduced after the changes in RR, already lets the American independence happen more easily as before, so the increased province RR is now less important as before, in previous versions of agceep.
I'd suggest to lower down the RR in the first events such as:
Code:
ENG_3349-----------------------------------------------1760-1765 American Self-Assurance
ACTION A from 3 to 2 (2 in v. 1.42)
ENG_3047-----------------------------------------------1765-1765 Tax Revolt in America: Stamp Tax & Tolls
ACTION A from 5 to 3 (3 in v. 1.42)
ACTION B from 10 to 7 (7 in v. 1.42)
ACTION C 5 unchanged (5 in v. 1.42)
ENG_3048-----------------------------------------------1770-1771 The American Colonial Policy: Tea Toll
ACTION A from 6 to 4 ( 3 in v. 1.42)
ACTION B from 16 to 12 ( 8 in v. 1.42)
ACTION C from -10 to -7 (-7 in v. 1.42)
ENG_3049-----------------------------------------------1773-1774 The American Revolution
ACTION A 16 unchanged ( 8 in v. 1.42)
ACTION B from 32 to 28 ( 16 in v. 1.42)
ACTION C from -25 to -18 (-15 in v. 1.42)
ENG_4986-----------------------------------------------1773-1820 The Continental Congress Fails (if USA_4990 B)
ACTION A from -24 to -16 (-12 in v. 1.42)and from here down the current RR% in agceep remains/stays as it is in v.1.51betas:
Code:
ENG_4983-----------------------------------------------1773-1820 The Treaty of Paris
ACTION A -70 (-35 in v. 1.42)
ENG_4984-----------------------------------------------1773-1820 The Treaty of Paris
ACTION A -70 (-35 in v. 1.42)
ENG_4985-----------------------------------------------1773-1820 The Destruction of the Tax Revolt
ACTION A -70 (-35 in v. 1.42)
ENG_3052-----------------------------------------------1790-1791 The North American Union
ACTION A -70 (-35 in v. 1.42)
ENG_4987-----------------------------------------------1785-1790 Colonial dissatisfaction cools
ACTION A -70 (-35 in v. 1.42)and IMHO the line:
Code:
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 104 value = [B]<value>[/B] } #PenobscotENG_3349 *
ENG_3047 A B (not C)
ENG_3048 A B C
ENG_3049 A B C
ENG_4986 *
ENG_4983 *
ENG_4984 *
ENG_4985 *
ENG_3052 *
ENG_4987 *
as that province would represent the northern part of Massachusetts.
And subsequently to be added in all triggers in ENG events 3349 3047 3048 3049 and together with the other NA provinces:
Code:
trigger = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachussetts
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
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Even if I have thought that is was a marginal thing at first, the inclusion of Penobscot (id #104) in the American rebelling provinces needs some tweaking in the formation of groups of provinces to be tested in the triggers of following events:
two province specific events:
the ENG event:
and this line:
should replace this other line:
in all of the 14+14+14 province specific events written for each province rebelling from other European countries.
