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Saratow is often separated from Golden Horde mainland as the result of events. War against Russia can become endless as very bad result because warscore will be too low. I suggest to include this province in following events:
Code:
#(1466) Splintering of the Horde and Kazan
event = {
	id = 287027 #triggered by STE_3689 A
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			owned = { province = 447 data = -1 } #Tambow
			[COLOR=Yellow]owned = { province = 452 data = -1 } #Saratow[/COLOR]
			owned = { province = 453 data = -1 } #Ufa
			owned = { province = 454 data = -1 } #Samara
		}
		neighbour = KAZ
	}
	random = no
	country = STE
	name = "EVENTNAME287027" #Splintering of the Horde and Kazan
	desc = "EVENTHIST3689"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME287027A" #And so our power weakens further
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 447 } #Tambow
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 452 } #Saratow[/COLOR]
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 453 } #Ufa
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 454 } #Samara
	}
}
#-#Until the disintegration of the Mongol empire (14th cent.) the khans themselves were under the suzerainty of the great khan at Karakorum. In the early 14th century the empire of the Golden Horde adopted Islam as its official religion. Thus, Russia was exposed to both Muslim and Asian civilization. Internecine warfare among the Tatar leaders and attempts by the Russian princes, such as Dmitri Donskoi, to end tributary payments contributed to the decline of the Empire of the Golden Horde in the late 14th cent. The state was conquered by Timur, who in 1395 dealt a final blow by sacking Sarai Berke. After his death the empire broke up into the independent khanates of Astrakhan, Kazan, Crimea, and Sibir.

Code:
#(1500-1820) The Collapse of the Golden Horde
event = {
	id = 287002
	trigger = {
		control = { province = 458 data = CRI }
	}
	random = no
	country = STE
	name = "EVENTNAME287002" #The Collapse of the Golden Horde
	desc = "EVENTHIST287002"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1500 }
	offset = 5
	deathdate = { year = 1820 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME287002A" #Our power is broken
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = population which = -2 value = -10000 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 446 } #Kazan
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 447 } #Tambow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 453 } #Ufa
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 454 } #Samara
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 452 } #Saratow - just in case[/COLOR]
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 452 } #Saratow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = AST value = 455 } #Uralsk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = AST value = 456 } #Orenburg
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME287002B" #We shall never give up!
		command = { type = stability value = -4 }
		command = { type = population which = -2 value = -10000 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 453 } #Ufa
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = AST value = 455 } #Uralsk
		command = { type = war which = KAZ }
		command = { type = war which = AST }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 120 value = 6 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = desertion which = -1 value = 5000 }
	}
}
#-#In 1502, Mengli Giray of Crimea captured and destroyed the city of Sarai capital of the Golden Horde. The last piece in its decline, the Golden Horde vanished as a political entity, with this act. Members of the Golden Horde still lived on hoping to rekindle lost glory, but the days of the Golden Horde were over.

Code:
#(1500-1820) The Demise of the Golden Horde
event = {
	id = 287004 #triggered by STE_287003 A
	random = no
	country = STE
	name = "EVENTNAME287004" #The Demise of the Golden Horde
	desc = "EVENTHIST287004"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "DAMN"
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 446 } #Kazan
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 447 } #Tambow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 453 } #Ufa
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 454 } #Samara
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = secedeprovince which = KAZ value = 452 } #Saratow - just in case[/COLOR]
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = RUS value = 452 } #Saratow
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = AST value = 455 } #Uralsk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = AST value = 456 } #Orenburg
	}
}
#-#The collapse of the Golden Horde allowed the khanates of Kazan and Astrakhan to expand their borders. They were to be the successors to the legacy of the Golden Horde.



Problem could be the same for Bogutjar but this province is almost always lost by Golden Horde very early.
 

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Came across an interesting tidbit while doing research for Crimea recently. Apparently, the Golden Horde was actually divided into two about the time that Crimea was formed. That's why there are so many conflict accounts of who was the Great Khan at the time as there were two separate entities that had two different (although somewhat similar) foreign policies. For now, I don't think we really need to do much about this, although I will work on the monarch list to only follow one of the two branches...and I might perhaps add a few leaders from the branch we don't represent. Someday though...we might think of throwing an extra tag in that direction.
 

