AGC-EEP: Iberian Peninsula

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I think he means the Andalusian one (Seville?)

Corresponding event will fire only if Andalusia is owned by Spain and for this province. Even if a big Aragon can become Spain alone, only relevant Spanish events will fire. Where is the trouble? This is the same for all countries.

 

[Toio]

Corresponding event will fire only if Andalusia is owned by Spain and for this province. Even if a big Aragon can become Spain alone, only relevant Spanish events will fire. Where is the trouble? This is the same for all countries.

my questions reflects that if Aragon is the dominant partner, then we might as well revert back to the old eep days and have the union with CAS be at 1515.

so a cot in seville should be not available, but placed in barcelona.
columbus will be as per normal, he lived in barcelona any way.
IIRC some northern provinces went to aragon before the merger as well.

after 1515 when Spain form , then we revert to Spain events

 

[Garbon]

my questions reflects that if Aragon is the dominant partner, then we might as well revert back to the old eep days and have the union with CAS be at 1515.

so a cot in seville should be not available, but placed in barcelona.
columbus will be as per normal, he lived in barcelona any way.
IIRC some northern provinces went to aragon before the merger as well.

after 1515 when Spain form , then we revert to Spain events

These events have nothing to do with Aragon being the dominant partner. This sequence occurs when Aragon and Castile are not partners

 

[Toio]

These events have nothing to do with Aragon being the dominant partner. This sequence occurs when Aragon and Castile are not partners

In a round about way, if they are not partners (ARG and CAS) then we can revert to the sequence in the old eep days when they formed Spain in 1515

I presume , having a SPAIN is still the aim of the AGCEEP

 

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The Forging of the Spanish Identity - reworked sequence

Dormant monarch in monarchs.spa:

#if Castile becomes Spain without Aragon
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0127524 }
	startdate = {
		day = 11
		month = december
		year = 1474
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = november
		year = 1504
	}
	name = "Isabel I"
	DIP = 9
	MIL = 5
	ADM = 8
	dormant = yes
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0127525 }
	startdate = {
		day = 25
		month = november
		year = 1504
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 23
		month = january
		year = 1516
	}
	name = "Juana I"
	DIP = 3
	MIL = 2
	ADM = 3
	dormant = no
	remark = "'la Loca'"
}
#if Aragon becomes Spain without Castile
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 0127526 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1479
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 23
		month = january
		year = 1516
	}
	name = "Fernando I"
	DIP = 8
	MIL = 8
	ADM = 6
	dormant = yes
	remark = "El Rey Católico."
}

Tweak for wrong date in monarchs.cas (day range is 0-29):

historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 029504 }
	startdate = {
		day = [COLOR=Yellow]25[/COLOR]
		month = november
		year = 1504
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 25
		month = september
		year = 1506
	}
	name = "Felipe I"
	DIP = 3
	MIL = 2
	ADM = 3
	dormant = no
	remark = "'el Hermoso', and Juana 'la Loca'"
}

Reworked events:

#(1479-1491) Orphan kingdom of Castile
#by Twoflower and Fodoron
event = {
	id = 142016
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			NOT = { #ARG missing but not by inheritance
				exists = ARG
				event = 142013
			}
			NOT = { event = 142010 } #CAS: Isabel's choice of husband (ARG refused union)
		}
		NOT = { exists = SPA }
	}
	random = no
	country = CAS
	name = "EVENTNAME[COLOR=Yellow]111026[/COLOR]" #The Forging of the Spanish Identity
	desc = "EVENTHIST142016"
	#-#

	date = { day = [COLOR=Yellow]20[/COLOR] month = january year = 1479 } [COLOR=Yellow]#was 16[/COLOR]
	offset = 100
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1491 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME142016A" #Yes, Castile shall become Spain
		command = { type = addcore which = 427 } #Gerona
		command = { type = addcore which = 429 } #Catalonia
		command = { type = addcore which = 430 } #Aragon
		command = { type = addcore which = 437 } #Valencia
		command = { type = addcore which = 821 } #The Baleares
		command = { type = addcore which = 428 } #Navarra
		command = { type = add_countryculture which = amazonian } #Catalan
		command = { type = flagname which = "" }
		command = { type = country which = SPA }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = sleepleader which = 0127802 } #Prospero Colonna (SPA)[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = trigger which = 285278 } #SPA: The Forging of the Spanish Identity[/COLOR]
		#command = { type = AI which = Spa_time1479.ai } #War of granada
		#command = { type = sleepevent which = 990100 } #Spanish bpai up to Dec. 1479 #SPA_AI_EVENT
		#command = { type = sleepevent which = 990101 } #Spanish bpai 1480-1490 #SPA_AI_EVENT
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME142016B" #No, Castile is good enough
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	}
}