two province specific events:
Code:
#(1775-1820) Massachusetts Government Act
#by Garbon
event = {
id = 338342
trigger = {
OR = { #must own all of one group or a province from each group + Massachusetts
AND = {
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
}
AND = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
}
}
}
NOT = {
OR = {
flag = philadelphia
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
core = { province = 247 data = -1 } #Anglia (England has its own revolts)
core = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware (USA is obviously exempted)
flag = support_US [COLOR=Yellow]#France, Spain or the Netherlands could be US allies[/COLOR]
}
}
}
random = no
province = 103 [COLOR=Yellow]#Massachussetts[/COLOR]
name = "EVENTNAME338342" #Massachusetts Government Act
desc = "EVENTHIST338342"
#-#
date = { day = 22 month = august year = 1775 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { year = 1820 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME164036A" #America is in open revolt
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = setflag which = boston }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 35 } #Savannah
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 35 } #Carolina
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 35 } #Santee
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 35 } #Roanoke
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 35 } #Chesapeake
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 35 } #Susquehanna
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 35 } #Delaware
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 35 } #Manhattan
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 35 } #Catskill
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 35 } #Adirondak
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 35 } #Sebago
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 35 } #Connecticut
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 35 } #Massachussetts
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 104 value = 35 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
Code:
#(1775-1820) Continental Congress of Pennsylvania
#by Garbon
event = {
id = 338343
trigger = {
OR = { #must own all of one group or a province from each group + [COLOR=Yellow]Delaware[/COLOR]
AND = {
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
AND = {
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
}
AND = {
OR = {
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
}
}
}
NOT = {
OR = {
flag = boston
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
core = { province = 247 data = -1 } #Anglia (England has its own revolts)
core = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware (USA is obviously exempted)
flag = support_US [COLOR=Yellow]#France, Spain or the Netherlands could be US allies[/COLOR]
}
}
}
random = no
province = 86 [COLOR=Yellow]#Delaware[/COLOR]
name = "EVENTNAME338343" #Continental Congress of Pennsylvania
desc = "EVENTHIST338343"
#-#
date = { day = 22 month = august year = 1775 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { year = 1820 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME164036A" #America is in open revolt
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
command = { type = setflag which = philadelphia }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = 35 } #Savannah
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = 35 } #Carolina
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = 35 } #Santee
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = 35 } #Roanoke
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = 35 } #Chesapeake
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = 35 } #Susquehanna
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = 35 } #Delaware
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = 35 } #Manhattan
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = 35 } #Catskill
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = 35 } #Adirondak
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = 35 } #Sebago
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = 35 } #Connecticut
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = 35 } #Massachussetts
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 104 value = 35 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
Code:
#(1775-1820) The Olive Branch Petition
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 164046
trigger = {
[COLOR=Yellow]#England must own at least one province of two combined groups
#(here are 6 combinations using 4 groups of 3-4 provinces of North American East Coast)[/COLOR]
OR = {
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-2[/COLOR]
OR = {
owned = { province = 54 data = ENG } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = ENG } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = ENG } #Santee
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 64 data = ENG } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = ENG } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = ENG } #Susquehanna
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-3[/COLOR]
OR = {
owned = { province = 54 data = ENG } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = ENG } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = ENG } #Santee
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 86 data = ENG } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = ENG } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = ENG } #Catskill
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 102 data = ENG } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-4[/COLOR]
OR = {
owned = { province = 54 data = ENG } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = ENG } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = ENG } #Santee
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 100 data = ENG } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = ENG } #Sebago
[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 102 data = ENG } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
owned = { province = 103 data = ENG } #Massachussetts
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = ENG } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 2-3[/COLOR]
OR = {
owned = { province = 64 data = ENG } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = ENG } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = ENG } #Susquehanna
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 86 data = ENG } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = ENG } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = ENG } #Catskill
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 102 data = ENG } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 2-4[/COLOR]
OR = {
owned = { province = 64 data = ENG } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = ENG } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = ENG } #Susquehanna
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 100 data = ENG } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = ENG } #Sebago
[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 102 data = ENG } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
owned = { province = 103 data = ENG } #Massachussetts
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = ENG } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 3-4[/COLOR]
OR = {