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So I'm still working on this (/certainly trying to come up with more trigger conditions to make the sequence more flexible) but here's what I've been working on to show the role to which Crimea's neighbors played a role in her history. I've been thinking that if Mengli Giray isn't ruler of Crimea than the sequence that has Crimea become an Ottoman vassal won't fire. That's still to come.

Code:
#(1471) Mengli Giray of Crimea
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 465 data = -1 } #Kerch
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = GEN } }
	}
	random = no
	country = GEN
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Mengli Giray of Crimea
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1471 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1471 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Keep them occupied!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 50 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = xx } #GEN: Mengli Giray overreaches
	}
}

With the death of Hajji I of Crimea, a struggle ensued for the title of khan. Although Nur Dawlat was the rightful heir by the succession laws of the Golden Horde, Mengli, Hajji's other son, had the support of ambitious clansmen. Taking refuge in the Genoese colonies, Mengli asked for Genoa's support in overthrowing his brother. Nur Dawlat had become a concern for Genoese merchants as his strong handed rule threatened Genoese trading in the region.

Code:
#(1471) Genoa backs the pretender
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by GEN_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Genoa backs the pretender
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #A new Khan!
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which =  } #Mengli I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which =  } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = wakeleader which =  } #Mamak Mirza (CRI)
	}
}
Although in 1469, Nur Dawlat had been able to dislodge his brother from the peninsula, Mengli was still a threat. Mengli turned to Genoa for backing of his claim to the throne. In 1471, with the assistance of Genoa and the backing of much of the Crimean aristocracy, Mengli successfully overthrew his brother. Nur Dawlat would have to bide his time on the sidelines.

Code:
#(1474) Nur Dawlat and the Khanate of Crimea
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 465 data = -1 } #Kerch
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = GEN } }
		event =  #GEN: Mengli Giray of Crimea
	}
	random = no
	country = GEN
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Nur Dawlat and the Khanate of Crimea
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1474 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1474 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Support him!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 100 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -25 }
	}
}
While the succession struggle in Crimea kept the tatars occupied, unfortunately, Mengli was turning out just like his brother. Once again, a strong khan was threatening Genoese trade. Unhappy with the curtailing of their former privileges, a few prominent clansmen approached Genoa with a scheme to re-install Nur Dawlat.


Code:
#(1474) Nur Dawlat returns
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by GEN_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Nur Dawlat returns
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #His second reign
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which =  } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which =  } #Mengli I
		#command = { type = wakeleader which =  } #Eminek Mirza (CRI)  -make him a non-dormant leader 3-1-3 (1474-1484)
	}
}
Dissatisfied with Mengli's attempts to curtail their power, a few dissatisfied nobles approached the Genoese with a scheme to re-install Nur Dawlat. Mengli quickly found himself removed from power.

Code:
#(1475-1820) Conquest of Genoese strongholds
event = {
	id = 301009 #triggered by GEN_174022
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME301009" #Conquest of Genoese strongholds
	desc = "EVENTHIST301009"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301009A" #It is ours
		command = { type = addcore which = 465 } #Kerch
		command = { type = population which = 465 value = -2000 } #Kerch
		command = { type = population which = 357 value = 2000 } #Thrace
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -100 }
	}
}
After the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans, it became increasingly difficult for Genoa to maintain its possessions in the Black Sea. The Bank of San Giorgio in Genoa was administrating the holdings since 1453, the most important strongholds were the two fortresses Chembalo and Sudak, and the city Kaffa. In 1475, after an invitation from disatisfied Crimean nobles to invade the peninsula in exchange for Turkish support against their khan, a large Turkish fleet under Grand Vizier Keduk Akhmet Pasha arrived to conduct a naval landing and started to besiege Kaffawith Tatar aid. After five days Kaffa surrendered and 500 Genoese families were sent to Constantinople, many leaders manage to flee to Mangup, including the governor Antonietto da Cabella and the general Francisco Guasconcini.

