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Ok. About post #2637, what part goes for army and for navy?sturmvogel said:
POR entries => army
SPA entry => navy
or more?
And just for confirmation:
POR;1stPrimeiro Caçadores
POR;3thTerceiro Caçadores
POR;Sexta Caçadores
Right?
POR;1stPrimeiro Caçadores
POR;3thTerceiro Caçadores
POR;Sexta Caçadores
Right?
With the sequence turning Granada and Gibraltar to Castilian culture, nothing happens if Spain only owns Gibraltar and not Granada itself, even if Granada as country doesn't exist anymore and province is owned by a Christian country.
Involved events are 3150, 285219, 3160 and 3167. Couldn't we have a specific event for Gibraltar as a twin of 3160:
#-#By the mid-16th Century the Morisque population in the former Kingdom of Granada was increasing faster than the Christian population. Coupled with their failure to integrate into the greater Christian society and their nominal allegiance to Christianity they were seen as a threat by the Spanish authorities to the integrity of Christian Spain itself. Their less than covert aid to Muslim raiders and pirates off the coast of Spain only reinforced the fears of the authorities who were already greatly concerned over the rising power of the Muslim Ottoman Turks. Under the leadership of Suleiman the Magnificent the Turks were asserting control over the entire Eastern Mediterranean and threatened Italy and Sicily as well.\n \n For their part the Morisques felt threatened by ever-mounting taxes on the silk trade that furnished the basis for their livelihoods and Spanish challenges to their land titles. They tried to negotiate with the King to resolve their differences, but Felipe II would have nothing to do with their proposals. They responded by revolting on Christmas Eve, 1568. They had a number of early successes, aided by the lack of Spanish troops who'd recently been sent to reinforce the Duke of Alba's forces in the Netherlands as well as aid from their co-religionists in North Africa, but they were eventually overwhelmed by forces led by Don Juan de Austria, half-brother of Felipe II. As punishment the King decreed that they be deported to other provinces of Castile in order to break up the cohesive communities that reinforced their isolation from Christian society. Christian colonists were recruited from Castile to replace the Morisques, although this policy proved to be less than completely successful.
Or just modify this event with an OR condition: Gibraltar owned and Granada not existing? Spain could then see 3167 firing afterwards (and Granada involved if conquered in the meantime):
#-#Felipe II had made plans to expell the Morisques from Spain only a decade after the Alpujarras Revolt was crushed, but the wars against the Dutch and English prevented him from massing the necessary troops and ships. On the day that the 12 Year Truce was signed with the Dutch in 1609 he issued the order for the expulsion. It took some time to gather the necessary resources, but they began later that year. The order fell hardest on Aragon, Valencia and Murcia because they had large numbers of unassimilated Morisques from the earlier stages of the Reconquista. Valencia lost almost a third of its population and Aragon almost a fifth. But Felipe III and his advisors thought this was a cheap price to pay for cleansing Spain of its hated minority and to reassert the power and prestige of the Crown, both badly damaged by its defeats by the Protestant heretics.
But if Granada is not owned at this time, it will be too late for a culture conversion and Granada province will only suffer nationalism and not permanent RR+2 if action_b chosen in SPA_3160.
Involved events are 3150, 285219, 3160 and 3167. Couldn't we have a specific event for Gibraltar as a twin of 3160:
Code:
#(1566-1591) The Purge of the Morisques
event = {
id = 3160
trigger = {
owned = { province = 444 data = SPA } #Granada
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME3160" #The Purge of the Morisques
desc = "EVENTHIST3160"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1566 }
offset = 900
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1591 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3160A" #Force them to become Good Catholic Spaniards
command = { type = revolt which = 444 } #Granada
command = { type = revolt which = 444 } #Granada
command = { type = population which = 444 value = -1000 } #Granada
command = { type = provincereligion which = 444 value = catholic } #Granada
command = { type = provincereligion which = 445 value = catholic } #Gibraltar
command = { type = provinceculture which = 444 value = iberian } #Granada
command = { type = provinceculture which = 445 value = iberian } #Gibraltar
command = { type = stability value = 1 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 444 value = -1 } #Granada
command = { type = provincetax which = 445 value = -1 } #Gibraltar
command = { type = treasury value = 100 } #Profits from confiscations, etc.
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3160B" #Let them be as they are needed for the economy
command = { type = revolt which = 444 } #Granada
command = { type = revolt which = 444 } #Granada
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 444 value = 2 } #Granada
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 445 value = 2 } #Gibraltar
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 2 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
command = { type = treasury value = 100 } #Donations to leave them be
}
}Or just modify this event with an OR condition: Gibraltar owned and Granada not existing? Spain could then see 3167 firing afterwards (and Granada involved if conquered in the meantime):
Code:
#(1582-1614) The Expulsion of the Morisques
event = {
id = 3167
trigger = {
event = 3160
atwar = no
}
random = no
country = SPA
name = "EVENTNAME3167" #The Expulsion of the Morisques
desc = "EVENTHIST3167"
#-#
date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1582 }
offset = 360
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1614 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3167A" #Expel the Infidels!
