YodaMaster said:
No, this is poorly worded. I'd suggest something along the lines of "Portuguese fortifications built to protect their trade routes."
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No, this is poorly worded. I'd suggest something along the lines of "Portuguese fortifications built to protect their trade routes."
sturmvogel said:
my original is better
yours should be
"Portuguese build fortifications to protect their trade routes."
I would like to discuss here the Spanish superpower. Spain always leads in technologies such as land and naval, shouldn't we try at least to stop it in 1640s.Bordic from post 2345 in BI&F thread said:I start to think that Spain needs to have more penalties as to avoid being the world leader in naval and land technologies. What about a further bankruptcy in early 1600s. Iirc Spain suffered 3 huge bankruptcies in time span 1580-1630. Or what else apart from modifying italian culture or eventually more instability?YodaMaster said:Owned by Naples before, taken by Naples to Denmark previously (don't ask why...) and Ottoman now because of a war of Naples and Venice against OE.
About other parts of the map, it is mainly because of Spanish new rule in Europe. Spain is too strong for Netherlands to form if Spain controls all the area. More RR? I can make +800 if needed...
Yodamaster said:
As for example I often see Ottoman Empire leading in land early in the game and then slowing, could we try to have the same for Spain?
EDIT: maybe the problem could be that of having Spain fully narrowminded and serdom. Those two DPs grant Spain less costs in stability which could compensate the increase of tech costs. Is this sensible to argue that?
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Bordic said:
i gave you one solution
only give Spain , Italian and Catalan cultures after the death of Ferdinand.
I have played about 10 to 15 games (viewed) ,there never was a revolt in these italian or catalan areas and yet Spain was very passive in europe. less armies and monies. passiveness might be something to do with economic strength compared to its neighbours.
I know it will only be for 36 years, but it keeps them slightly behind france in the power stakes
OE need to lead early to conquer fast. I think they get caught by about 1550
Also , does Spain need to get basque culture? Maybe we could add it after with the Bourbon kings with the decrees of the New Plan.Toio said:
In comparison France never gets either gaelic (Brittany) or basque cultures.
These events are AI only. Pick whatever version you prefer. This is just a comment.Toio said:
my original is better
yours should be
"Portuguese build fortifications to protect their trade routes."
Offset is just too small for Portugal to have time to build a complete colony before they fire (and have no effect if population is under 1,000...). I suggest offset 1800 instead of 180.
About Spain, let's summarize:
I agree for both.
In comparison with OE, remember OE techgroup is modified, latin at start, orthodox in 1540 and muslim in 1610 if OE follows historical path.
I agree for both.
In comparison with OE, remember OE techgroup is modified, latin at start, orthodox in 1540 and muslim in 1610 if OE follows historical path.
YodaMaster said:
you choose the comments,
the intension is for POR to have a fort even if they only have 1 colonist. its pointless any other way because POR does not have a high cash flow. because of this lack of cash and no fort, money is lost due to lost "colonists" . POR has to go back again and again and spend more money trying to establish a base.
Already included with your version...Toio said:
That's why I suggest 1800 and not only 180 for the offset. Within 5 years, Portugal has time to finish the colony (provincereligion trigger is right just after the first colonist). It is almost impossible within only six months and fortress command will fail.
It is maybe considered a "sacrilege" to move Spain to the orthodox techgroup around the War of Spanish succession of even earlier between 1640 and 1700?YodaMaster said:
It could be the solution. Orthodox techgroup is only 10% penalty in tech race but Spain will have no tech difference bonus after that. Be aware Russia and Poland will benefit from this change for the opposite reason since Spain will be more advanced than them.
Minor text change because this event can happen long after 1567:
#-#Historically in 1567 there was an Ecclesiastical Council at Goa that decided that all non-Catholic religions were intrinsically wrong and harmful in themselves and that it was the duty of the King of Portugal to spread the Catholic faith. This led to many harsh sanctions throught the Portuguese Asian empire against non-Catholics and the all but forced conversion of many to Catholicism. This resulted in many Hindus leaving Portuguese-controlled Goa and its surrounding districts to escape persecution.
