AGC/EEP: British Isles & France

[Bordic]

Bordic, give me a few minutes to fathom out what to do regarding this. I want a set of events which are both plausible and interesting. I'm removing the whole Hanovarian element, because I simply don't see it being an option unless a forceful pro-Protestant Parliament was in power, as was the case in 1701.

I'm still thinking it's a case of either James III or a Stuart pretender. Scott comes to mind, but he was killed in 1685, but we can work around that

Sorry, I have changed my post again:
if PURITANS won the Civil War, the Glorious Revolution ENG_3031 action A is taken and ENG is not protestant or refomed (no act of settlement even if William III was current king):

Yes I agree with removing the Hanoverian cause, but I don't know about any alternative, the less ahistorical possible...

 

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Regarding the Execution of King Charles event; I presume you want Charles to have to die? We don't have any events for if he lives afterall...

 

[Bordic]

Regarding the Execution of King Charles event; I presume you want Charles to have to die? We don't have any events for if he lives afterall...

Of course! It seems to me that this event should be simply triggered by current 1.41 event in action A (where 3025 is the English Civil War if action A is chosen, otherwise action B sleeps it!):

#Cromwell and the Republic#
# Edited by Johnny Canuck #
event = {
	id = 3026
	trigger = {
		event = 3025
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME3026" #Cromwell and the Republic
	desc = "EVENTHIST3026"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1649 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3026A" #Be Vengeful
		command = { type = inherit which = ROY }
		command = { type = religion which = reformed }
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 243 value = anglosaxon } #Wales
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 046021 } #Oliver Cromwell
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 046022 } #Richard Cromwell
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 046014 } #Charles I
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 233 value = -5 } #Meath
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 234 value = -5 } #Leinster
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 250 value = -5 } #Cornwall
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 246 value = -5 } #Bristol
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 243 value = -5 } #Wales
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 240 value = -5 } #Northumberland
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 5 } #removed LAND +2#
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -5 } #-5 from -2#
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -2 } #-2 from -1#
		command = { type = domestic which = OFFENSIVE value = 2 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3026B" #Be Merciful
		command = { type = inherit which = ROY }
		command = { type = religion which = protestant }
		command = { type = provinceculture which = 243 value = anglosaxon } #Wales
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 046021 } #Oliver Cromwell
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 046022 } #Richard Cromwell
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 046014 } #Charles I
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 233 value = -5 } #Meath
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 234 value = -5 } #Leinster
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 250 value = -5 } #Cornwall
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 246 value = -5 } #Bristol
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 243 value = -5 } #Wales
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 240 value = -5 } #Northumberland
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = OFFENSIVE value = 2 } #Removed LAND +2#
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	}
}

And the text:

Oliver Cromwell, a parliamentary member, had played a significant part as commander of forces leading to the Royalists defeat in 1646. While the Army was strong, the weak link of the Republic was the Parliament. It was filled with idealists and opportunists who did not want general elections until they had altered the system to be able to keep their seats. The Army was more concerned with being granted tax funds by a Parliament that had the legitimacy of the people. Finally, the Army lost patience and by force drove out the members of the House of Commons. Cromwell was proclaimed Lord Protector for life by the Generals and a very informal gathering elected to form a new constitution. The Generals made sure to put a great deal of the power in their own hands and a decree to keep a standing force of 30 000 men. Cromwell had the same problems with the new Parliament as the Kings preceding him had. The Government relied on the Army and rapidly England was becoming a country ruled by the military both centrally and locally.

 

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Okay doke, chief

I've done it this way...

#The English Civil War #
# Edited by Johnny Canuck#
event = {
id = 3025
trigger = {
domestic = { type = centralization value = 4 } #formerly 3#
domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 3 } #new#
}
random = no
country = ENG
name = "EVENTNAME3025" #The English Civil War
desc = "EVENTHIST3025"