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -2 }
command = { type = population which = 440 value = -1000 } #Estramadura
command = { type = population which = 437 value = -11000 } #Valencia
command = { type = population which = 430 value = -6000 } #Aragon
command = { type = population which = 436 value = -1000 } #Castilla
command = { type = population which = 443 value = -3000 } #Andalusia
command = { type = population which = 439 value = -1000 } #Toledo
command = { type = population which = 444 value = -500 } #Granada
command = { type = population which = 438 value = -1500 } #Murcia
command = { type = population which = 435 value = -1000 } #Leon
command = { type = provinceculture which = 444 value = iberian } #Granada
command = { type = provinceculture which = 445 value = iberian } #Gibraltar
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 444 value = -2 } #Granada
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 445 value = -2 } #Gibraltar
command = { type = revolt which = 437 } #Valencia
command = { type = revolt which = 437 } #Valencia
command = { type = stability value = 2 }
command = { type = provincetax which = 438 value = -1 } #Murcia
command = { type = provincetax which = 430 value = -2 } #Aragon
command = { type = provincetax which = 437 value = -3 } #Valencia
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3167B" #Let them be as they are needed for the economy
#no RR -2 in this case for Granada and Gibraltar - wad
command = { type = domestic which = MERCANTILISM value = -2 }
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 2 }
command = { type = sleepevent which = 338167 } #ProvinceSpec*805: Morisque Refugees from Al-Andalus
command = { type = sleepevent which = 338168 } #ProvinceSpec*806: Morisque Refugees from Al-Andalus
command = { type = sleepevent which = 338169 } #ProvinceSpec*732: Morisque Refugees from Al-Andalus
command = { type = sleepevent which = 338170 } #ProvinceSpec*733: Morisque Refugees from Al-Andalus
command = { type = sleepevent which = 338171 } #ProvinceSpec*734: Morisque Refugees from Al-Andalus
command = { type = sleepevent which = 338172 } #ProvinceSpec*737: Morisque Refugees from Al-Andalus
}
}But if Granada is not owned at this time, it will be too late for a culture conversion and Granada province will only suffer nationalism and not permanent RR+2 if action_b chosen in SPA_3160.
Yes, at least until some Portuguese-speaker tells what the short forms are for the ordinal numbers. But I'm certainly not going to hold my breath waiting for that to happen.YodaMaster said:
I think that the OR condition is the best solution. Don't forget to modify Alt-Iberia equivalent if any.YodaMaster said:
Aye, 1st Primeiro translates to "First First".sturmvogel said:
So,
Primeiro
Segundo
Terceiro
Quarto
Quinto
Sexto
Setimo
Oitavo
Nono
Decimo
Decimo Primeiro
Decimo Segundo
(etc)
Edit:
I totaly misunderstood that.
Short forms are 1º, 2º for masculine and 1ª, 2ª for feminine (infantry is a feminine word, but army is masculine, so depends on what you're aiming at)
If using those isn't possible, an "o" or "a" after the number works too: 1o, 2o, 3a, 4a...
@th3freakie: red means removed and yellow means added for us. Just read "Primeiro Caçadores", "Terceiro Caçadores", and "Sexta Caçadores".
Is there a difference between singular and plural?
Or is this list correct:
1° Caçadores
2° Caçadores
6° Caçadores
Is there a difference between singular and plural?
Or is this list correct:
1° Caçadores
2° Caçadores
6° Caçadores
Wow, that was quick! I really didn't expect a Portuguese speaker so quickly.th3freakie said:
th3freakie said:
...
Sétimo
...
Décimo
Décimo Primeiro
Décimo Segundo
To be a perfectionist.
Got that after awhile I didYodaMaster said:
o A difference? I don't understand. The list is correct, but could use a "de" as in "Primeiro de Caçadores" or "1º de Caçadores". If there isn't enough space though, it won't kill the name either, leaving it out.
Samorin - wiseass
th3freakie said:Got that after awhile I did
A difference? I don't understand. The list is correct, but could use a "de" as in "Primeiro de Caçadores" or "1º de Caçadores". If there isn't enough space though, it won't kill the name either, leaving it out.
Samorin - wiseass
is not the term "de" a spanish and french system , while the Portuguese used "da" similar to the tuscans and venetians?
the difference is de = vicinity of an area
while da = "a more exact location"
I imagine there's a gramatical rule that says when to use "da", "do" or "de". But I don't know when exactly "de" applies, it just sounds right when you have to say it. What I can say to you is that "da" applies to the feminine and "do" to masculine.
Sometimes "de" applies when, by logic, it should be "da" or "do". For example:
Inhabitants of Lisbon - Habitantes de Lisboa.
Inhabitants of Oporto - Habitantes do Porto.
By logic, being Lisboa feminine, you would use "da", but you don't. On the other hand, Porto is masculine and there you use "do". In case you are wondering that "de" is used only to replace "da", no. Inhabitants of Faro - habitantes de Faro, is used "de", when Faro is masculine "do".
Crazy language, the portuguese. lol I'm not surprised, now that you made me think about it, that so much people has a hard time to learn portuguese.
Sometimes "de" applies when, by logic, it should be "da" or "do". For example:
Inhabitants of Lisbon - Habitantes de Lisboa.
Inhabitants of Oporto - Habitantes do Porto.
By logic, being Lisboa feminine, you would use "da", but you don't. On the other hand, Porto is masculine and there you use "do". In case you are wondering that "de" is used only to replace "da", no. Inhabitants of Faro - habitantes de Faro, is used "de", when Faro is masculine "do".
Crazy language, the portuguese. lol I'm not surprised, now that you made me think about it, that so much people has a hard time to learn portuguese.
Samorim said:
there is no rule, its a cultural thing
Leonardo da vinci is not feminine
Toio said:
Regarding names, it's always "de", like Personal name "of"/"de" Family.
YodaMaster said:
Yes it is. Assuming it's 1st of Hunters (translated to english), for 1st (army) of Hunters.