Couldn't agree more.Garbon said:
And now the tricky question, for you: should these people be *-ized or °-ized?
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And now the tricky question, for you: should these people be *-ized or °-ized?
Third Angel said:And now the tricky question, for you: should these people be *-ized or °-ized?
I'm still in denial and pretending we don't have that distinction.
Ahistoric explorers (2) / conquistadors (3) for Aragon. All are currently flagged dormant as the events to awake will follow in a bit.
Code:
historicalleader = {
category = explorer
id = { type = 6 id = }
name = "Tristán de Luna y Arellano"
startdate = {
year = 1540
}
deathdate = {
year = 1560
}
location = 429 #Catalonia
rank = 7
movement = 4
fire = 2
shock = 2
siege = 0
dormant = yes
remark = "Founded unsuccessful colony in Florida"
}
historicalleader = {
category = explorer
id = { type = 6 id = }
name = "Gabriel Bosque"
startdate = {
year = 1517
}
deathdate = {
year = 1522
}
rank = 7
movement = 4
fire = 2
shock = 2
siege = 0
dormant = yes
remark = "With Grijalva's 1518 expedition"
}
historicalleader = {
category = conquistador
id = { type = 6 id = }
name = "Cristóbal de Olid"
startdate = {
year = 1518
}
deathdate = {
month = december
year = 1524
}
location = 137 #Havana
rank = 11
movement = 3
fire = 2
shock = 2
siege = 0
dormant = yes
remark = "Conqueror of Honduras"
}
historicalleader = {
category = conquistador
id = { type = 6 id = }
name = "Miguel Díaz de Aux"
startdate = {
year = 1520
}
deathdate = {
month = december
year = 1528
}
rank = 11
movement = 3
fire = 2
shock = 2
siege = 0
dormant = yes
}
historicalleader = {
category = conquistador
id = { type = 6 id = }
name = "Alfons Moreno Díaz"
startdate = {
year = 1554
}
deathdate = {
year = 1558
}
rank = 11
movement = 3
fire = 2
shock = 2
siege = 0
dormant = yes
}
I hadn't even noticed 21053, but I'm not sure that they should be directly linked since Antonelli and Tejada were actually sent to the New World in 1586 before 21053 can even fire. 21038 is actually the first Spanish event in the Drake sequence, not an English eventYodaMaster said:
What do you mean by merge? And, no, Alt-Iberia should have its own text. I was just feeling lazy.YodaMaster said:
o But it seems that I should have a version of 21053 for Alt-Iberia as well as Portugal is equally as unlikely to tolerate English adventurers in the Caribbean as Spain was.
Oups and ok then.sturmvogel said:
Both Spanish and Alt Iberia events in a single post, to ease submission. EDIT: and ease discussion!sturmvogel said:What do you mean by merge? And, no, Alt-Iberia should have its own text. I was just feeling lazy.
Not a bad idea...sturmvogel said:
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About post #2752, shouldn't startdate be before the First wave of Spanish Caribbean fortifications (event 285037 and followings)? Should action_b have an influence on the fortification events?
Proposal:
EVENTHIST285292;In 1586 Felipe II ordered General Juan de Tejeda and Bautista Antonelli to make an inspection of the Caribbean fortifications that had failed to stop Protestant attacks on Spanish holdings and to prepare recommendations for preventing further attacks. Upon their return they advised fortifying only the ports used by the treasure fleets as they were the most likely to be attacked. In November 1588 Felipe accepted their recommendations. Havana was the first port to benefit from the plans drawn up by Antonelli although it would be decades before the new forts were completed.;;;;;;;;;;
Same remark for EVENTHIST260866.
Proposal:
EVENTHIST285292;In 1586 Felipe II ordered General Juan de Tejeda and Bautista Antonelli to make an inspection of the Caribbean fortifications that had failed to stop Protestant attacks on Spanish holdings and to prepare recommendations for preventing further attacks. Upon their return they advised fortifying only the ports used by the treasure fleets as they were the most likely to be attacked. In November 1588 Felipe accepted their recommendations. Havana was the first port to benefit from the plans drawn up by Antonelli although it would be decades before the new forts were completed.;;;;;;;;;;
Same remark for EVENTHIST260866.
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I thought about it, but since the First wave events are AI only, and are pretty key for AI durability against a human, I decided against it.YodaMaster said:
OK, although in my current game of Alt-Iberia England was actually Catholic during the 1570s and so it never fired. It's Reformed now, though.YodaMaster said:
Ok for no effect but what about the date? Why not startdate in 1586 (or even 1585) instead of 1587?sturmvogel said:
Or, at least, AI fortification events could test if this new event just fired before, whatever chosen action. It seems logical.
YodaMaster said:
The dates are historical. They were dispatched in 1586 to make the inspection tour and returned in Sep 1587 to write up their recommendations, which Felipe II accepted in Nov 1588. So 1587 is the earliest that the shift to less offensive could happen.
