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What do you mean exactly? Should the new condition be added in 75012 and 75017 and alternate events created then?

Ok, i understand 75012, its the French family La Marck from berri that tried to inherit brabant. Well then 75012 seems fine. and also 75017 as well, they should fire as normal,
75017 will fire if KLE does not exist and
75012 needs option A and b reversed, why does KLE get 2 chances to inherit GEL, france only supported GEL and not KLE?

Yes, I understand it is easy for AI Cleves to crush the rebellion because of the land path but not always. Anyway, Dutch provinces owned by Cleves should defect. If Guelders survives, Dutch revolts will only happen in two provinces and Guelders will join the Republic. However, Cleves is not exempted from the Dutch revolts and, IMHO, odds for seing Netherlands form from two provinces can't be higher than from four.

I really think the capital move for BUR to the low countries is a must even if brabant does not get annexed by BUR.
we need an event
1- if HAU exists and zeeland is BUR owned , move capital to zeeland, sleep event 2 below

2 -if Hau exists and zeeland not owned by BUR and holland owned by BUR move capital to holland.

I feel that BUR not getting the dutch culture and all its events will be detremental to BUR, SPA and neherlands in the long run,..........plus ENG will eye the low countries for conquest
 

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Ok, i understand 75012, its the French family La Marck from berri that tried to inherit brabant. Well then 75012 seems fine. and also 75017 as well, they should fire as normal,
75017 will fire if KLE does not exist and
75012 needs option A and b reversed, why does KLE get 2 chances to inherit GEL, france only supported GEL and not KLE?
Propose reworked and additional events.

I really think the capital move for BUR to the low countries is a must even if brabant does not get annexed by BUR.
we need an event
1- if HAU exists and zeeland is BUR owned , move capital to zeeland, sleep event 2 below

2 -if Hau exists and zeeland not owned by BUR and holland owned by BUR move capital to holland.

I feel that BUR not getting the dutch culture and all its events will be detremental to BUR, SPA and neherlands in the long run,..........plus ENG will eye the low countries for conquest
Or France first... but even if it is detrimental to Burgundy and Spain, Burgundy will not be exempted of the Dutch revolts if capital is not in Brussels and AI France will not be able to face Dutch revolts and Wars of Religion at the same time.
Only interest here is the formation of the Netherlands in the end, even if not perfect.
 

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Propose reworked and additional events.

Or France first... but even if it is detrimental to Burgundy and Spain, Burgundy will not be exempted of the Dutch revolts if capital is not in Brussels and AI France will not be able to face Dutch revolts and Wars of Religion at the same time.
Only interest here is the formation of the Netherlands in the end, even if not perfect.

OK, but its Chrismas here tomorrow, it will have to wait as I will be away for about 4 days

Merry Christmas to all in the meantime.

And to all the non christians, well , greetings
 

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just a quick visit while i work on the brabant issues, but why does BUR retain french culture when they have gone in another direction ?

my changes below

Code:
#(1447 or 1463) The Ascension - Ahistorical
event = {
	id = 28006 #triggered by HAB_28005 B or HAB_28008 B / HAB_179123 A
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME28006" #King Philip
	desc = "EVENTHIST28006"
	#-#Philip the Good has been crowned King of Lotharingia.