date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1642 }
offset = 10
deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1642 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3025A" #Puritans
command = { type = sleepevent which = 3771 } #ENG: King Charles and the New Monarchy
command = { type = revolt which = 233 } #Meath
command = { type = revolt which = 234 } #Leinster
command = { type = revolt which = 250 } #Cornwall
command = { type = revolt which = 246 } #Bristol
command = { type = revolt which = 243 } #Wales
command = { type = revolt which = 240 } #Northumberland
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 233 value = 5 } #Meath
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 234 value = 5 } #Leinster
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 250 value = 5 } #Cornwall
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 246 value = 5 } #Bristol
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 243 value = 5 } #Wales
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 240 value = 5 } #Northumberland
command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 20000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 5000 }
command = { type = ART which = -2 value = 5 }
command = { type = sleepleader which = 046337 } #Prince Rupert (G) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
command = { type = sleepleader which = 046341 } #Prince Rupert (A) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
command = { type = relation which = HOL value = 100 }
command = { type = relation which = SWE value = 100 }
}
action_b = {
name = "ACTIONNAME3025B" #Royalists
command = { type = sleepevent which = 3026 } #ENG: Cromwell and the Republic
command = { type = sleepevent which = 164029 } #ENG: The Execution of King Charles
command = { type = revolt which = 248 } #Kent
command = { type = revolt which = 249 } #Wessex
command = { type = revolt which = 245 } #Lincoln
command = { type = revolt which = 244 } #Midlands
command = { type = revolt which = 232 } #Ulster
command = { type = revolt which = 242 } #Lancashire
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 248 value = 5 } #Kent
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 249 value = 5 } #Wessex
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 245 value = 5 } #Lincoln
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 244 value = 5 } #Midlands
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 232 value = 5 } #Ulster
command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 242 value = 5 } #Lancashire
command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 15000 }
command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 15000 }
command = { type = ART which = -2 value = 10 }
command = { type = wakeleader which = 046337 } #Prince Rupert (G) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
command = { type = wakeleader which = 046341 } #Prince Rupert (A) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
command = { type = sleepleader which = 046338 } #Monck (G) #George Monck (ENG)
command = { type = sleepleader which = 046340 } #Cromwell (ENG)
command = { type = sleepleader which = 046343 } #Monck (A) #Monck (ENG)
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 150 }
command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 150 }
}
}
#The Execution of King Charles#
event = {
id = 164029
trigger = {
event = 3025
}
random = no
country = ENG
name = "EVENTNAME164029" #The Execution of King Charles
desc = "EVENTHIST164029"

date = { day = 29 month = january year = 1649 }

action_a = {
name = "ACTIONNAME164029A" #The trecherous bastard is dead!
command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 2 }
command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -150 }
command = { type = relation which = HOL value = -150 }
command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -2 }
command = { type = diplomats value = -6 }
command = { type = stability value = -2 }
}
}

That would work, yes?

EDIT: I haven't finished the event yet. This is a template

 

[Bordic]

Okay doke, chief

I've done it this way...



That would work, yes?

EDIT: I haven't finished the event yet. This is a template

Don't know about DP moves, maybe we should reduce those in Cromwell event accordingly?

 

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Don't know about DP moves, maybe we should reduce those in Cromwell event accordingly?

Yes, perhaps.

Remember that to Cromwell personally, and most of the other Puritans in general, the King's execution was an absolute last resort. So, news of his death shook the land, and many involved regretted it (many also didn't, clearly) and so a good stability hit is needed. At least -2 IMO, but -3 maybe.

I'm going to make the Plague & Fire events -1 hits respectively, as well.

 

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Right, English alternate history time; as requested by Bordic

- No Act of Settlement is the result of a generally Tory (right wing, with deep roaylist sympathies) Parliament.

- No Act of Settlement means 1714 (Queen Anne's death; historical accession of George I) is just another year, and therefore the next in line to to throne is Anne's brother-in-law, James Stuart. James is about 25 at this point, and clearly a Catholic. However, he's the only member of the Royal Family left...

- But... what if James III had a (legitimate) child around this time?

- The "Bonnie" Prince, Charles Edward Stuart, was born in 1720 to James and his Polish wife, Maria Clementina Sobieska. But what if James had had a child earlier? It's quite plausible; lots of people have children in their 20s, especially kings

- This means that a choice can be made in 1714. Either James III becomes king as normal and the "traditional" ahistorical Stuart line continues through to 1820. So we have Bonnie Prince Charlie & Henry Benedict, etc, etc.

- OR, because of his faith and being a chip off the old James II block, Parliament demand James recants his catholicism. James of course refuses (we can't have two many choices, or the event chain will be murder to write up), and buggers off to France and can become a military leader under Philip Orleans' regency

- Thus, James' infant child (we'll make it a girl for flavour) is crowned, and a regency is set up until... ooh, I don't know... 1727 (George II ) when she assumes the throne in her own right, ruling for 40-odd or whatever years as a staunch protestant in the same vein as Mary & Anne.

