Toio said:while reading about the HRE for another thread I cam across this article
The external boundaries of the Holy Roman Empire varied over time. In particular, the western boundary shifted many times eastward, as French kings encroached on the Empire as they enlarged their domains. Thus Provence (1246), Dauphiné (1335), the bishoprics of Metz, Toul, Verdun (1558), Alsace (1648), Franche-Comté (1678), Lorraine (1736), the west bank of the Rhine (1801) were incorporated into France after being ceded by the Emperors. There were losses elsewhere: the Swiss cantons, practically independent of their Habsburg overlords since the Middle Ages, were formally set free at the Peace of Westphalia in 1648.
My question is , why is provence part of HRE when it was given up in 1246, also if its a game consideration, then please advise.
If the HRE borders cannot be moved at any time during the game , then should we set the borders as around 1600?
Johan added it and some of the other lost territories a patch or two back as I recall. I would guess that it was done to represent claims that an aggressive player may wish to recover. I know at least one Emperor gave it a shot during the game timeframe.