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME28006A" #God save the King!
		command = { type = flagname which = "Lotharingia" }
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 3 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 337 } #Friesen
		command = { type = addcore which = 338 } #Geldre
		command = { type = addcore which = 339 } #Holland
		command = { type = addcore which = 340 } #Zeeland
		command = { type = addcore which = 334 } #Munster
		command = { type = addcore which = 335 } #Oldenburg
		command = { type = addcore which = 343 } #Kleves
		command = { type = addcore which = 344 } #Köln
		command = { type = addcore which = 345 } #Pfalz
		command = { type = addcore which = 375 } #Lorraine
		command = { type = addcore which = 374 } #Alsace
		command = { type = DIP which = 2 value = 12 }
		command = { type = relation which = KOL value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = PFA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = OLD value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = MUN value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = KLE value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = LOR value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = STR value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRI value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEL value = -50 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 20100 } #BUR: The Crown of France
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 28007 } #BUR: Philip the Good parleys with Emperor Frederick III -I-
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 137049 } #BUR: Philip the Good parleys with Emperor Frederick III -II-
		command = { type = trigger which = 20313 } #KOL: Burgundian Claims on Cologne
		command = { type = trigger which = 20314 } #MUN: Burgundian Claims on Cleves
		command = { type = trigger which = 20315 } #OLD: Burgundian Claims on Oldenburg
		command = { type = trigger which = 20316 } #PFA: Burgundian Claims on the Palatinate
		command = { type = trigger which = 20317 } #KLE: Burgundian Claims on Munster
		command = { type = trigger which = 20322 } #LOR: Burgundian Claims on Lorraine
		command = { type = trigger which = 20323 } #STR: Burgundian Claims on Strasburg
		command = { type = trigger which = 171001 } #FRI: Burgundian Claims on Friesen
		command = { type = trigger which = 173005 } #GEL: Burgundian Claims on Guelders
		command = { type = trigger which = 20320 } #FRA: Philip of Burgundy made King of Lotharingia
               [COLOR="Yellow"]command = { type = remove_countryculture which = french }
               command = { type = add_countryculture which = german }[/COLOR]
	}
}

Unsure about , if FRA is not formed and DAU still exists, then maybe DAU becomes FRA at the same time
 

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Unsure about , if FRA is not formed and DAU still exists, then maybe DAU becomes FRA at the same time
It could be plausible but what about Champagne and Ile de France? Burgundy could own many French cores in the area (remark is not tied to the loss of the French culture by Burgundy but problem for Dauphiné becoming France). Or key provinces could be owned by another country... like England.

Of course Burgundy could cede French cores (but certainly not her own in the area) but will it be sufficient for Dauphiné?
 

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my suggestions for BUR capital if Brabant exists, I do not see why BUR should miss out on dutch culture just because Brabant was not annexed, also the economic centre of BUR was in flanders

Code:
#(1430-1440) The Burgundian Capital (II)
event = {
	id = 137081
	trigger = {
		exists = HAU
		owned = { province = 340 data = -1 }
		control = { province = 340 data = -1 }
	}
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137081" #The Burgundian Capital
	desc = "EVENTHIST137081"
	#-#The Duchy of Burgundy was originally a French state, but with the acquisitions of Flanders, Holland, and Zeeland the core of the duchy shifted North to the Low countries. In time Burgundian monarchs absorbed Dutch culture, and when Middelburg fell into the hands of Philip the Good he decided to move his royal court.

	date = { day = 21 month = january year = 1432 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 21 month = january year = 1440 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137081A" #Move to Middelburg and focus expansion throughout the Lowlands
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = capital which = 340 } #zeeland
		command = { type = addcore which = 340 } #zeeland
                command = { type = setflag which = [Brussels] }
		command = { type = add_countryculture which = dutch }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 20100 } #BUR: The Crown of France
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 137082 } #BUR: Burgundian Capital III
	}
}


Code:
#(1430-1440) The Burgundian Capital (III)
event = {
	id = 137082
	trigger = {
                exists = HAU
		owned = { province = 380 data = -1 }
		control = { province = 380 data = -1 }
		NOT = { owned = { province = 340 data = -1 }
		NOT = { control = { province = 340 data = -1 }
	}
	}
        }
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137082" #The Burgundian Capital
	desc = "EVENTHIST137082"
	#-#The Duchy of Burgundy was originally a French state, but with the acquisitions of Flanders and Holland, the core of the duchy shifted North to the Netherlands, Its economic heartland was in the Low Countries, particularly Flanders. In time Burgundian monarchs absorbed Dutch culture, and when Amsterdam was securely in the hands of Philip the Good he decided to move his royal court.

	date = { day = 24 month = january year = 1432 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 24 month = january year = 1440 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137082A" #Move to Flanders and focus expansion throughout the Lowlands
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = capital which = 380 } #Flanders
		command = { type = addcore which = 380 } #Flanders
                command = { type = setflag which = [Brussels] }
		command = { type = add_countryculture which = dutch }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 20100 } #BUR: The Crown of France
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 137081 } #BUR: Burgundian Capital II
	}
}
 
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It could be plausible but what about Champagne and Ile de France? Burgundy could own many French cores in the area (remark is not tied to the loss of the French culture by Burgundy but problem for Dauphiné becoming France). Or key provinces could be owned by another country... like England.