Code:
#(1475) Mengli and the Ottomans
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		event = 301009 #TUR: Conquest of Genoese strongholds
		OR = {
			event = xx #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
			NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Mengli and the Ottomans
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1475 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1475 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #Mengli is khan
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -150 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which =  } #Mengli I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which =  } #Nur Dawlat I
	}
}
Ever fickle, the leading Crimean tribes quickly became alarmed at Nur Dawlat's close relationship with the Genoese. In 1475, the Shirin bey formally requested that the Ottoman sultan conquer Kaffa, which would eliminate Nur Dawlat's ally. The succesful Turkish conquest of Kaffa allowed for Mengli to become khan.

Code:
#(1476) The lands of Crimea
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = STE } }
		OR = {
			event = xx #CRI: Mengli and the Ottomans
			AND = {
				event = xx #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
				NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
			}
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = STE
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #The lands of Crimea
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1476 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1476 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Support him!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 50 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: The Golden Horde revives it's claim
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -25 }
	}
}
In 1475, Mengli Giray wrote a letter to the Ottoman sultan promising to be "the enemy of the Sultan's enemy, the friend of his friend." Such news was troubling to the khan of the Golden Horde as the khanate had never ceased to claim that the Crimean lands were rightuflly theirs. In an attempt to head off Ottoman influence, the khan sent a full scale invasion to place Nur Dawlat as a puppet ruler.

Code:
#(1476) The Golden Horde revives it's claim
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by STE_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #The Golden Horde revives it's claim
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #He reigns again
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = STE value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which =  } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which =  } #Mengli I
	}
}
In 1475, Mengli Giray wrote a letter to the Ottoman sultan promising to be "the enemy of the Sultan's enemy, the friend of his friend." Alarmed by Mengli Giray's Ottoman friendly gestures, the Golden Horde sent a full invasion force to put Nur Dawlat in his place. The khan also sent a governor to oversee Nur Dawlat's activities.

Code:
#(1478) Mengli Giray's Promise
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = TUR } }
		OR = {
			event = xx #CRI: The Golden Horde revives it's claim
			AND = {
				event = xx #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
				NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Mengli and the Ottomans
			}
			NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Mengli Giray's Promise
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1478 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1478 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Support him!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 150 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: The Death of Nur Dawlat
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -25 }
	}
}
In 1478, annoyed with their khan, several prominent Crimean beys approached the Ottoman sultan about support the claims of the khan's brother, Mengli Giray. Their candidate for the khanship was very friendly to the Ottomans and even went so far as to promise a pledge of obedience.

Code:
#(1478) The Death of Nur Dawlat
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by TUR_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #The Death of Nur Dawlat
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #Finally!
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = STE value = -150 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which =  } #Mengli I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which =  } #Nur Dawlat I
	}
}
In 1478 at the bequest of several prominent Crimean beys, Mehmed sent Mengli Giray, accompanied by the Ottoman army, to invade Crimea. With Mengli Giray's enthronement, Ottoman authority in the region became unquestioned.
 

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So I'm still working on this (/certainly trying to come up with more trigger conditions to make the sequence more flexible) but here's what I've been working on to show the role to which Crimea's neighbors played a role in her history. I've been thinking that if Mengli Giray isn't ruler of Crimea than the sequence that has Crimea become an Ottoman vassal won't fire. That's still to come.
I will wait for inclusion. Please let me know.
 

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Can we have Kalmuk back to being Buddist? It has very special role as it was the only Mongol Country with a Buddisht National Religion, and right next to Russia no less. I think it adds a lot of style to have a Buddhist province, until it gets converted to Islam or Orthodoxy. It was like this in the original game so why did it get changed in AGCEEP? :confused:
 

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Kalmuk should indeed become Buddhist sometime in the early 17-th century.
Here is a link.

I think the prerequisite should be that Kalmuk is still Sunni. Of course, someone has to write an event for it...(not me:eek:).
 

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I just wrote an event for my personal version of the game that converts Kalmyk to Buddhism in the 17th century. Feel free to incorporate it into AGCEEP if you wish and modify it any way you like.

