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Norrefeldt said:
Some comments: Why not use the discovered trigger that seems to be working? Then the events would be triggered by any European discovering the province. Historically it didn't take a nearby settlement to spread the plagues, the natives of todays southern US were heavily reduced when the Europeans came. The diseases had already spread within the native populations from Mexiko. Shouldn't the start date be much earlier, since as soon as the Europeans came it should fire, even if the year is only 1495? As it is now a European nation can conquer the province, and never get the event. :confused:
Well i think the discover trigger works for everyone, not just europeans, so China and Aztecs.

IE it works as though if said country has discovered that province id.
 
New Reference Post for Submission Thread

Ok, here are the new events with Norrefeldt's suggestion. I don't know how the discovery thingy works in terms of who 'discovery' refers to. If it refers to the NA tribes as well then we can't use it.

Also I'm going to include in this post the request to merge the 'Huron' and 'Iroquois' cultures into 'Iroquoian', and subsequently post this in the submissions thread if no one objects within a few days or so. Cherokee culture will remain independent, for now, due to larger differences in language classification.

EDIT: As posted in the bug thread (see; post #26 and post #37 of the 1.37 BUG LIST thread) the events below have been fixed. This edited post will serve as the new reference post for bugs related to these events posted in the bug thread.

#############################
#North American Native Dispersion Events#
#############################

#Native Dispersion in Yazoo

event = {
id = 2500052
random = no
province = 52
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Yazoo"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 52 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 52 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 52 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 52 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 52 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Savannah

event = {
id = 2500054
random = no
province = 54
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Savannah"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 54 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 54 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 54 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 54 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 54 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Alabama

event = {
id = 2500055
random = no
province = 55
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Alabama"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 55 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 55 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 55 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 55 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 55 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Tennessee

event = {
id = 2500056
random = no
province = 56
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Tennessee"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 56 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 56 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 56 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 56 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 56 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Miamis

event = {
id = 2500060
random = no
province = 60
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Miamis"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 60 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 60 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 60 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 60 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 60 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Carolina

event = {
id = 2500062
random = no
province = 62
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Carolina"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 62 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 62 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 62 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 62 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 62 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Santee

event = {
id = 2500063
random = no
province = 63
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Santee"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 63 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 63 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 63 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 63 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 63 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Roanoke

event = {
id = 2500064
random = no
province = 64
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Roanoke"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 64 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 64 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 64 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 64 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 64 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Appalache

event = {
id = 2500066
random = no
province = 66
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Appalache"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 66 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 66 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 66 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 66 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 66 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Kentucky

event = {
id = 2500067
random = no
province = 67
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Kentucky"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 67 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 67 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 67 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 67 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 67 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Chesapeake

event = {
id = 2500068
random = no
province = 68
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Chesapeake"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 68 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 68 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 68 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 68 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 68 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Powhatan

event = {
id = 2500069
random = no
province = 69
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Powhatan"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 69 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 69 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 69 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 69 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 69 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Shenanhoah

event = {
id = 2500070
random = no
province = 70
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Shenanhoah"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 70 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 70 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 70 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 70 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 70 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Erie

event = {
id = 2500071
random = no
province = 71
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Erie"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 71 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 71 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 71 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 71 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 71 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Hindua

event = {
id = 2500072
random = no
province = 72
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Michilmakt"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 72 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 72 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 72 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 72 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 72 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Fox

event = {
id = 2500073
random = no
province = 73
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Fox"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 73 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 73 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 73 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 73 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 73 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Michilmakt

event = {
id = 2500081
random = no
province = 81
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Michilmakt"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 81 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 81 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 81 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 81 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 81 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Detroit

event = {
id = 2500082
random = no
province = 82
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Detroit"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 82 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 82 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 82 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 82 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 82 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Irondekoit

event = {
id = 2500083
random = no
province = 83
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Irondekoit"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 83 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 83 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 83 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 83 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 83 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Tuscarora

event = {
id = 2500084
random = no
province = 84
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Tuscarora"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 84 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 84 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 84 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 84 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 84 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Susquebanna

event = {
id = 2500085
random = no
province = 85
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Susquebanna"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 85 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 85 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 85 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 85 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 85 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Delaware