owned = { province = 86 data = ENG } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = ENG } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = ENG } #Catskill
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 102 data = ENG } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
owned = { province = 100 data = ENG } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = ENG } #Sebago
[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 102 data = ENG } #Connecticut[/COLOR]
owned = { province = 103 data = ENG } #Massachussetts
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = ENG } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
}
monarch = 046028 #George III
event = 3049 #ENG: The American Revolution
NOT = {
OR = {
exists = USA
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
}
[COLOR=Yellow]#Rebels must control at least one province of three combined groups
#(here are 20 combinations using 6 groups of 2-3 provinces of North American East Coast)[/COLOR]
OR = {
AND = { #groups 1-2-3
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-2-4[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-2-5[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-2-6[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-3-4[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-3-5[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { #groups 1-3-6
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-4-5[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 1-4-6[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { #groups 1-5-6
OR = {
control = { province = 54 data = REB } #Savannah
control = { province = 62 data = REB } #Carolina
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 2-3-4[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 2-3-5[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { #groups 2-3-6
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 2-4-5[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 2-4-6[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { #groups 2-5-6
OR = {
control = { province = 63 data = REB } #Santee
control = { province = 64 data = REB } #Roanoke
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 3-4-5[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 3-4-6[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { [COLOR=Yellow]#groups 3-5-6[/COLOR]
OR = {
control = { province = 68 data = REB } #Chesapeake
control = { province = 86 data = REB } #Delaware
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
AND = { #groups 4-5-6
OR = {
control = { province = 85 data = REB } #Susquehanna
control = { province = 87 data = REB } #Manhattan
control = { province = 88 data = REB } #Catskill
}
OR = {
control = { province = 100 data = REB } #Adirondak
control = { province = 101 data = REB } #Sebago
[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 104 data = REB } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
OR = {
control = { province = 102 data = REB } #Connecticut
control = { province = 103 data = REB } #Massachussetts
}
}
}
}
random = no
country = ENG
name = "EVENTNAME164046" #The Olive Branch Petition
desc = "EVENTHIST164046"
#-#
date = { day = 22 month = august year = 1775 }
offset = 26
deathdate = { year = 1820 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME164046A" #Proclaim the state of rebellion in the colonies
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = independence which = USA }
command = { type = DIP which = -2 value = 60 }
command = { type = ADM which = -2 value = 60 }
command = { type = trigger which = 324002 } #USA: The American Revolutionary War
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME164046B" #Appease the demands of these 'Patriots'
command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -7 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = -6 }
command = { type = domestic which = LAND value = -3 }
command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -2 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = HOL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 50 }
command = { type = stability value = -3 }
command = { type = treasury value = -1000 }
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = -70 } #Savannah
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = -70 } #Carolina
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = -70 } #Santee
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = -70 } #Roanoke
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = -70 } #Chesapeake
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = -70 } #Susquehanna
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = -70 } #Delaware
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = -70 } #Manhattan
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = -70 } #Catskill
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = -70 } #Adirondak
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = -70 } #Sebago
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = -70 } #Connecticut
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = -70 } #Massachussetts
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 104 value = -70 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
}
}and this line:
Code:
flag = support_US #France, Spain or the Netherlands could be US alliesshould replace this other line:
Code:
flag = support_US #France is US ally (French provice RR already neutralized)in all of the 14+14+14 province specific events written for each province rebelling from other European countries.
And AFAIK France went into war not before May 1778, so the startdate is to be postponed, while the deathdate represents the treaty of Versailles stipulated on September 8th 1783.
#-#The United States of America declared its independence from Britain in 1776. The French monarch decided to support them with monetary and military aid in an attempt to further weaken the British. Unfortunately, the French treasury was already in trouble. The American Revolution bankrupted Louis XVI.
#-#The French provided an enormous amount of financial assistance to the United States during the American Revolution.
But also Spain and the Netherlands joined the war against England, so four new events should be added imo:
EVENTHIST285223;The United States of America declared its independence from Britain in 1776. The Spanish monarch decided to side with France in supporting them with financial and military aid, both naval and land support, in an attempt to further weaken the British. Unlike France, however, Spain refused to recognize the independence of the United States. Spain was not keen on encouraging similar anti-colonial rebellions in the Spanish Empire.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME324003;Spanish Assistance;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST324003;Spain sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Spanish fleet managed to avoid the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST186028;The United States of America declared its independence from Britain in 1776. The Dutch decided to side with France in supporting them with financial an military aid, most of all naval support, in an attempt to further weaken the British.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME324004;Dutch Assistance;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST324004;The Netherlands sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Dutch fleet managed to avoid the the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
EDIT: the sequence has been updated.