Code:
#########################################################################
# Buddhism spread in Kalmykia
#########################################################################
event = { 
	id = 685
	trigger = {
			provincereligion = {province = 467 data = sunni} #Kalmuk#
	}
	random = no
	province = 467
	name = "EVENTNAME_A43"
	desc = "EVENTHIST_A43"
	style = 4

	date = { year = 1610 }
	offset = 5000

	action_a = {
			name = "EVENT_A43_A" #Buddhist migrants#
			command = { type = provincereligion which = 467 value = buddhism } #Kalmuk#
			command = { type = population which = 467 value = 4000 }
			command = { type = provincetax which = 467 value = 1 }
		}
	}

EVENTNAME_A43;Kalmyk Migration;;;;;;;;;;12871
EVENTHIST_A43;The Kalmyks, of Mongol origin, migrated to the Caspian region in the 17th century from Central Asia. Like other Mongols, the Kalmyk are Tibetan Buddhists, but their Buddhism has a strong admixture of indigenous beliefs and shamanistic practices.;;;;;;;;;;12872
EVENT_A43_A;Let them be;;;;;;;;;;12873

The event was written for vanilla, so you will have to modify the id and text.csv directors. The event has been tested and works properly - it will convert Kalmuk to Buddhism sometime in the first half of the 17-th century, but only if Kalmuk is still Sunni.
 

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Thanks.

Only problem with such event could be Crimea revolting as Buddhist country. Does it make sense? Should we have to force the religion in the entry for Crimea in revolt.txt to sunni? Will this forced religion be a better solution then?
 

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I suppose Kalmuk shouldn't be among Crimea's 'minimum' provinces in the first place. If it has to be than I think it would be better to set Crimea to Sunni. According to Encyclopaedia Britannica the migration of Kalmyks wasn't all that large. Any mongol state in the area would have Crimean Tatars as the ruling class I think. Today, the Kalmykian Republic is the only area in Europe with Buddhist majority.
 

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Actually, I don't see the problem with having the chance that Crimea revolts as Buddhist once that event has fired. That should be very rare, but if Crimea was revolting out of that province, the leadership would likely be Buddhist then.

The only thing I wonder about the event is context. What exactly should drive the Buddhists to come to Kalmuk?
 

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It's believed that Kalmyks, who arrived to Kalmykia circa 1630, were looking for pastures. For sure, they wouldn't arrived to poor region, but I don't know whether this can be somehow taken into account in triggers or not. However, having expelled Nogais, who lived here, Kalmyks created their own Khanate. I think, if that territory had been under Russian control, they wouldn't have been able to conquer it.

So I suggest to add:

NOT {owned = { province = 467 data = RUS } }
 

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History of Kalmykia

According to Wikipedia at least (which doesn't cite its sources on this one) the Kalmyk Khanate became vassals of the tsar within 25 years, and settled alongsides Russian settlers. The Khanate was located east of Caspian sea anywas, in the EU provinces Alga, Irgiz, Orsk. It was fully incorporated in 18th century. It's probably OK for Russia to own 467, as that specific province was not part of the Khanate. Also, there should be a revolter/formed-by-event Buddhist state called Kalmyk Khanate, located in the three provinces I've mentioned, and later conquering a bunch of provinces up to Aral sea, as per this link.

On a side note, the Kalmyks also settled elsewere on the Steppes, so a couple provincetax-raising events could be appropriate.

The problem with Buddhist Krimea is ahistorical monarchs-the khans of Crimea were Sunni Tatars, not Buddhist Kalmyks.
 

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Here is an updated version of what I initially posted in post 123, with added updates for monarchs. I still need to create the two leaders that are cited in the events (as well as I need to figure out what to do with the Mengli leader as it doesn't make sense to have him if Nur Dawlat wins).

Code:
#(1471) Mengli Giray of Crimea
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 465 data = -1 } #Kerch
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = GEN } }
	}
	random = no
	country = GEN
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Mengli Giray of Crimea
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1471 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1471 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Keep them occupied!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 50 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = xx } #GEN: Mengli Giray overreaches
	}
}

With the death of Hajji I of Crimea, a struggle ensued for the title of khan. Although Nur Dawlat was the rightful heir by the succession laws of the Golden Horde, Mengli, Hajji's other son, had the support of ambitious clansmen. Taking refuge in the Genoese colonies, Mengli asked for Genoa's support in overthrowing his brother. Nur Dawlat had become a concern for Genoese merchants as his stronghanded rule threatened Genoese trading in the region.