Of course Burgundy could cede French cores (but certainly not her own in the area) but will it be sufficient for Dauphiné?

We only need an event to say:

IF event 28006 fires ,
DAU will become FRA

The capital of this new FRA will be where it is and events will follow the normal course.....we are talking about from 1447
 

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Yes but if Dauphiné never became France before, Champagne was never controlled and Ile de France never owned. Does it make sense seeing France popping up from "nowhere" in this case?

About post #2026, it is possible now because the Great Bastard will be the ruler of Brabant. Action names mention Brussels but is Brussels located in the corresponding provinces?
We should have another event in order to relocate the capital in Brabant as soon as possible when province will be owned, if ever. Remember [Brussels] flag is used for Burgundian events according to such move towards the Lowlands (especially for the Dutch revolts) in original event but this flag is not set with the proposed new events.
 
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Yes but if Dauphiné never became France before, Champagne was never controlled and Ile de France never owned. Does it make sense seeing France popping up from "nowhere" in this case?

don't we already have DAU_361000 to cover this area?

About post #2026, it is possible now because the Great Bastard will be the ruler of Brabant. Action names mention Brussels but is Brussels located in the corresponding provinces?
We should have another event in order to relocate the capital in Brabant as soon as possible when province will be owned, if ever. Remember [Brussels] flag is used for Burgundian events according to such move towards the Lowlands (especially for the Dutch revolts) in original event but this flag is not set with the proposed new events.

post# 2026 amended
 

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brabant monarchs following the "bastards" dynasty

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057500 }
startdate = {
year = 1415
}
deathdate = {
day = 16
month = april
year = 1427
}
name = "Jan IV"
DIP = 2
ADM = 3
MIL = 4
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057501 }
startdate = {
day = 16
month = april
year = 1427
}
deathdate = {
day = 4
month = august
year = 1430
}
name = "Filips I"
DIP = 6
ADM = 7
MIL = 7
dormant = no
}

#-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#Nevers-Rethel succession - Existing people

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057502 }
startdate = {
day = 4
month = august
year = 1430
}
deathdate = {
day = 25
month = may
year = 1450
}
name = "Eberhard von Limburg*"
DIP = 4
ADM = 6
MIL = 6
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057503 }
startdate = {
day = 25
month = may
year = 1450
}
deathdate = {
day = 25
month = september
year = 1493
}
name = "Wilhelm I von Limburg*"
DIP = 6
ADM = 6
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057504 }
startdate = {
day = 25
month = september
year = 1493
}
deathdate = {
day = 21
month = november
year = 1506
}
name = "Adolf von Limburg*"
DIP = 7
ADM = 5
MIL = 6
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057505 }
startdate = {
day = 21
month = november
year = 1506
}
deathdate = {
year = 1552
}
name = "Georg von Limburg*"
DIP = 5
ADM = 5
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057506 }
startdate = {
year = 1552
}
deathdate = {
year = 1574
}
name = "Herman George*"
DIP = 6
ADM = 6
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057507 }
startdate = {
year = 1574
}
deathdate = {
year = 1616
}
name = "Jobst von Bronckhorst*"
DIP = 4
ADM = 3
MIL = 4
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057508 }
startdate = {
year = 1616
}
deathdate = {
day = 4
month = october
year = 1644
}
name = "Herman Otto I *"
DIP = 6
ADM = 7
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057509 }
startdate = {
day = 4
month = october
year = 1644
}
deathdate = {
day = 23
month = october
year = 1679
}
name = "Otto of Limburg *"
DIP = 7
ADM = 4
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057510 }
startdate = {
day = 23
month = october
year = 1679
}
deathdate = {
day = 21
month = september
year = 1690
}
name = "Albrecht Georg*"
DIP = 3
ADM = 3
MIL = 4
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057511 }
startdate = {
day = 21
month = september
year = 1690
}
deathdate = {
day = 14
month = august
year = 1724
}
name = "Friedrich Wilhelm*"
DIP = 5
ADM = 5
MIL = 4
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057512 }
startdate = {
day = 14
month = august
year = 1724
}
deathdate = {
day = 5
month = july
year = 1769
}
name = "Otto II of Limburg *"
DIP = 2
ADM = 2
MIL = 3
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057513 }
startdate = {
day = 5
month = july
year = 1769
}
deathdate = {
day = 27
month = october
year = 1797
}
name = "August Philip *"
DIP = 6
ADM = 5
MIL = 4
dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057514 }
startdate = {
day = 27
month = october
year = 1797
}
deathdate = {
year = 1840
}
name = "Leopold of Limburg *"
DIP = 4
ADM = 4
MIL = 5
dormant = no
}