Code:
[COLOR=Yellow]#(1778-1783)[/COLOR] The American Revolution
event = {
id = 12099
trigger = {
exists = USA
war = { country = USA country = ENG }
NOT = {
[COLOR=Yellow]war = { country = USA country = FRA }
alliance = { country = ENG country = FRA }[/COLOR]
OR = {
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
[COLOR=Yellow]AND = { #France shouldn't own any of the rebelling provinces
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot
}[/COLOR]
}
event = 3049 #ENG: The American Revolution
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "EVENTNAME12099" #The American Revolution
desc = "EVENTHIST12099"
#-#
[COLOR=Yellow]date = { day = 5 month = february year = 1778 } #from 1 jan 1776
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 2 month = september year = 1783 } #from 29 dec 1780[/COLOR]
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099A" #Support the United States
command = { type = cash value = -2000 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -150 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = USA value = 150 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = ENG value = 24 }
command = { type = warships which = -4 value = 10 }
command = { type = INF which = -4 value = 10000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -3 value = 5000 }
command = { type = ART which = -3 value = 5 }[/COLOR]
command = { type = setflag which = support_US }
[COLOR=Red]command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = -70 } #Savannah
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = -70 } #Carolina
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = -70 } #Santee
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = -70 } #Roanoke
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = -70 } #Chesapeake
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = -70 } #Susquehanna
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = -70 } #Delaware
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = -70 } #Manhattan
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = -70 } #Catskill
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = -70 } #Adirondak
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = -70 } #Sebago
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = -70 } #Connecticut
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = -70 } #Massachusetts
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 104 value = -70 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
command = { type = trigger which = 324001 } #USA: French Assistance
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099B" #Live and Let Die
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 50 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = sleepevent which = 285223 } #SPA: The American Revolution
command = { type = sleepevent which = 186028 } #HOL: The American Revolution[/COLOR]
} [COLOR=Red]#Some French colonies on the Atlantic Coast will join the American Revolution[/COLOR]
}
Code:
[COLOR=Yellow]#(1778-1783)[/COLOR] French Assistance [COLOR=Red](USA Event)[/COLOR]
event = {
id = 324001 #triggered by FRA_12099
random = no
country = USA
name = "EVENTNAME324001" French Assistance
desc = "EVENTHIST324001"
#-#
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME40116A" #Excellent!
command = { type = cash value = 1000 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = INF which = -1 value = 10000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -3 value = 5000 }
command = { type = ART which = -3 value = 5 }[/COLOR]
}
}But also Spain and the Netherlands joined the war against England, so four new events should be added imo:
Code:
#(1779-1783) The American Revolution
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 285223
trigger = {
monarch = 0127515 #Carlos III
exists = USA
war = { country = USA country = ENG }
NOT = {
war = { country = USA country = SPA }
war = { country = FRA country = SPA }
alliance = { country = ENG country = SPA }
OR = {
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
AND = { #Spain shouldn't own any of the rebelling provinces
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot
}
}
event = 3049 #ENG: The American Revolution
event = 12099 #FRA: The American Revolution
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME12099" #The American Revolution
desc = "EVENTHIST285223"
#-#
date = { day = 21 month = june year = 1779 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 2 month = september year = 1783 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099A" #Support the United States
command = { type = cash value = -500 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -150 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = ENG value = 24 }
command = { type = warships which = -4 value = 15 }
command = { type = INF which = -4 value = 10000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -3 value = 5000 }
command = { type = ART which = -3 value = 5 }
command = { type = setflag which = support_US }
command = { type = trigger which = 324003 } #USA: Spanish Assistance
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099B" #Live and Let Die
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 50 }
}
}
Code:
#(1779-1783) Spanish Assistance
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 324003 #triggered by SPA_285223
random = no
country = USA
name = "EVENTNAME324003" Spanish Assistance
desc = "EVENTHIST324003"
#-#
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME40116A" #Excellent!