Code:
#(1471) Genoa backs the pretender
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by GEN_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Genoa backs the pretender
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #A new Khan!
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 037502 } #Mengli I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037501 } #Nur Dawlat I
		#command = { type = wakeleader which =  } #Mamak Mirza (CRI)
	}
}

Although in 1469, Nur Dawlat had been able to dislodge his brother from the peninsula, Mengli was still a threat. Mengli turned to Genoa for backing of his claim to the throne. In 1471, with the assistance of Genoa and the backing of much of the Crimean aristocracy, Mengli succesfully overthrew his brother. Nur Dawlat would have to bide his time on the sidelines.

Code:
#(1474) Nur Dawlat and the Khanate of Crimea
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		owned = { province = 465 data = -1 } #Kerch
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = GEN } }
		event =  #GEN: Mengli Giray of Crimea
	}
	random = no
	country = GEN
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Nur Dawlat and the Khanate of Crimea
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1474 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1474 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Support him!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 100 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -25 }
	}
}
While the succession struggle in Crimea kept the tatars occupied, unfortunately, Mengli was turning out just like his brother. Once again, a strong khan was threatening Genoese trade. Unhappy with the curtailing of their former privileges, a few prominent clansmen approached Genoa with a scheme to re-install Nur Dawlat.

Code:
#(1474) Nur Dawlat returns
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by GEN_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Nur Dawlat returns
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #His second reign
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 037503 } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037502 } #Mengli I
		#command = { type = wakeleader which =  } #Eminek Mirza (CRI)  -make him a non-dormant leader 3-1-3 (1474-1484)?
	}
}
Dissatisfied with Mengli's attempts to curtail their power, a few dissatisfied nobles approached the Genoese with a scheme to re-install Nur Dawlat. Mengli quickly found himself removed from power.

Code:
#(1475-1820) Conquest of Genoese strongholds
event = {
	id = 301009 #triggered by GEN_174022
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME301009" #Conquest of Genoese strongholds
	desc = "EVENTHIST301009"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301009A" #It is ours
		command = { type = addcore which = 465 } #Kerch
		command = { type = population which = 465 value = -2000 } #Kerch
		command = { type = population which = 357 value = 2000 } #Thrace
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -100 }
	}
}
After the fall of Constantinople to the Ottomans, it became increasingly difficult for Genoa to maintain its possessions in the Black Sea. The Bank of San Giorgio in Genoa was administrating the holdings since 1453, the most important strongholds were the two fortresses Chembalo and Sudak, and the city Kaffa. In 1475, after an invitation from disatisfied Crimean nobles to invade the peninsula in exchange for Turkish support against their khan, a large Turkish fleet under Grand Vizier Keduk Akhmet Pasha arrived to conduct a naval landing and started to besiege Kaffawith Tatar aid. After five days Kaffa surrendered and 500 Genoese families were sent to Constantinople, many leaders manage to flee to Mangup, including the governor Antonietto da Cabella and the general Francisco Guasconcini.

Code:
#(1475) Mengli and the Ottomans
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		event = 301009 #TUR: Conquest of Genoese strongholds
		OR = {
			event = xx #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
			NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Mengli and the Ottomans
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1475 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1475 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #Mengli is khan
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -150 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 037504 } #Mengli I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037501 } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037503 } #Nur Dawlat I
	}
}
Ever fickle, the leading Crimean tribes quickly became alarmed at Nur Dawlat's close relationship with the Genoese. In 1475, the Shirin bey formally requested that the Ottoman sultan conquer Kaffa, which would eliminate Nur Dawlat's ally. The succesful Turkish conquest of Kaffa allowed for Mengli to become khan.

Code:
#(1476) The lands of Crimea
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = STE } }
		OR = {
			event = xx #CRI: Mengli and the Ottomans
			AND = {
				event = xx #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
				NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
			}
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = STE
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #The lands of Crimea
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1476 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1476 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Support him!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 50 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: The Golden Horde revives it's claim
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -25 }
	}
}
In 1475, Mengli Giray wrote a letter to the Ottoman sultan promising to be "the enemy of the Sultan's enemy, the friend of his friend." Such news was troubling to the khan of the Golden Horde as the khanate had never ceased to claim that the Crimean lands were rightuflly theirs. In an attempt to head off Ottoman influence, the khan sent a full scale invasion to place Nur Dawlat as a puppet ruler.

