Vile treacherous Judas
- Nov 7, 2001
The HRE would not "give up" these lands, it would just not be able to extend the reforms to them initially; as I have said, there should be a possibility to integrate these territories (and gain cores) in later events. While my main reason to do it like this is that it is IMO good to power down the event as much as possible and more importantly that only gaining the non-electoral and non-archducal lands in the beginning and having to work more in order to get these as well will make for a more challenging and interesting game, it is also historically (or more correctly, by the logic within the ahistorical sequence) justified: the electors and archdukes had extensive regalia, i.e. king-like powers, within their holdings which would have been limited by the introduction of effective Imperial institutions, thus making the reforms apply to their possessions could not be on the agenda initially (any effective reform would have violated their regalia) and could only be done as a second step (by which the regalia would be abolished). It is not unrealistic that implementing massive reforms to Imperial laws and institutions and abolishing the regalia (which would have required renouncing the Golden Bull and the Privilegium Maius!) can, even by a powerful Emperor, not be done at once.bobtdwarf said:In your sequence it would be IMHO a bit odd to see a stronger HRE give up lands that the historic weaker one did. But I could have misread that part of your post.
If the historical HRE had "centralization 0", it would be an EU2 state in 1419; I think that the fact that we have the HRE split up in several independent states implies that we are assuming a "negative centralization" of the HRE that would be "increased to 0" by the unification. Centralizing the HRE by reforms would be a long-term process, and the event still happens in the beginning stage, hence the resulting new unified state should not be more centralized than any other EU2 country (and we do have countries with centralization 0).The only sequence quibble I could possibly have is having the reformed HRE with a centralisation of "0". IMO the HRE is the poster child for 0 centralisation states in its' historic form! This sequence should give it at the very least a 1 if not a 2 since it actually establishes some kind of central control over the non centralised "country". An event that is to increase central authority should at least in my eyes add to centralisation just a bit, but you could be reflecting that the HRE is going from a -1 centralisation to a 0.....