#-#For centuries the Christians in the Iberian peninsula have dreamed of restoring the Visigothic kingdom that was destroyed by the Muslim invasion. Many kings have tried to achieve this union of Christians by force of arms, and have carried the title of Hispaniorum Imperator. Between them Sancho III of Navarre and Alfonso VII of Castile were close to achieve unity. But it was not by force that unity could be imposed, as a strong sense of freedom have been developed by the Iberians in their long struggle against Islam, manifested in an equally long struggle against their Christian neighbors. As the kingdom of Aragon cannot claim the title of Hispaniorum Imperator, Castile has no big opponent to resuscitate the kingdom of Spain.

#(1479-1491) Orphan kingdom of Aragon
#by Twoflower and Fodoron
event = {
	id = 111026
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			NOT = { #CAS missing but not by inheritance
				exists = CAS
				event = 111024
			}
			NOT = { event = 142012 } #CAS: Isabel and Fernando kings of Castile (CAS rejected union)
		}
		NOT = { exists = SPA }
		[COLOR=Yellow]OR = {
			owned = { province = 431 data = -1 } #Cantabria
			owned = { province = 433 data = -1 } #Galicia
			owned = { province = 443 data = -1 } #Andalusia
		}
		OR = {
			owned = { province = 435 data = -1 } #Leon
			owned = { province = 436 data = -1 } #Castilla
			owned = { province = 440 data = -1 } #Estramadura
		}[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME111026" #The Forging of the Spanish Identity
	desc = "EVENTHIST111026"
	#-#

	date = { day = [COLOR=Yellow]20[/COLOR] month = january year = 1479 } [COLOR=Yellow]#was 16[/COLOR]
	offset = 100
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1491 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME111026A" #Yes, Aragon shall become Spain
		command = { type = addcore which = 431 } #Cantabria
		command = { type = addcore which = 432 } #Asturias
		command = { type = addcore which = 433 } #Galicia
		command = { type = addcore which = 435 } #Leon
		command = { type = addcore which = 436 } #Castilla
		command = { type = addcore which = 438 } #Murcia
		command = { type = addcore which = 439 } #Toledo
		command = { type = addcore which = 440 } #Extremadura
		command = { type = addcore which = 443 } #Andalucia
		command = { type = addcore which = 444 } #Gibraltar
		command = { type = addcore which = 445 } #Granada
		command = { type = addcore which = 817 } #The Canary Islands
		command = { type = add_countryculture which = iberian } #Castilian
		command = { type = flagname which = "" }
		command = { type = country which = SPA }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = 1 }
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 010812 } #Prospero Colonna (ARG)
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = trigger which = 285279 } #SPA: The Forging of the Spanish Identity[/COLOR]
		#command = { type = AI which = Spa_time1479.ai } #ar of granada
		#command = { type = sleepevent which = 990100 } #Spanish bpai up to Dec. 1479 #SPA: AI_EVENT
		#command = { type = sleepevent which = 990101 } #Spanish bpai 1480-1490 #SPA: AI_EVENT
		#command = { type = wakeleader which = XXXXX } #Fernando of Aragon - removed in 1.40 => no such leader for Aragon
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME111026B" #No, Aragon is good enough
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	}
}

For centuries the Christians in the Iberian peninsula have dreamed of restoring the Visigothic kingdom that was destroyed by the Muslim invasion. Many kings have tried to achieve this union of Christians by force of arms, and have carried the title of Hispaniorum Imperator. Between them Sancho III of Navarre and Alfonso VII of Castile were close to achieve unity. But it was not by force that unity could be imposed, as a strong sense of freedom have been developed by the Iberians in their long struggle against Islam, manifested in an equally long struggle against their Christian neighbors. As the kingdom of Castile cannot claim the title of Hispaniorum Imperator, Aragon has no big opponent to resuscitate the kingdom of Spain.

New events:

#(1479-1491) The Forging of the Spanish Identity - Ahistorical
event = {
	id = 285278 #triggered by CAS_142016 A
	random = no
	country = SPA
	name = "EVENTNAME111026" #The Forging of the Spanish Identity
	desc = "EVENTHIST285278"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "VIVAT"
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0127500 } #Isabel y Fernando
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0127524 } #Isabel I
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0127525 } #Juana I
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 0127802 } #Prospero Colonna (SPA)
	}
}

EVENTHIST285278;Isabel I of Castile becomes the queen of Spain as Isabel I.;;;;;;;;;;

#(1479-1491) The Forging of the Spanish Identity - Ahistorical
event = {
	id = 285279 #triggered by ARG_111026 A
	random = no
	country = SPA
	name = "EVENTNAME111026" #The Forging of the Spanish Identity
	desc = "EVENTHIST285279"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "VIVAT"
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 0127500 } #Isabel y Fernando
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 0127526 } #Fernando I
	}
}

EVENTHIST285279;Ferrán II of Aragon becomes the king of Spain as Fernando I.;;;;;;;;;;


I'm not sure but it seems to be a big bugfix to me rather than a modification.