Code:
#(1476) The Golden Horde revives it's claim
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by STE_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #The Golden Horde revives it's claim
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #He reigns again
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = STE value = 50 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 037505 } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037502 } #Mengli I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037504 } #Mengli I
	}
}
In 1475, Mengli Giray wrote a letter to the Ottoman sultan promising to be "the enemy of the Sultan's enemy, the friend of his friend." Alarmed by Mengli Giray's Ottoman friendly gestures, the Golden Horde sent a full invasion force to put Nur Dawlat in his place. The khan also sent a governor to oversee Nur Dawlat's activities.

Code:
#(1478) Mengli Giray's Promise
event = {
	id = xx
	trigger = {
		exists = { CRI }
		NOT = { war = { country = CRI country = TUR } }
		OR = {
			event = xx #CRI: The Golden Horde revives it's claim
			AND = {
				event = xx #CRI: Nur Dawlat returns
				NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Mengli and the Ottomans
			}
			NOT = { event = xx } #CRI: Genoa backs the pretender
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #Mengli Giray's Promise
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	date = { day = 5 month = january year = 1478 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 10 month = december year = 1478 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxA" #Support him!
		command = { type = relation which = CRI value = 150 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -15 }
		command = { type = trigger which = xx } #CRI: The Death of Nur Dawlat
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAMExxB" #We have bigger concerns
		command = { type = merchants value = -2 }
		command = { type = trade value = -25 }
	}
}
In 1478, annoyed with their khan, several prominent Crimean beys approached the Ottoman sultan about support the claims of the khan's brother, Mengli Giray. Their candidate for the khanship was very friendly to the Ottomans and even went so far as to promise a pledge of obedience.

Code:
#(1478) The Death of Nur Dawlat
event = {
	id = xx #triggered by TUR_
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAMExx" #The Death of Nur Dawlat
	desc = "EVENTHISTxx"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME40063A" #Finally!
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = STE value = -150 }
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 037506 } #Mengli I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037501 } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037503 } #Nur Dawlat I
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 037505 } #Nur Dawlat I
	}
}
In 1478 at the bequest of several prominent Crimean beys, Mehmed sent Mengli Giray, accompanied by the Ottoman army, to invade Crimea. With Mengli Giray's enthronement, Ottoman authority in the region became unquestioned.

Code:
#(14[color=limegreen]78[/color]-1700) Crimean Khanate seeks Ottoman support
event = {
	id = 152060
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			AND = {
				neighbour = RUS
				exists = TUR
			}
			AND = {
				neighbour = TUR
				OR = {
					exists = RUS
					exists = MOS
				}
			}
		}
		NOT = { countrysize = 5 }
		NOT = {
			vassal = { country = TUR country = CRI }
			vassal = { country = CRI country = TUR }
			war = { country = CRI country = TUR }
		}
		[color=yellow]NOT ={
			monarch = 037501 #Nur Dawlat I
			monarch = 037503 #Nur Dawlat I
			monarch = 037505 #Nur Dawlat I
		}[/color]
	}
	random = no
	country = CRI
	name = "EVENTNAME152060" #Crimean Khanate seeks Ottoman support
	desc = "EVENTHIST152060"
	#-#

	[color=red]date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1466 }[/color]
	[color=yellow]date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1478 }[/color]
	[color=red]offset = 500[/color]
	[color=yellow]offset = 200[/color]
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1700 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME152060A" #Offer our vassalage to the Ottomans
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = diplomats value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = TUR value = 50 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 301050 } #TUR: Crimean Khanate seeks Ottoman support
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME152060B" #We can stand on our own
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	}
}
While Russia managed to overtake the other Khanates of the European steppe in the 16th century, the Khanate of Crimea lasted well into the 1700s. A major reason for this longevity was the support of the Ottoman Empire.