Besides, it's damned hard for an ENG player not to have a Civil War, seeing as you only need 2 aristocracy or something like that.

With regards to the story (ie, the event text), it can be fairly generic stuff. These events will work equally well regardless of whether or not there was a Civil War beforehand. If there was, then the idea of not wanting another Catholic tyrant is an obvious one, and so fits perfectly with the Glorious Revolution theme as well. If no Civil War whatsoever (rare, but a possibility), then we can simply mention the fact that over the years Parliament has grown more powerful due to perhaps an ever stagnating monarchy, as well as influence from Louis XIV's style of absolute rule which the Commons & Lords both would frown upon; and therefore try and limit the monarch's power. We can add some flavour events as well, to make it more believable

In terms of effects & DP sliders and stuff...

- If James III is crowned, then the revolt risk in traditionally protestant provinces can rise, as will relations with France & the Papacy.

- He would demand a standing army (his father & uncle did), which would decrease manpower somewhat, as well as quality?

- A set of half a dozen or so events could be scripted with reference to religion. It'd be nice to have a sort of 'what if?' James II scenario, but with his son instead. By that, I of course mean an event to convert England to Catholicism, as well as a few revolts. Not a Civil War per se, but maybe a large uprising in the north.

- Of course, the player can be choose to remain Protestant, but these would be secondary choices, so the AI by default will (90% of the time) go down the old Catholic tyranny route

- If James' daughter is crowned (We'll call her Mary?), then she will generally be seen as a sigh of relief. Parliament will be happy because they've triumphed in so far as they can do what they want regarding a Regency (player could choose from one of two or three regents, with varying diplo/stability effects).

- England in general will be happy (+ stability) because of an easily influenced protestant on the throne, but being infant, Parliament is effectively running the country.

- Generally speaking, good events/stability and a sort of 'Enlightened Monarch' ala Catherine & Joseph, etc.

- However, a great twist would be an actual half-decent French invasion led by James to reclaim his throne. I don't mean a piss-pot attempt ala the Boyne, but a good fleet and a good sized army or something sent across the channel. This could be represented by several simaltaneous revolts in Plymouth, a couple of stab hits, severely brusied relationship with France, and a CB against them, along with a sister event for France (they'd have to have an event beforehand anyway, saying they support the invasion)

- Needless to say, relations with France would go down a lot should James III be exiled from England.

Well, that's my lot for now. I think that's relatively coherant so far.

England has always been a fairly liberal society, and we don't tend to accept despots and dictators, so even if the country had remained catholic (that's the trigger for this lot isn't it, not protestant?), it's fair to say that a similar set of events would have unfolded, just with less extremity than the events of 1688.

I can think up names, places & dates tomorrow, but I rekon that's class. It's about time England had more than one event in her fantasy folder

Either way, lots of nice event material out of that lot..

Good night

 

[Bordic]

Interesting reasoning...

Besides, it's damned hard for an ENG player not to have a Civil War, seeing as you only need 2 aristocracy or something like that.

Yes, it is! But, if a player doesn't want to convert to protestant or reformed he won't receive the event about the act of Settlement (in yellow my comments) already in agceep 1.41:

#Act of Settlement#
event = {
	id = 48010
	trigger = {
		monarch = 046024 #William III [COLOR=Yellow](only if ENG_3031 A or ENG_3028 B were chosen)[/COLOR]
		OR = {
			religion = protestant
			religion = reformed
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME48010" #The Act of Settlement
	desc = "EVENTHIST48010"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1701 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1701 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3143A" #Sign it
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = HAN value = 100 }
	}
}

Here is the eventdesc:
In 1701 Queen Anne's son died, leaving the succession in doubt. Therefore, the Catholic Stuarts could eventually reclaim the English Throne after her death. To prevent continued religious struggle, the Act of Settlement was signed, determining that every English king had to be a member of the Anglican Church, i.e. a Protestant. The Protestant with the closest ties to the Stuart Dynasty at that time was Sophie, the Mother of Elector George Ludwig of Hanover and granddaughter of King James I.


then the event below in whose trigger I would add the "check event before" too (in yellow):