command = { type = cash value = 300 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 10 }
command = { type = INF which = -1 value = 5000 }
}
}EVENTHIST324003;Spain sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Spanish fleet managed to avoid the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
Code:
#(1780-1783) The American Revolution
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 186028
trigger = {
exists = USA
war = { country = USA country = ENG }
NOT = {
war = { country = FRA country = HOL }
war = { country = USA country = HOL }
alliance = { country = ENG country = HOL }
OR = {
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
AND = { #The Netherlands shouldn't own any of the rebelling provinces
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot
}
}
event = 3049 #ENG: The American Revolution
event = 12099 #FRA: The American Revolution
}
random = no
country = HOL
name = "EVENTNAME12099" #The American Revolution
desc = "EVENTHIST186028"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1780 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 2 month = september year = 1783 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099A" #Support the United States
command = { type = cash value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -150 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = ENG value = 24 }
command = { type = warships which = -4 value = 10 }
command = { type = setflag which = support_US }
command = { type = trigger which = 324004 } #USA: Dutch Assistance
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099B" #Live and Let Die
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 50 }
}
}
Code:
#(1780-1783) Dutch Assistance
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 324004 #triggered by HOL_186028
random = no
country = USA
name = "EVENTNAME324004" #Dutch Assistance
desc = "EVENTHIST324004"
#-#
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME40116A" #Excellent!
command = { type = cash value = 100 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 5 }
command = { type = INF which = -1 value = 5000 }
}
}EVENTHIST324004;The Netherlands sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Dutch fleet managed to avoid the the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
EDIT: the sequence has been updated.
Last edited:
I agree. However I would put the startdate at the start of the rebellion date, as help was provided under cover from the beginning:Bordic said:
EVENTHIST285223;To the Spanish monarchy, the American war of independence was an oportunity to recover the loses to Britain in the Nine Years War. However opposition to the war within the government and concerns in supporting a colonial rebellion, delayed the entrance of Spain in the war. Cautiously, Spain decided to support the rebels under cover, providing guns, supplies and money. The money was provided through the French government, who conveniently forgot to inform about its origen to the rebels. Meanwhile, preparations for a likely war proceed and Bernardo de Gálvez assambled an army in Louisiana.;;;;;;;;;;
I would also add a second event, slept in option b of this one, that in case France and USA are at war with Great Britain, Spain should also declare war. It is an oportunistic war after all. This one would have the 1779 startdate.
Mainly the problem here is more related to French, Dutch or Spanish presence in East Coast, both because of ahistorical colonization and because of ENG provinces defecteng to neighbouring provinces such as the French ones, etc...Fodoron said:
In this case in doing several tests I always see these events won't fire or will fire very rarely.
So I would suggest the use of this trick, a potential USA defecting or being released by Britain will provoke the events scripted for each of the 14 provinces in case of war between USA and ENG, in that case the catholic provinces will revolt (27% RR) and the protestant/reformed one directly defect to USA. In that way these events could fire anyway, but they would be very sensed as a nation losing a province to USA won't help USA to get other provinces from ENG, but DOW USA in order to get them back...
The idea to let the three events fire/have a startdate in 1773 is good, so do you suggest to split the three events (FRA-SPA-HOL) into two events, the first giving money and troops (ie the corresponding USA events will be triggered!) and the second getting a CB and worsening relations to ENG.
About the event description you gave, is the 9 years war the equivalent of 7 years war? And another question, should we describe that Galvez was assemblying troops in Louisiana , while it is very rarely in Spanish hands in the game? Better Wichita or Everglades or the neigbouring coastal provinces generally colonized by Spain in the Gulf of Mexico? it is very random I know, that is why I have suggested a -4 province for troops and ships...
I believe the text for the second event should be different and explain the conduct of war or a part of it, no?
Well about the Netherlands the question is a bit harder, should they receive both events (financing USA and then DOW Britain) or just the second one?
You say the second Spanish event should check if France and USA are at war with Britain, very difficult in my opinion...
In case should the Netherlands have them both at war or just USA and ENG?
EUROPEAN INVOLVEMENT IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION: I have reedited the French event and added two new events for Spain and one for Netherlands and the USA answers to their supports. As major condition for these events to fire is that the European powers invovled in this conflict cannot own any colony on the East Coast.