Code:
#(1567-1660) The [COLOR=Red]1567[/COLOR] Ecclesiastical Council at Goa
event = {
id = 260086
trigger = {
owned = { province = 549 data = -1 }
control = { province = 549 data = [COLOR=Red]POR[/COLOR][COLOR=Yellow]-1[/COLOR] }
}
random = no
country = POR
name = "EVENTNAME260086" #The [COLOR=Red]1567[/COLOR] Ecclesiastical Council at Goa
desc = "EVENTHIST260086"
#-#
date = { month = december year = 1567 }
offset = 30
deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1660 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME260086A" #Enforce the decrees of the fathers
command = { type = conversion which = 549 } #Goa
command = { type = conversion which = -1 }
command = { type = population which = 549 value = -1500 } #Goa
command = { type = provincetax which = 549 value = -1 } #Goa
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME260086B" #Enforce some of the decrees of the fathers
command = { type = conversion which = -1 }
}
action_c = {
name = "ACTIONNAME260086C" #Don't enforce the decrees of the fathers
command = { type = stability value = -1 }
}
}x
Bordic said:
France don´t needs basque culture as it has an event turning Bearn into french culture (FRA 12051)
I fear Spain is too much land and mercantilism oriented (almost maxed out) even around 1540 for a proper colonization.
my submissions ----- the POR forts , .........my original version with the trigger control missing, is the only way to have these events
1 colonist = 1 fort is the only way for POR
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7637730&postcount=2399
All events with trigger, control needs to be removed, its pointless any other way because POR does not have the money to make a full city most of the time, but they need a fort,
example
# Azores fortified
event = {
id = 338436
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 823 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 823 data = POR }
control = { province = 823 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 823
name = "EVENTNAME338436" #Azores fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338436"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.
date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338436A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = 1 }
}
}
1 colonist = 1 fort is the only way for POR
http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showpost.php?p=7637730&postcount=2399
All events with trigger, control needs to be removed, its pointless any other way because POR does not have the money to make a full city most of the time, but they need a fort,
example
# Azores fortified
event = {
id = 338436
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 823 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 823 data = POR }
control = { province = 823 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 823
name = "EVENTNAME338436" #Azores fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338436"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.
date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }
action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338436A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = 1 }
}
}
I disagree, ownership is true even with a TP. Control is needed (natives, if any, could even seize the province) and fortress command doesn't work on colonies/TPs but cities only.
And extension of offset to 1800 is for Portugal to have time building a full city. Anyway, some fortifications events may fail since best condition would have been testing population level or city status but there is no such condition.
And extension of offset to 1800 is for Portugal to have time building a full city. Anyway, some fortifications events may fail since best condition would have been testing population level or city status but there is no such condition.
YodaMaster said:
ok leave control, remove religious trigger
you sure fortress only works on cities, because I have seen POR have a fortress at different levels of colonist when I remove the religious trigger,
You might as well scrap the events then, because POR will never have the money to finish MOST of their cities, this is because they are attacked by every african native tribe around. so what happens is , they might build up to level 4 , 5, or 6 in colonists for 1 province, the province is then attacked and POR has to start all over again or bring troops to take the province back,
since POR is scrounging around for every ducat they can get, they might never go back to that province for decades.
with a fort being dumped in the province from any level of colonist placed , then at least POR has some chance to retain this province.
I suggest you do a test
Religious condition is to avoid trigger being true for TPs.
In my last test with offset 1800 forts appeared in most provinces. I can't check right now but about 6 provinces out of 9.
Btw, is event for Zanzibar really needed? This is a full city owned by Kilwa at start and province is already fortified.
In my last test with offset 1800 forts appeared in most provinces. I can't check right now but about 6 provinces out of 9.
Btw, is event for Zanzibar really needed? This is a full city owned by Kilwa at start and province is already fortified.
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