What's the point of testing for the event for the AI fortification events if it has no effect? Why go to the bother? I understand the logical appeal, but so what?
Just for the logic. Better have the event firing (and visible in the History) before seeing fortifications appearing on the map. No need to post modified events, just the reference to modification of First wave of Spanish Caribbean fortifications (event 285037 and followings) in your proposal.sturmvogel said:
And what about my question for the texts for the Alt Iberia version?
I'd have expected as much from youGarbon said:I'm still in denial and pretending we don't have that distinction.
, and I even agreed with you, only as far as "we need but one distinctive symbol".We should indeed deem ourselves lucky to have at least one reasonable guy around here, Yodamaster that is, to establish a consensus between such obtuse and stubborn people as we are.
It occurs to me that Spain will not receive Aragon's core on Corsica in the unlikely event that it actually gets it. And, of course, the Alt-Iberia equivalent.
EVENTNAME285293;Spain inherits Aragon's core on Corsica;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST285293;Spain inherited Aragon's claim on Corsica.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME260864;Portugal inherits Aragon's core on Corsica;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST260864;Portugal inherited Aragon's claim on Corsica.;;;;;;;;;;
Code:
#Spain inherits Aragon's core on Corsica
#by sturmvogel
event = {
id = 285293
trigger = {
event = 111038 #ARG_Gain of core on Corsica
[COLOR=YellowGreen]NOT = { event = 111002 } #Aragon loses claim to Corsica[/COLOR]
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME285293" #Spain inherits Aragon's core on Corsica
desc = "EVENTHIST285293"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1479 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { year = 1820 }
action_a = {
name = "GREAT"
command = { type = addcore which = 398 } #Corsica
}
}
event = {
id = 260864
trigger = {
[COLOR=YellowGreen]NOT = { event = 111002 } #Aragon loses claim to Corsica[/COLOR]
event = 111038 #ARG_Gain of core on Corsica
event = 260980 #POR: Spread the Word of God Among the Infidels
OR = {
event = 260914 #POR: Portuguese total victory
event = 260979 #POR: Inherit Aragon
}
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME260864" #Portugal inherits Aragon's core on Corsica
desc = "EVENTHIST260864"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1516 }
offset = 1
deathdate = { year = 1820 }
action_a = {
name = "GREAT"
command = { type = addcore which = 398 } #Corsica
}
}EVENTHIST285293;Spain inherited Aragon's claim on Corsica.;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTNAME260864;Portugal inherits Aragon's core on Corsica;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST260864;Portugal inherited Aragon's claim on Corsica.;;;;;;;;;;
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Aragon will lose it by 1461 if it's not owned or controlled by them. But you're right that Spain/Iberia shouldn't get it if Aragon lost it before it merged with either.YodaMaster said:
As dicussed in this thread, proposed semiannual generic Colonists boost events made AI only: all august-december events starting with 285502 (Part I), starting with 285581 (Part II) and starting with 285645 (Part III).
What is there to test? We already know that the player is being spammed with these colonizing events. This won't have any effect on the AI, as the proposed change only makes it so that the player gets less of the colonizing events.
Spelling corrections in POR_3267:
#-#King Afonso was only 6 years old when he became King of Portugal. For the first 8 years of his reign (1438-46) the country was rulesruled well by the Duke of Coimbra in his place. However, after DonDom Afonso had ascended the throne as was customary at the age of 14, intriguingscheming noblemen at the court managed to cast doubts in the young King's mind about the intentions of the duke. The Duke was sent away from the King, but later decided to return to his side and help him rule the country. The Duke, not wanting to leave anything to chance, and in fear of his conspiring enemies at the court, made the bad decision to approach the King accompanied by a force of several dozen soldiers for his own protection. The conspirators however managed to convince the King that his old beloved friend was now trying to start a rebellion against him. The King thus sent out an army to engage the enemy before he arrived. There was no real battle, but the Duke of Coimbra was killed never the less.
#-#King Afonso was only 6 years old when he became King of Portugal. For the first 8 years of his reign (1438-46) the country was rulesruled well by the Duke of Coimbra in his place. However, after DonDom Afonso had ascended the throne as was customary at the age of 14, intriguingscheming noblemen at the court managed to cast doubts in the young King's mind about the intentions of the duke. The Duke was sent away from the King, but later decided to return to his side and help him rule the country. The Duke, not wanting to leave anything to chance, and in fear of his conspiring enemies at the court, made the bad decision to approach the King accompanied by a force of several dozen soldiers for his own protection. The conspirators however managed to convince the King that his old beloved friend was now trying to start a rebellion against him. The King thus sent out an army to engage the enemy before he arrived. There was no real battle, but the Duke of Coimbra was killed never the less.