#-----------
# FRANCE
#-----------
#-#The United States of America declared their independence from Britain in 1776. The French monarch decided to support them with financial and military aid in an attempt to further weaken the British. Unfortunately, the French treasury was already in trouble. The American Revolution bankrupted Louis XVI.
#-#The French provided an enormous amount of financial assistance to the United States during the American Revolution.
#-----------
# SPAIN
#-----------
EVENTHIST285240;To the Spanish monarchy, the American war of independence was an opportunity to recover the losses to Britain in the Seven Years War. However opposition to the war within the government and concerns in supporting a colonial rebellion, delayed the entrance of Spain in the war. Cautiously, Spain decided to support the rebels under cover, providing guns, supplies and money. The money was provided through the French government, who conveniently forgot to inform about its origin to the rebels. Meanwhile, preparations for a likely war proceed and Bernardo de Gálvez assambled an army in Louisiana.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME285241;A good opportunity in North America;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST285241;The United States of America declared their independence from Britain in 1776. After some years of supporting the American Patriots under cover, the Spanish monarchy formally declared war to the King of England. One of the greatest impacts of the Spanish navy in that war was keeping the British in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico from reinforcing their land troops. Unlike France, however, Spain refused to recognize the independence of the United States. Spain was not keen on encouraging similar anti-colonial rebellions in the Spanish Empire.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME324003;Spanish Assistance;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST324003;Spain sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Spanish fleet managed to avoid the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
#-----------------------
THE NETHERLANDS
#-----------------------
EVENTHIST186028;The United States of America declared their independence from Britain in 1776. In 1780, the British struck against the United Provinces of the Netherlands in order to preempt Dutch involvement in the League of Armed Neutrality, a declaration of several European powers granting neutral trade during the war. Great Britain was not willing to allow the Netherlands to openly give aid to the American rebels. Agitation by Dutch radicals and a friendly attitude towards the United States by the Dutch government — both influenced by the American Revolution — also encouraged the British to attack. The Fourth Anglo-Dutch War lasted into 1784 and was disastrous to the Dutch mercantile economy. The Dutch decided to side with France in supporting them with financial an military aid, most of all naval support, in an attempt to further weaken the British.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME324004;Dutch Assistance;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST324004;The Netherlands sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Dutch fleet managed to avoid the the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
for comments...
#-----------
# FRANCE
#-----------
Code:
[COLOR=Yellow]#(1773-1783)[/COLOR] The American Revolution
event = {
id = 12099
trigger = {
exists = USA
war = { country = USA country = ENG }
NOT = {
[COLOR=Yellow]war = { country = USA country = FRA }
alliance = { country = ENG country = FRA }[/COLOR]
OR = {
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
[COLOR=Yellow]AND = { #France shouldn't own any of the rebelling provinces
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot
}[/COLOR]
}
event = 3049 #ENG: The American Revolution
}
random = no
country = FRA
name = "EVENTNAME12099" #The American Revolution
desc = "EVENTHIST12099"
#-#
[COLOR=Yellow]date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1774 } #from 1776
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 0 month = september year = 1783 } #from 29 dec 1780[/COLOR]
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099A" #Support the United States
command = { type = cash value = -2000 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -150 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = USA value = 150 }[/COLOR]
command = { type = setflag which = support_US }
[COLOR=Red]command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 54 value = -70 } #Savannah
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 62 value = -70 } #Carolina
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 63 value = -70 } #Santee
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 64 value = -70 } #Roanoke
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 68 value = -70 } #Chesapeake
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 85 value = -70 } #Susquehanna
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 86 value = -70 } #Delaware
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 87 value = -70 } #Manhattan
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 88 value = -70 } #Catskill
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 100 value = -70 } #Adirondak
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 101 value = -70 } #Sebago
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 102 value = -70 } #Connecticut
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 103 value = -70 } #Massachusetts
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 104 value = -70 } #Penobscot[/COLOR]
command = { type = trigger which = 324001 } #USA: French Assistance
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099B" #Live and Let Die
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 50 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = sleepevent which = 285240 } #SPA: The American Revolution
command = { type = sleepevent which = 186028 } #HOL: The American Revolution[/COLOR][/COLOR]
} [COLOR=Red]#Some French colonies on the Atlantic Coast will join the American Revolution[/COLOR]
}
Code:
[COLOR=Yellow]#(1773-1783)[/COLOR] French Assistance [COLOR=Red](USA Event)[/COLOR]
event = {
id = 324001 #triggered by FRA_12099
random = no
country = USA
name = "EVENTNAME324001" French Assistance
desc = "EVENTHIST324001"
#-#
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME40116A" #Excellent!