With this, Castile has more chance to become Spain because of added conditions in trigger of ARG event and we still have a door open for unification before 1515 and possible struggle between Felipe and Fernando because of Juana.

 

[Toio]

question

firstly, I support the formation of SPain in 1479 (a-historical )

but i want to know is why Spain get catalan and italian cultures in 1479. I think that historically, since these cultures where with aragon and aragon was still dealing in trades, alliances and military activety on its own from 1479 to 1515 with ferdinand, i cannot see why we need to give Spain these cultures until the death of ferdinand in
event 285223 (spain)

the only issue i see is a revolt issue, but , that might not eventuate ( needs testing) due to Spain diplomaic setup.

thoughts?

 

[Bordic]

question

firstly, I support the formation of SPain in 1479 (a-historical )

but i want to know is why Spain get catalan and italian cultures in 1479. I think that historically, since these cultures where with aragon and aragon was still dealing in trades, alliances and military activety on its own from 1479 to 1515 with ferdinand, i cannot see why we need to give Spain these cultures until the death of ferdinand in
event 285223 (spain)

the only issue i see is a revolt issue, but , that might not eventuate ( needs testing) due to Spain diplomaic setup.

thoughts?

Do you mean Italian and Catalan cultures should only be given with Carlos I?

 

[Toio]

Do you mean Italian and Catalan cultures should only be given with Carlos I?

yes,

historically it will make it accurate, but gameplay , I am unsure. does SPain needs all this manpower at the time, the money etc etc

 

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why do portuguese explorers last so little time?

 

[unmerged(40707)]

They have been extended in version 1.54. Are you talking about this version or previous one(s)?

 

[Toio]

i feel we need to help the AI for POR in fortress as POR is too poor to build forts.

I suggest only the following list of provinces to be given a chance to have a province based event, similar to whats below

AZORES
SENEGAL
CAPE VERDE
LEONE
FERNANDO PO
PERNAMBUC
DIAMENTINA
SALVADOR
ITAIMAS
ZAMBEZIA
INHAMBANE
ZANZIBAR

# Azores fortified
event = {
id = 338436
trigger = {
owned = { province = 823 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 823
name = "EVENTNAME338436" #Azores fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338436"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338436A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = 1 }
}
}

I think these are the most POR should have


Also, Kilwa nation is too tough for POR to ever get any of their provinces.

The Thaisea which was added works well as does Cameroon (which I forgot to place for submission)

thoughts

 

[Bordic]

Why not as sturmvogel did previously: a command line to remove the fortress annd another one to add a fortress. So that AI Portugal doesn't reach level 2 without paying any doblon.

 

[Toio]

Why not as sturmvogel did previously: a command line to remove the fortress annd another one to add a fortress. So that AI Portugal doesn't reach level 2 without paying any doblon.

because my way gives a 1 shot only, level 1 fort and thats what I am after.

POR has to pay for the next level

 

[Garbon]

because my way gives a 1 shot only, level 1 fort and thats what I am after.

POR has to pay for the next level

Which is Bordic's comment. If there is already a fortress than Portugal can end up with a level 2 for free. If you have a remove command then an add command, Portugal won't get beyond level 1 with the event.

 

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I agree. Since there is no cost for these forts, reducing fortress level before adding one is a good solution.

Portugal should control the province and religion should not be pagan (in order to avoid TPs).

Summary of current fortress events for Portugal:
POR_260048 => Leone (795): +1
POR_18106 => Malacca (677): +1
POR_260074 (AI only) => Mtawa (768): +1
POR_18036 (AI only) => Mombasa (763): +1
POR_260057 => Socotra (756): -2
POR_260009 => Al Kharam (505): +1
POR_260953 (AI only) => Ceram (715): +1
POR_260954 (AI only) => Timor (712): +1
POR_260958 (AI only) => Flores (711): +1
POR_360959 (AI only) => Tindore (713): +1
POR_260012 (AI only) => Salvador (209): +1
POR_260011 (AI only) => Diamentina (207): +1
POR_260079 => Mombasa (763): +1 (to reach lvl2 or more)

All fortresses have a cost in these events, except Al Kharam and POR_260057.