#The Hanover Dynasty in England#
event = {
	id = 3612
	trigger = {
		[COLOR=Yellow]event = 48010 #ENG: The Act of Settlement[/COLOR]
		exists = ENG
		event = 3031 [COLOR=Yellow]#ENG: The Glorious Revolution PUR won Civil War[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = HAN
	name = "EVENTNAME3612" #The Hannover Dynasty in England
	desc = "EVENTHIST3612"
	#-#

	date = { day = 29 month = july year = 1714 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3612A" #I will be King of England
		command = { type = dynastic which = ENG }
		command = { type = relation which = ENG value = 100 }
	}
}

Here is the eventdesc:
The 1701 Act of Establishment had been voted to regulate the succession to the throne, ensuring no Catholic dynasty would ever rule England. When the personal union with Holland had ended in 1702 (death of William of Orange), his daughter Queen Ann (1702-1714) reigned but failed to provide a legitimate heir. The English crown went to George I of Hanover (1714-1727), her most direct parent. He and his son George II (1727-1760) were German born and would always follow closely the fate of their Electorate, making it in fact if not in law a vassal of England.


and consequently he won't receive the events sequence about the Hanoverian dynasty too , but he'll always get the Georges and the Jacobites...

***

Maybe we can simply work on events in the XVIII century considering the Civil war and Glorious Revolution as always happening...

here are the conditions and the minimum values with which the event ENG_3025 Civil War will fire:

trigger = {
		domestic = { type = centralization value = 4 } #formerly 3#
		domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 3 } #new#
	}

 

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It took me a while to think that lot up, so please try and make use of it

 

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Re: Act of Union (1707)

If England, Scotland should be annexed, and vice versa if Scotland.

The trigger is that the other nation is a vassal anyway, but the Act of Union was not like the Union of the Crowns (1603). In the latter, a personal union maintained the sovereignty of the two nations under a single monarch. In the former, however, the two ancient kingdoms were actually merged into one kingdom with one set of leglislation, etc. The fact is that as a political & military entity, Scotland ceased to exist from 1707. TBH, it's not very PC (in game terms) for England to 'annex' Scotland, but it's the best we have unless England has a tag to become Great Britain (ala Age of Imperialism) - but this is unfavourable since it requires the reworking of hundreds of events...

command = { type = flagname which = Union }
command = { type = inherit which = SCO } # New

I think that should be put in, to be honest.

It's stupid to see England with her Union Flag going to war against a Scotland who has just cancelled its vassalage and whatnot.

Scotland should have an event whereby they can either accept the Union or not. If they do, then they get a gameover event where they get annexed by England (by far the senior parter of the two in 1707), or they can refuse and England gets a CB on them, and Scotland gets a massive stability hit (-2 or -3) because they were basically bankrupt at the time anyway.

 

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Re: Ahistorical France

Is there a possibility for a member of the Valois or Capet dynasties to rule France as a result of an ahistorical event chain, or France forming from one of the French minors such as Orleans or Provence or whatever?

I just wanted to see how far off the historical track a French player can go in AGCEEP 1.41

 

[De-VILLARS]

two events for france :

#L'encyclopédie#
event = {
	id = 170021
	trigger = {
		domestic = {innovative value = 5 }
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME170021" #L'encyclopédie
	desc = "EVENTHIST170021"
	#-#
	
	date = { day = 7 month = febuary year = 1752 }

	action_a = {						
		name = "ACTIONNAME170021A"  #All the knowledges are gather together 
		command = { type = infra value = 1000 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	action_b = {					
		name = "ACTIONNAME170021B"  #Persecute these modernists
		command = { type = infra value = -1000 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
	action_c = {						
		name = "ACTIONNAME170021C"  #Reform the kingdom
		command = { type = infra value = 3000 }
		command = { type = trade value = 3000 }
		command = { type = stability value = -3 
		command = { type = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
		command = { type = SERFDOM value = -1 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -300 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 5 }
	}
}