Code:
#(14[color=limegreen]78[/color]-1700) Crimean Khanate seeks Ottoman support
event = {
	id = 301050 #triggered by CRI_152060 A
	random = no
	country = TUR
	name = "EVENTNAME301050" #Crimean Khanate seeks Ottoman support
	desc = "EVENTHIST301050"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301050A" #We accept them as our allies and vassals
		command = { type = vassal which = CRI }
		command = { type = alliance which = CRI }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = CRI value = 459 } #Lugansk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = CRI value = 460 } #Donetsk
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = CRI value = 461 } #Poltava
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = CRI value = 462 } #Krementjug
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME301050B" #Avoid northern entanglements
		command = { type = vp value = -50 }
	}
}
While Russia managed to overtake the other Khanates of the European steppe in the 16th century, the Khanate of Crimea lasted well into the 1700s. A major reason for this longevity was the support of the Ottoman Empire.

Monarchs:
Code:
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 037501 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1466
	}
	deathdate = {
		[color=red]year = 1467[/color]
	        [color=yellow]year = 1515[/color]
	}
	name = "Nur Dawlat I"
	DIP = 3
	MIL = 5
	ADM = 3
	dormant = no
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 037502 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1467
	}
	deathdate = {
		[color=red]year = 1474[/color]
                [color=yellow]year = 1515[/color]
	}
	name = "Mengli I"
	DIP = 6
	MIL = 6
	ADM = 4
	dormant = [color=limegreen]yes[/color]
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 037503 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1474
	}
	deathdate = {
		[color=red]year = 1475[/color]
                [color=yellow]year = 1515[/color]
	}
	name = "Nur Dawlat I"
	DIP = 5
	MIL = 3
	ADM = 5
	dormant = [color=limegreen]yes[/color]
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 037504 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1475
	}
	deathdate = {
		[color=red]year = 1476[/color]
                [color=yellow]year = 1515[/color]
	}
	name = "Mengli I"
	DIP = 6
	MIL = 6
	ADM = 4
	dormant = [color=limegreen]yes[/color]
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 037505 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1476
	}
	deathdate = {
		[color=red]year = 1478[/color]
                [color=yellow]year = 1515[/color]
	}
	name = "Nur Dawlat I"
	DIP = 3
	MIL = 5
	ADM = 3
	dormant = [color=limegreen]yes[/color]
}
historicalmonarch = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 037506 }
	startdate = {
		year = 1478
	}
	deathdate = {
		year = 1515
	}
	name = "Mengli I"
	DIP = 6
	MIL = 6
	ADM = 4
	dormant = [color=limegreen]yes[/color]
}
 

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Here is an updated version of what I initially posted in post 123, with added updates for monarchs. I still need to create the two leaders that are cited in the events (as well as I need to figure out what to do with the Mengli leader as it doesn't make sense to have him if Nur Dawlat wins).
Still witing for inclusion or is it safe now?
 

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In the GEN "Mengli Giray of Crimea" event, I have no idea of the possible id for GEN "Mengli Giray overreaches" that should be slept in action_b. There is no such event. Is it a leftover?

For confirmation, is the leader to be made dormant 037802 "Mengli I"?

Why not have:
Code:
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 037802 } #Mengli I (CRI)
in the CRI "Death of Nur Dawlat" event then?

There is a little consistency problem with monarchs. If "Death of Nur Dawlat" event fires and Crimea disappears and then reappears before 1515, default monarch will be... 037501 "Nur Dawlat I". There is no mention of his death in the description of the event. Could the name of the event be changed to something like "Ottoman authority over Crimea"? Affordable?
 
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In the GEN "Mengli Giray of Crimea" event, I have no idea of the possible id for GEN "Mengli Giray overreaches" that should be slept in action_b. There is no such event. Is it a leftover?
Actually that's a result of me not updating the text when I changed the event name. It should sleep "#GEN: Nur Dawlat and the Khanate of Crimea".

For confirmation, is the leader to be made dormant 037802 "Mengli I"?

Why not have:
Code:
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 037802 } #Mengli I (CRI)
in the CRI "Death of Nur Dawlat" event then?

Yes that is sensible enough.

There is a little consistency problem with monarchs. If "Death of Nur Dawlat" event fires and Crimea disappears and then reappears before 1515, default monarch will be... 037501 "Nur Dawlat I". There is no mention of his death in the description of the event. Could the name of the event be changed to something like "Ottoman authority over Crimea"? Affordable?

Sure your suggested name is fine with me.
 

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