event = {
id = 2500086
random = no
province = 86
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Delaware"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 86 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 86 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 86 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 86 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 86 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Manhattan

event = {
id = 2500087
random = no
province = 87
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Manhattan"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 87 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 87 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 87 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 87 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 87 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Catskill

event = {
id = 2500088
random = no
province = 88
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Catskill"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 88 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 88 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 88 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 88 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 88 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Oswego

event = {
id = 2500089
random = no
province = 89
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Oswego"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 89 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 89 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 89 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 89 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 89 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Mohawk

event = {
id = 2500090
random = no
province = 90
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Mohawk"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 90 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 90 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 90 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 90 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 90 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Onondaga

event = {
id = 2500091
random = no
province = 91
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Onondaga"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 91 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 91 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 91 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 91 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 91 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Niagara

event = {
id = 2500092
random = no
province = 92
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Niagara"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 92 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 92 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 92 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 92 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 92 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Nipigon

event = {
id = 2500095
random = no
province = 95
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Nipigon"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 95 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 95 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 95 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 95 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 95 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Nipissing

event = {
id = 2500096
random = no
province = 96
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Nipissing"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 96 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 96 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 96 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 96 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 96 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Oshawa

event = {
id = 2500097
random = no
province = 97
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Oshawa"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 97 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 97 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 97 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 97 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 97 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Niagara

event = {
id = 2500098
random = no
province = 98
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Niagara"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 98 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 98 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 98 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 98 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 98 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Ticonderoga

event = {
id = 2500099
random = no
province = 99
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Ticonderoga"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 99 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 99 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 99 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 99 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 99 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Adirondak

event = {
id = 2500100
random = no
province = 100
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Adirondak"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 100 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 100 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 100 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 100 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 100 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Sebago

event = {
id = 2500101
random = no
province = 101
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Sebago"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 101 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 101 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 101 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 101 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 101 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Connecticut

event = {
id = 2500102
random = no
province = 102
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Connecticut"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 102 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 102 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 102 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 102 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 102 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Massachussetts

event = {
id = 2500103
random = no
province = 103
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Massachussetts"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 103 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 103 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 103 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 103 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 103 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Hochelaga

event = {
id = 2500106
random = no
province = 106
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Hochelaga"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 106 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 106 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 106 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 106 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 106 }
}
}

#Native Dispersion in Ottawa

event = {
id = 2500107
random = no
province = 107
trigger = {
NOT = {
continent = america
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Native Dispersion in Ottawa"
desc = "As Europeans annexed huge swathes of land previously occupied by the great Native American Confederacies, the vast majority of local natives either fled to friendlier territories or unoccupied lands further inland."

action_a = {
name = "It's ours ! All ours !"
command = { type = population which = 107 value = -20000 }
command = { type = fortress which = 107 value = -2 }
command = { type = losemanufactory which = 107 }
command = { type = provinceculture which = 107 value = -1 }
command = { type = conversion which = 107 }
}
}

#END COPY

#Foriegn Diseases Events#

#BEGIN COPY

#Cherokee Nation Events: 145000 - 145999

#European Disease

event = {
id = 145000
random = no
country = CHE
trigger = {
OR = {
neighbour = ENG
neighbour = FRA
neighbour = HOL
neighbour = POR
neighbour = SCO
neighbour = SPA
neighbour = SWE
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 1000
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Foreign Diseases Spread Throughout Our Settlements"
desc = "The Native American Woodland tribes of North Eastern America were virtually defenceless against the various microbes and viruses the Europeans brought to the lands they called 'the New World'. Typhoid, small pox, influenza and even the common cold, to name but a few, thinned native populations and ravaged the stability of the native american society. It was a turbulent time for all who witnessed such destruction and few, if any at all, would escape the ramafications. "

action_a = {
name = "Mourning War !"
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = population which = -2 value = -10000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 5 }
command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
}
}