 

[Toio]

Which is Bordic's comment. If there is already a fortress than Portugal can end up with a level 2 for free. If you have a remove command then an add command, Portugal won't get beyond level 1 with the event.

ok on that, but never seen a fort

I have just witnessed 5 games in 1.54 and my comments reflect past version as well.

I never seen POR build a fort ever (or that I can recall). latest game is 1590 , no fort in azores, non in F Po (using cameroon in AI) , no forts in west africa or south america or east africa. they have 7 built, completed cities and 6 trading cities.

POR reach the thaisea in 1537, so there knowledge of areas is extensive.

Maybe the issue is lack of money for POR, if it is , its pointless to give them extra money because we cannot guarantee they will build forts with it.

My idea will work because as soon as its owned , there is a fort, POR will not build another

 

[Toio]

Why not as sturmvogel did previously: a command line to remove the fortress annd another one to add a fortress. So that AI Portugal doesn't reach level 2 without paying any doblon.

ok, done

post updated

 

[Garbon]

ok on that, but never seen a fort

I have just witnessed 5 games in 1.54 and my comments reflect past version as well.

I never seen POR build a fort ever (or that I can recall). latest game is 1590 , no fort in azores, non in F Po (using cameroon in AI) , no forts in west africa or south america or east africa. they have 7 built, completed cities and 6 trading cities.

POR reach the thaisea in 1537, so there knowledge of areas is extensive.

Maybe the issue is lack of money for POR, if it is , its pointless to give them extra money because we cannot guarantee they will build forts with it.

My idea will work because as soon as its owned , there is a fort, POR will not build another

Yea that's fine. The idea is great, just supporting the check for that off chance.../we never know what Portugal might be like in a future release.

 

[Toio]

here are the events ,
Unsure if I should keep , Leone, Diamentina and Salvador

# Azores fortified
event = {
id = 338436
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 823 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 823 data = POR }
control = { province = 823 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 823
name = "EVENTNAME338436" #Azores fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338436"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338436A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 823 value = 1 }
}
}

# Senegal fortified
event = {
id = 338437
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 800 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 800 data = POR }
control = { province = 800 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 800
name = "EVENTNAME338437" #Senegal fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338437"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338437A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 800 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 800 value = 1 }
}
}

# Cape Verde fortified
event = {
id = 338438
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 818 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 818 data = POR }
control = { province = 818 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 818
name = "EVENTNAME338438" #Cape Verde fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338438"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338438A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 818 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 818 value = 1 }
}
}


# Fernando Po fortified
event = {
id = 338440
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 816 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 816 data = POR }
control = { province = 816 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 816
name = "EVENTNAME338440" #Fernando Po fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338440"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338440A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 816 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 816 value = 1 }
}
}

# Pernambuc fortified
event = {
id = 338441
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 205 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 205 data = POR }
control = { province = 205 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 205
name = "EVENTNAME338441" #Pernambuc fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338441"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338441A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 205 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 205 value = 1 }
}
}


# Itaimas fortified
event = {
id = 338444
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 210 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 210 data = POR }
control = { province = 210 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 210
name = "EVENTNAME338444" #Itaimas fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338444"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338444A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 210 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 210 value = 1 }
}
}

# Zambezia fortified
event = {
id = 338439
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 771 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 771 data = POR }
control = { province = 771 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 771
name = "EVENTNAME338439" #Zambezia fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338439"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338439A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 771 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 771 value = 1 }
}
}

# Inhambane fortified
event = {
id = 338442
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 772 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 772 data = POR }
control = { province = 772 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 772
name = "EVENTNAME338442" #Inhambane fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338442"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338442A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 772 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 772 value = 1 }
}
}

# Zanzibar fortified
event = {
id = 338443
trigger = {
NOT = { provincereligion = { province = 765 data = pagan } }
owned = { province = 765 data = POR }
control = { province = 765 data = POR }
ai = yes
}
random = no
province = 765
name = "EVENTNAME338443" #Zanzibar fortified
desc = "EVENTHIST338443"
#-#Portugal fortify their vital trade.

date = { year = 1420 }
offset = 180
deathdate = { year = 1650 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME338443A" #Build fort
command = { type = fortress which = 765 value = -1 } #destroy any existing fort
command = { type = fortress which = 765 value = 1 }
}
}

 

[unmerged(40707)]

In post #2395, I made a summary of existing events. Some provinces are already covered by such events. Please check.

Condition checking if province is not pagan (i.e. not a TP) is missing too.