Like I said, while there was push and pull on both sides, the territory the Caliphate of Cordoba considered their 'integral lands' was pretty much inside the territory south of Oporto, Leon, Navarra, and the March of Spain.
Originally posted by NeilJT
Can the culture of Cantabria switch to being Basque if conquored by Navarra, to represent the growing power and influence of the Basques within that state, (I think Navarra has Iberian culture so this shouldn't be too much of a gameplay issue - [unless reconquored by Spain] correct me if I am mistaken).
Originally posted by Jinnai
Portugal should have an evet if it looses control over all 3 of its provinces to Granada to move the capital to one of its African provinces (Canary Islands I say only because they're given in the beginning and close by) or if its late enough move it to brazil.
Originally posted by Garbon
Do we have a precedent for nations that just pack up and flee when they are facing extinction? Should the nobles of Portugal be less willing to flee in the event that Castille take all of Portugals provinces and not Granada?
Besides that too many of these ideas have to much of a gimee! ring to them and too little pain. If we are going to have Granada be able to claim the Caliphate ( ), it needs to suffer large negative effects as well.
Only if Chrisitan ones drop their CB shileds on Granada as its similar circumstance...ie they didn't really like the reconquista very much at the time, so imo they should get CB shields on the historically recongnized borders of the Caliphate, but not the furtherst extent of pre 1031 muslim rule without further events.Originally posted by Garbon
Perhaps, claiming the Caliphate of Cordoba shouldn't automatically give Granada claims on the provinces of Iberia, but rather long term-temp cbs on the Iberian powers, as its doubtful that the local populaces would have just accepted Granada's claims. This way, Granada still must fight for domination of the Iberian provinces, by suffering the revolt risk that is deserved.
Originally posted by Jinnai
Only if Chrisitan ones drop their CB shileds on Granada as its similar circumstance...ie they didn't really like the reconquista very much at the time, so imo they should get CB shields on the historically recongnized borders of the Caliphate, but not the furtherst extent of pre 1031 muslim rule without further events.
Originally posted by Jinnai
But as for moving portugal's captial from Lisbon there was precedant as mentioned, but not only that there is game balance to think of. If they conquer lisbon and canarary islands they can annex portugal and get all its colonies and all its known lands automatically become a naval power, something that granada never was.
Not if we're using your standard..ie the population in Granada would be more heavily and more densly muslim than before the reconquista began (all those refugees).Originally posted by Garbon
Unless it was changed recently, Castile shouldn't have Granada as one of its core provinces. Giving Granada cores on all those provinces, makes it too much of a tea party.
Babur's AmbitionI meant precedent, in that do we have other events that do this? I also fail to see how Portugal moving its capital near the 19th century could be considered a precedent for an event that would likely be triggered in the 15th or 16th centuries...
True, but that doesn't mean balance should be thrown out the windowBTW, game balance isn't really an issue when you realize that all this fantasy would likely only occur with a human player, who is going to become a naval power anyways.
Originally posted by Jinnai
Babur's Ambition
The game does give him vast stretches of CB shields for doing little more than claiming the mantle of Timur and Ghenghis Khan in his attempt to unite the world under his rule.Originally posted by Garbon
I don't recall Babur's Ambition triggering on having lost control of provinces. Besides that, Babur's kingdom in Ferghana was annexed out right, buts its ruler fled to found another kingdom. He didn't flee to other lands under his control, because, he didn't have any other lands under his control.
Originally posted by Jinnai
The game does give him vast stretches of CB shields for doing little more than claiming the mantle of Timur and Ghenghis Khan in his attempt to unite the world under his rule.
He did do a bit more, but not much and its about the same differance, actually less, than we're asking for Granada.
Originally posted by Garbon
Wherein lies the difference between encouraging historical actions and encouraging fantasy.
Originally posted by anti_strunt
And forcing players to simply recreate history is baaad...