historicalmonarch = {
id = { type = 6 id = 057515 }
startdate = {
year = 1778
}
deathdate = {
year = 1820
}
name = "Eleonoor *"
DIP = 5
ADM = 5
MIL = 3
dormant = no
}

 

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What do you mean exactly? Should the new condition be added in 75012 and 75017 and alternate events created then?

yes, your new condition should apply for both events
 

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I am confused on why we have the same leader below as yes dormat on the same event


historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 050800 }
category = general
name = "Greate Pier"
startdate = {
year = 1515
}
deathdate = {
year = 1520
}
rank = 6
movement = 4
fire = 3
shock = 4
siege = 1
dormant = yes
}
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 050801 }
category = admiral
name = "Greate Pier"
startdate = {
year = 1515
}
deathdate = {
year = 1520
}
rank = 6
movement = 4
fire = 3
shock = 4
siege = 0
dormant = yes
}


#(1514-1516) The sale of Friesland
event = {
id = 22022
trigger = {
exists = GEL
}
random = no
country = FRI
name = "EVENTNAME22007" #The sale of Friesland
desc = "EVENTHIST22022"
#-#Friesland agreed to be subjugated by Charles of Egmond, Duke of Guelders in October 1514. Heindrich sold his portion of West Friesland to his brother Georg, who sold it in May 1515, to Charles II of Burgundy. The Frisians were so outraged that their land had been sold to the count of Holland (their enemy-by-inheritance) that they called upon Charles of Egmond.

date = { day = 2 month = october year = 1514 }
offset = 25
deathdate = { day = 2 month = february year = 1516 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME22022A" #Call upon Charles of Egmond (End Game)
command = { type = trigger which = 22023 } #GEL: The Frisians call upon us to assist them
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME22022B" #Submit to Charles II
command = { type = trigger which = 22024 } #BUR: The vassalation of Friesland
}
action_c = {
name = "ACTIONNAME22022C" #Be free
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -3 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 1000 }
command = { type = war which = BUR }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = GEL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = OLD value = 50 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 050515 } #Frisian Council *
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
}
}


any thoughts
 

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I am confused on why we have the same leader below as yes dormat on the same event


historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 050800 }
category = general
name = "Greate Pier"
startdate = {
year = 1515
}
deathdate = {
year = 1520
}
rank = 6
movement = 4
fire = 3
shock = 4
siege = 1
dormant = yes
}
historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 050801 }
category = admiral
name = "Greate Pier"
startdate = {
year = 1515
}
deathdate = {
year = 1520
}
rank = 6
movement = 4
fire = 3
shock = 4
siege = 0
dormant = yes
}


#(1514-1516) The sale of Friesland
event = {
id = 22022
trigger = {
exists = GEL
}
random = no
country = FRI
name = "EVENTNAME22007" #The sale of Friesland
desc = "EVENTHIST22022"
#-#Friesland agreed to be subjugated by Charles of Egmond, Duke of Guelders in October 1514. Heindrich sold his portion of West Friesland to his brother Georg, who sold it in May 1515, to Charles II of Burgundy. The Frisians were so outraged that their land had been sold to the count of Holland (their enemy-by-inheritance) that they called upon Charles of Egmond.