#Huron Confederacy Events: 189000 - 189999

#European Disease

event = {
id = 189000
random = no
country = HUR
trigger = {
OR = {
neighbour = ENG
neighbour = FRA
neighbour = HOL
neighbour = POR
neighbour = SCO
neighbour = SPA
neighbour = SWE
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 1000
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Foreign Diseases Spread Throughout Our Settlements"
desc = "The Native American Woodland tribes of North Eastern America were virtually defenceless against the various microbes and viruses the Europeans brought to the lands they called 'the New World'. Typhoid, small pox, influenza and even the common cold, to name but a few, thinned native populations and ravaged the stability of the native american society. It was a turbulent time for all who witnessed such destruction and few, if any at all, would escape the ramafications. "

action_a = {
name = "Mourning War !"
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = population which = -2 value = -10000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 5 }
command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
}
}

#Iroquois Confederacy Events: 246000 - 246999

#European Disease

event = {
id = 246000
random = no
country = OHI
trigger = {
OR = {
neighbour = ENG
neighbour = FRA
neighbour = HOL
neighbour = POR
neighbour = SCO
neighbour = SPA
neighbour = SWE
}
}
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
offset = 1000
deathdate = { day = 31 month = december year = 1820 }

name = "Foreign Diseases Spread Throughout Our Settlements"
desc = "The Native American Woodland tribes of North Eastern America were virtually defenceless against the various microbes and viruses the Europeans brought to the lands they called 'the New World'. Typhoid, small pox, influenza and even the common cold, to name but a few, thinned native populations and ravaged the stability of the native american society. It was a turbulent time for all who witnessed such destruction and few, if any at all, would escape the ramafications. "

action_a = {
name = "Mourning War !"
command = { type = stability value = -4 }
command = { type = population which = -2 value = -10000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = population which = -1 value = -3000 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -2 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = provincetax which = -1 value = -1 }
command = { type = revoltrisk which = 24 value = 5 }
command = { type = domestic which = offensive value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
}
}
 
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As been reported we have a problem with the discovered trigger, that will trigger for evey human, no matter what country he plays. The european diseases will start when a human played NA Indian discovers the province.
We need some way of triggering an event for every European or Asian. We can do it with "neighbor", and just list a lot of possible neighbors, and thereby excluing players that play other normally unlikely nations. Not very much better than what we have now IMO.

My first idea is to test if we can make a huge event (those that happen for all) but that only triggers for non american nations that are neighbour with one american state. That event would start the disease events then. Needs testing and might not work.

Another possibility would be to make events for each bordering western provinces, that only triggers invisibly upon discovery if owned by Europeans/Asians or if a late year (1600?) have passed. They would in turn trigger the Indian disease events. They should all go off by a late year, in case a player can hold off the foreigners at the coast.

If the NA indians are player by a human, there should be an event for him that lose a lot of population in all provinces, in case he has colonised the continent it would be weird to have just six provinces reduced.
 
We'll go the neighbour route and use one event for each NA tag to compensate for the longer trigger.

Feel free to post tags that can be added to the neighbour list.

I've also expanded the Dipsersion set to include many many more provinces, and given it a numbering sequence that accords to the province #, to make things easier to reference, and to leave room for expansion.
 
I like Norrfeldt's idea of an event for the neighboring country that starts the process. If want to be mean to the NAs we could even add some "Here's some nice blankets" events for England that kill more people yet again.
 
the neighbouring country 'starting it all' idea would require province events for provinces all around the NA starting locations, and would require three sets, one for each potential NA tag neighbour.

EDIT: in other words, we'd have about 3 times the number of dispersion events.
 
sturmvogel said:
I had this event happen twice to me as Portugal in 1.39 (Mac) when I put level one colonies in Manhattan and Roanoke. This event dropped their population by 2000+, dropped the fort level and converted the province to my culture and religion. Given that these were only colonies, this even makes no sense as there's nothing to change.

I couldn't locate the event so I couldn't see what triggered it or any of the details.

This needs to be addressed.

Jason
It seem like a strange setup, and I don't know what was intended. As far as I remeber it, they should reduce the population of formerly held Native lands, but they now also trigger for several provinces outside the native nations. The only way these areas can habitated is if some indian is played by a human that manage to colonise, otherwise they will only happen to poor European colonisers, and the AI have enough problem as it is.
I hope to get ribbon22 to comment here, since there might be something behind it that I have forgotten.
Ideally, they should trigger if a formerly Indian held province becomes European, but I cannot think of an easy way to do this, and it's really a special case, that we could leave aside. A human indian wont let the Europeans come and take the provinces in the first place. :)

I think this could be fixed by just having the events for the original six native provinces.
 