command = { type = cash value = 1000 }
[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = INF which = -1 value = 10000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -3 value = 5000 }
command = { type = ART which = -3 value = 5 }[/COLOR]
}
}#-----------
# SPAIN
#-----------
Code:
#(1773-1783) The American Revolution
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 285240
trigger = {
monarch = 0127515 #Carlos III
exists = USA
war = { country = USA country = ENG }
NOT = {
war = { country = USA country = SPA }
war = { country = FRA country = SPA }
alliance = { country = ENG country = SPA }
OR = {
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
AND = { #Spain shouldn't own any of the rebelling provinces
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot
}
}
event = 3049 #ENG: The American Revolution
event = 12099 #FRA: The American Revolution
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME12099" #The American Revolution
desc = "EVENTHIST285240"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1774 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = september year = 1783 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099A" #Support the United States
command = { type = cash value = -500 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -150 }
command = { type = setflag which = support_US }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099B" #Live and Let Die
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 50 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 285241 } #SPA: A good opportunity in North America
}
}EVENTHIST285240;To the Spanish monarchy, the American war of independence was an opportunity to recover the losses to Britain in the Seven Years War. However opposition to the war within the government and concerns in supporting a colonial rebellion, delayed the entrance of Spain in the war. Cautiously, Spain decided to support the rebels under cover, providing guns, supplies and money. The money was provided through the French government, who conveniently forgot to inform about its origin to the rebels. Meanwhile, preparations for a likely war proceed and Bernardo de Gálvez assambled an army in Louisiana.;;;;;;;;;;
Code:
#(1779-1783) A good opportunity in North America
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 285241
trigger = {
event = 285240 #SPA: The American Revolution
monarch = 0127515 #Carlos III
exists = USA
war = { country = USA country = ENG }
war = { country = FRA country = ENG }
NOT = {
war = { country = USA country = SPA }
war = { country = FRA country = SPA }
alliance = { country = ENG country = SPA }
OR = {
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
AND = { #Spain shouldn't own any of the rebelling provinces
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot
}
}
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME285241" #A good opportunity in North America
desc = "EVENTHIST285241"
#-#
date = { day = 21 month = june year = 1779 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 2 month = september year = 1783 }
action_a = {
name = "OK"
command = { type = relation which = USA value = 100 }
command = { type = casusbelli which = ENG value = 24 }
command = { type = warships which = -4 value = 15 }
command = { type = INF which = -4 value = 10000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -3 value = 5000 }
command = { type = ART which = -3 value = 5 }
command = { type = trigger which = 324003 } #USA: Spanish Assistance
}
}EVENTHIST285241;The United States of America declared their independence from Britain in 1776. After some years of supporting the American Patriots under cover, the Spanish monarchy formally declared war to the King of England. One of the greatest impacts of the Spanish navy in that war was keeping the British in the Caribbean and Gulf of Mexico from reinforcing their land troops. Unlike France, however, Spain refused to recognize the independence of the United States. Spain was not keen on encouraging similar anti-colonial rebellions in the Spanish Empire.;;;;;;;;;;
Code:
#(1779-1783) Spanish Assistance
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 324003 #triggered by SPA_285241
random = no
country = USA
name = "EVENTNAME324003" Spanish Assistance
desc = "EVENTHIST324003"
#-#
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME40116A" #Excellent!