date = { day = 2 month = october year = 1514 }
offset = 25
deathdate = { day = 2 month = february year = 1516 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME22022A" #Call upon Charles of Egmond (End Game)
command = { type = trigger which = 22023 } #GEL: The Frisians call upon us to assist them
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME22022B" #Submit to Charles II
command = { type = trigger which = 22024 } #BUR: The vassalation of Friesland
}
action_c = {
name = "ACTIONNAME22022C" #Be free
command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -3 }
command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 1000 }
command = { type = war which = BUR }
command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -200 }
command = { type = relation which = GEL value = 50 }
command = { type = relation which = OLD value = 50 }
command = { type = wakemonarch which = 050515 } #Frisian Council *
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
}
}


any thoughts

EDIT : maybe the answer is to move this line
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
from option c
to option a

Greate Pier Donia did fight with the GEL as per below

the Black Band, a Landsknecht regiment in the service of George, Duke of Saxony was quartered. The regiment was charged with suppressing the civil war between the Vetkopers, who opposed Burgundian and subsequently Habsburg rule, and the Schieringers. The Black Band were notorious as a violent military force; when their pay was insufficient or lacking, they would extract payments from local villagers[10] and on 29 January 1515, the Black Band plundered Donia's village, then allegedly raped and killed his wife, Rintze Syrtsema, and burnt to the ground both the village church and Donia's estate.[11][12] Seeking revenge, Pier started a guerrilla war campaign against the Habsburgs and allied himself with Charles of Egmond, Duke of Guelders (1492–1538), the foremost opponent of the Habsburgs
 

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EDIT : maybe the answer is to move this line
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
from option c
to option a

Greate Pier Donia did fight with the GEL as per below

the Black Band, a Landsknecht regiment in the service of George, Duke of Saxony was quartered. The regiment was charged with suppressing the civil war between the Vetkopers, who opposed Burgundian and subsequently Habsburg rule, and the Schieringers. The Black Band were notorious as a violent military force; when their pay was insufficient or lacking, they would extract payments from local villagers[10] and on 29 January 1515, the Black Band plundered Donia's village, then allegedly raped and killed his wife, Rintze Syrtsema, and burnt to the ground both the village church and Donia's estate.[11][12] Seeking revenge, Pier started a guerrilla war campaign against the Habsburgs and allied himself with Charles of Egmond, Duke of Guelders (1492–1538), the foremost opponent of the Habsburgs

I also think that FRI leader 050801 should be changed to this person

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wierd_Jelckama

historicalleader = {
id = { type = 6 id = 050801 }
category = general
name = "Wijerd Jelckama"
startdate = {
year = 1515
}
deathdate = {
year = 1523
}
rank = 3
movement = 3
fire = 3
shock = 3
siege = 0
dormant = yes
}
 

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Final version of FRI_22022 will be:
Code:
#(1514-1516) The sale of Friesland
event = {
	id = 22022
	trigger = {
		exists = GEL
	}
	random = no
	country = FRI
	name = "EVENTNAME22007" #The sale of Friesland
	desc = "EVENTHIST22022"
	#-#

	date = { day = 2 month = october year = 1514 }
	offset = 25
	deathdate = { day = 2 month = february year = 1516 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022A" #Call upon Charles of Egmond (End Game)
		[COLOR="yellow"]command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)[/COLOR]
		command = { type = trigger which = 22023 } #GEL: The Frisians call upon us to assist them
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022B" #Submit to Charles II
		command = { type = trigger which = 22024 } #BUR: The vassalation of Friesland
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022C" #Be free
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 1000 }
		command = { type = war which = BUR }
		command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEL value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = OLD value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 050515 } #Frisian Council *
		[COLOR="Red"]command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)[/COLOR]
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #[COLOR="Yellow"]Wijerd Jelckama[/COLOR] (FRI)
	}
}
#-#Friesland agreed to be subjugated by Charles of Egmond, Duke of Guelders in October 1514. Heindrich sold his portion of West Friesland to his brother Georg, who sold it in May 1515, to Charles II of Burgundy. The Frisians were so outraged that their land had been sold to the count of Holland (their enemy-by-inheritance) that they called upon Charles of Egmond.