Norrefeldt said:
I think this could be fixed by just having the events for the original six native provinces.
Indian nations are not the same in all scenarios. Maybe a global check is needed here...

sturmvogel said:
I don't think I've ever seen the regular events triggered. What file are they in?

Jason
AGCEEP_Global_ProvinceSpec.eue in AGCEEP/Events
 
I just had this happen to me when I annexed Appalache from the Cherokee. This is far more reasonable when it happens to an existing settled province than it was when it triggered for my colonies in Delaware and Roanoke. My only question now is that it almost seems too easy for me as the culture and religion are now mine. So I could raise troops there for another campaign immediately :eek:
Why shouldn't I have to convert them as per normal pagans?

Looking at the event it seems to dictate that the fort level be dropped by 3, but Appalache started with a minimal fort and kept it after I annexed it.

Jason
 
sturmvogel said:
I just had this happen to me when I annexed Appalache from the Cherokee. This is far more reasonable when it happens to an existing settled province than it was when it triggered for my colonies in Delaware and Roanoke. My only question now is that it almost seems too easy for me as the culture and religion are now mine. So I could raise troops there for another campaign immediately :eek:
Why shouldn't I have to convert them as per normal pagans?
I don't know but I think it's WaD. That's the way it happened in RL, iirc.

sturmvogel said:
Looking at the event it seems to dictate that the fort level be dropped by 3, but Appalache started with a minimal fort and kept it after I annexed it.
This is a bug in EU2 scripting engine. Loss of population and fortress level decrease should be in reversed order...

Global check is really needed...
 
Well, I discovered it after I had spent money on the missionary and the event took place making me feel like a fool. But it does kind of make sense. After all, native population was basically exterminated and replaced, so no conversion was needed, and the puritans did not like to see indians in their churches.

In any case the events are harmless if the province is empty, and provide a good indication of where those Brits and Dutchs are currently settling even if you don't know the provinces yet, as you can see the events taking place for them.
 
Norrefeldt said:
I hope to get ribbon22 to comment here, since there might be something behind it that I have forgotten.
Yeah, I've been gone for quite some time :eek:o

Natives were exterminated and dispersed. There weren't really any mass conversions with the Dutch or English enterprises. The greatest native religious conversions occurred with French and Spanish (the Catholic zealots).

Those events are designed to cover provinces that are not held by natives at gamestart, in case they decide to expand for some reason.

The trigger needs to be reworked. The dispersion events will fire for Europeans (as designed), but as of now they don't check whether or not a Native nation owned the province beforehand (and there isn't really any *easy* way of doing that...)

Nevertheless, one solution would be to script a set of events for each native nation for each of the provinces; each event would then be used as a trigger check for a corresponding province triggered event which would retain the NOT = { america } trigger.
 
Good to see you here!
ribbon22 said:
Those events are designed to cover provinces that are not held by natives at gamestart, in case they decide to expand for some reason.
AFAIK this can only happen if the Natives are played by humans?

ribbon22 said:
The trigger needs to be reworked. The dispersion events will fire for Europeans (as designed), but as of now they don't check whether or not a Native nation owned the province beforehand (and there isn't really any *easy* way of doing that...)
Yeah, that's really tricky. It cannot even be done with flags.

ribbon22 said:
Nevertheless, one solution would be to script a set of events for each native nation for each of the provinces; each event would then be used as a trigger check for a corresponding province triggered event which would retain the NOT = { america } trigger.
That's possible, if you prefer so. I wouldn't mind not having any events for those provinces that the Native AI cannot reach, since the player will likely not give up many of them and we have left real history far behind anyways.

Any plans to make the Native setup the same in 1520 as in 1419?
 
ribbon22 said:
I don't actually know. I recall hearing weird reports about vast indian empires in NA, but that was long ago.
If they have proper AI files preventing that, we can prevent that and we only need these events for Native owned provinces.