command = { type = cash value = 300 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 10 }
command = { type = INF which = -1 value = 5000 }
}
}EVENTHIST324003;Spain sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Spanish fleet managed to avoid the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
#-----------------------
THE NETHERLANDS
#-----------------------
Code:
#(1780-1783) The American Revolution
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 186028
trigger = {
exists = USA
war = { country = USA country = ENG }
war = { country = FRA country = ENG }
NOT = {
war = { country = USA country = HOL }
OR = {
event = 4983 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (USA has won)
event = 4984 #ENG: The Treaty of Paris (ENG has lost territories)
event = 4985 #ENG: The Destruction of the Tax Revolt (ENG has won, no USA)
event = 3052 #ENG: The North American Union (no USA, FRA radical republic)
event = 4987 #ENG: Colonial dissatisfaction cools (no USA, patch event reducing RR)
}
AND = { #The Netherlands shouldn't own any of the rebelling provinces
owned = { province = 54 data = -1 } #Savannah
owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
owned = { province = 63 data = -1 } #Santee
owned = { province = 64 data = -1 } #Roanoke
owned = { province = 68 data = -1 } #Chesapeake
owned = { province = 85 data = -1 } #Susquehanna
owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
owned = { province = 87 data = -1 } #Manhattan
owned = { province = 88 data = -1 } #Catskill
owned = { province = 100 data = -1 } #Adirondak
owned = { province = 101 data = -1 } #Sebago
owned = { province = 102 data = -1 } #Connecticut
owned = { province = 103 data = -1 } #Massachusetts
owned = { province = 104 data = -1 } #Penobscot
}
}
event = 3049 #ENG: The American Revolution
event = 12099 #FRA: The American Revolution
}
random = no
country = HOL
name = "EVENTNAME12099" #The American Revolution
desc = "EVENTHIST186028"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1780 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 2 month = september year = 1783 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099A" #Support the United States
command = { type = cash value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = USA value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -150 }
command = { type = warships which = -4 value = 10 }
command = { type = setflag which = support_US }
command = { type = trigger which = 324004 } #USA: Dutch Assistance
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME12099B" #Live and Let Die
command = { type = relation which = USA value = -100 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 50 }
}
}
Code:
#(1780-1783) Dutch Assistance
#by Bordic
event = {
id = 324004 #triggered by HOL_186028
random = no
country = USA
name = "EVENTNAME324004" #Dutch Assistance
desc = "EVENTHIST324004"
#-#
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME40116A" #Excellent!
command = { type = cash value = 100 }
command = { type = warships which = -1 value = 5 }
command = { type = INF which = -1 value = 5000 }
}
}EVENTHIST324004;The Netherlands sided with France in supporting the United States during the American Revolution, providing both financial and military aid. The Dutch fleet managed to avoid the the British Navy from reinforcing His Majesty's land troops which were fighting against the rebelling colonists in the Northern American mainland.;;;;;;;;;;
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You mean about France, Spain or the Netherlands owning any colony on the NA East Coast? Well, if any of these countries still had some colonies there, do we believe they would have helped the US in the same way as they did IRL?Garbon said:
My opinion is that they probably would remain neutral...
Bordic said:
I don't know about the Dutch, but considering that it was only after the 7 year's war that the Spanish and French lost colonies in the area, it seems rather likely to me that should they colonize in the area, Spain and France will probably still have their colonies..and so this change would make it less likely that the U.S. gets any help. I'm also not sure why, if they wouldn't be willing to help out if they owned one of the "American" provinces, why they'd still be willing to help out if they had a colony say in Florida or Louisiana (which of course, they didn't historically).
I think this part of the trigger is wrong. The OR is useless (if I understand correctly that none of the five events should have fired), and the AND will make the event not WAD (if I understand correctly that none of the listed provinces should be owned).Bordic said:
Maybe changing the triggers of the events above from checking the ownership of historical rebelling provinces with a simpler "NOT neighbour USA" as to avoid French and Spanish colonies to be in contact with American rebels?Garbon said:
Considering the province specific events which increase the RR in case of catholic religion and the immediate secession in case of reformed/protestant religion I see it that France and Spain won't tolerate any "American patriotic" involvement in their Atlantic colonies to the north of Florida.