Same for FRI_22025:
Code:
#(1515) The sale of Friesland
event = {
	id = 22025 #triggered by U16_22009 / SAC_273038
	trigger = {
		NOT = { exists = GEL }
	}
	random = no
	country = FRI
	name = "EVENTNAME22007" #The sale of Friesland
	desc = "EVENTHIST22007"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022B" #Submit to Charles II
		command = { type = trigger which = 137050 } #BUR: Effect of the sale of Friesland
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022C" #Be free
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 1000 }
		command = { type = war which = BUR }
		command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEL value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = OLD value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 050515 } #Frisian Council *
		[COLOR="Red"]command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)[/COLOR]
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #[COLOR="Yellow"]Wijerd Jelckama[/COLOR] (FRI)
	}
}
#-#In 1515, Georg had become so dissapointed with being unable to control Friesland that he sold it to Charles II of Burgundy, who was trying to unite the Netherlands.


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Final version of FRI_22022 will be:
Code:
#(1514-1516) The sale of Friesland
event = {
	id = 22022
	trigger = {
		exists = GEL
	}
	random = no
	country = FRI
	name = "EVENTNAME22007" #The sale of Friesland
	desc = "EVENTHIST22022"
	#-#

	date = { day = 2 month = october year = 1514 }
	offset = 25
	deathdate = { day = 2 month = february year = 1516 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022A" #Call upon Charles of Egmond (End Game)
		[COLOR="yellow"]command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)[/COLOR]
		command = { type = trigger which = 22023 } #GEL: The Frisians call upon us to assist them
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022B" #Submit to Charles II
		command = { type = trigger which = 22024 } #BUR: The vassalation of Friesland
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022C" #Be free
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 1000 }
		command = { type = war which = BUR }
		command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEL value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = OLD value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 050515 } #Frisian Council *
		[COLOR="Red"]command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)[/COLOR]
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #[COLOR="Yellow"]Wijerd Jelckama[/COLOR] (FRI)
	}
}
#-#Friesland agreed to be subjugated by Charles of Egmond, Duke of Guelders in October 1514. Heindrich sold his portion of West Friesland to his brother Georg, who sold it in May 1515, to Charles II of Burgundy. The Frisians were so outraged that their land had been sold to the count of Holland (their enemy-by-inheritance) that they called upon Charles of Egmond.

Same for FRI_22025:
Code:
#(1515) The sale of Friesland
event = {
	id = 22025 #triggered by U16_22009 / SAC_273038
	trigger = {
		NOT = { exists = GEL }
	}
	random = no
	country = FRI
	name = "EVENTNAME22007" #The sale of Friesland
	desc = "EVENTHIST22007"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022B" #Submit to Charles II
		command = { type = trigger which = 137050 } #BUR: Effect of the sale of Friesland
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME22022C" #Be free
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = centralization value = -3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = serfdom value = -2 }
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 1000 }
		command = { type = war which = BUR }
		command = { type = relation which = BUR value = -200 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEL value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = OLD value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 050515 } #Frisian Council *
		[COLOR="Red"]command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)[/COLOR]
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #[COLOR="Yellow"]Wijerd Jelckama[/COLOR] (FRI)
	}
}
#-#In 1515, Georg had become so dissapointed with being unable to control Friesland that he sold it to Charles II of Burgundy, who was trying to unite the Netherlands.


Right?

in event 22025 i will keep both leaders in so it would be

command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #Wijerd Jelckama (FRI)
 

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About post #1026 and alternative Burgundian capital events, BUR_137000 can still happen but action_b "Remain in Dijon" and its effects doesn't make sense. II and III don't have an option to stay in Dijon while original historical event have one. I think each Burgundian capital should sleep the other two and we need a new event to relocate in Brabant as soon as possible with only few effects if II or III happened before and Brussels flag is set (if Dijon action_b not chosen in II or III).

yes, your new condition should apply for both events
I still need a final proposal for the reworked Geldrian succession crisis sequence before inclusion.
 

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in event 22025 i will keep both leaders in so it would be

command = { type = wakeleader which = 050800 } #Greate Pier (FRI)
command = { type = wakeleader which = 050801 } #Wijerd Jelckama (FRI)
Ok