EVENTNAME170021;L'encyclopédie;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST170021;Encyclopedias date back to 2nd-century Rome. But Ephraim Chambers's English encyclopedia broke new ground in 1728. Its title, typical of the time, sounds more like a table of contents: 'Cyclopaedia; or a Universal Dictionary of Arts and Sciences, Containing an Explication of the Terms ... in the Several Arts, both Liberal and Mechanical ... etc., etc. ... '.\n The new idea here is mechanical arts. Earlier encylopedias were never that down-to-earth. The French arranged to publish Chambers's encyclopedia in 1745.\n But, after a fight with the English translator, they decided to develop a greatly expanded French version instead. By 1747, Denis Diderot had assumed leadership of the project -- except for mathematical parts, which were handled by the mathematician d'Alembert.\n Diderot added real fire to the project. He was briefly jailed in 1749 for his liberal views, and when the first two volumes were published in 1751, he was attacked by Jesuit authorities.\n The problem was that Diderot and the other writers were rationalists. The work was now titled Encyclopedia, or a Systematic Dictionary of Science, Arts, and the Trades, and it was on its way to becoming a 28-volume treatise on human affairs.\n The Dictionnaire, as it was called, laid bare the workings of the known world in a way no one had ever tried to do. It boldly told the average man that he could know what only kings, emperors, and their lieutenants were supposed to know.\n It suggested that anyone should have access to rational truth. In that sense it was a profoundly revolutionary document.;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME170021A;All the knowledges are gather together !;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME170021B;Persecute these modernists;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME170021C;Reform the kingdom;;;;;;;;;

#Montaigne#
event = {
	id = 170022
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME170022" #Montaigne
	desc = "EVENTHIST170022"

	date = { day = 1 month = october year = 1580 }

	action_a = {				
		name = "ACTIONNAME170022A"  #Publication of his 'Essais'
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 1 }
	}
}

EVENTNAME170022;Michel Eyquem de Montaigne;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST170022;Montaigne is a great French Renaissance thinker who took himself as the great object of study in his Essays. In studying himself Montaigne is studying mankind. He attempted to weigh or 'assay' his nature, habits, his own opinions and those of others. He is searching for truth by reflecting on his readings, his travels as well as his experiences both public and private.\n The Renaissance was also a period of expanding horizons, and one in which there was a vast increase in knowledge of the world and its inhabitants. At the same time Europeans were recovering Latin culture and a much more complete grasp of Greek literature, Science was developing.\n New horizons made previous truths seem wrong or parochial. These discoveries provided Montaigne and other skeptics with a treasure chest of new facts which they used to increase our sense of relativity of all man's beliefs about himself and the world in which he lives.;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME170022A;Publication of his 'Essais';;;;;;;;;

 

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How are these, Bordic?

They're for AGCEEP_Flavor_England.

#The Great Plague#
event = {
	id = 5066
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME5066"
	desc = "EVENTHIST5066"

	date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1665 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = april year = 1665 }

	action_a ={						
		name = "ACTIONNAME5066A"
		command = { type = population which = 247 value = -8000 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 247 value = 2 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 247 value = -2 }
		command = { type = infra value = -250 }
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
	}
}

#The Great Fire of London#
event = {
	id = 5067
	trigger = { event = 5066 }
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME5067"
	desc = "EVENTHIST5067"
		
	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1666 }
	offset = 35
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = august year = 1666 }

	action_a ={						
		name = "ACTIONNAME5067A"
		command = { type = population which = 247 value = -3000 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 247 value = -2 }
		command = { type = infra value = -750 }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
	}
}

#Sir Christopher Wren & the Great Rebuilding#
event = {
	id = 5068
	trigger = { event = 5067 }
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME5068"
	desc = "EVENTHIST5068"

	date = { day = 1 month = april year = 1670 }
	offset = 120
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = august year = 1690 }

	action_a ={						
		name = "ACTIONNAME5068A"
		command = { type = population which = 247 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 247 value = -2 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 247 value = 6 }
		command = { type = infra value = 3000 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -500 }
		command = { type = stability value = 3 }
	}
}

EVENTNAME5066;The Great Plague;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST5066;The Great Plague (1665-1666) was a massive outbreak of disease in England that killed 75,000 to 100,000 people, up to a fifth of London's population. The disease is generally believed to have been bubonic plague, an infection by the bacterium Yersinia pestis, transmitted via a rat vector. Other symptom patterns of the bubonic plague, such as septicemic plague and pneumonic plague were also present. Thought to have arrived from the Netherlands on merchant vessels, records state that deaths in London crept up to 1000 persons per week, then 2000 persons per week and, by September 1665, to 7000 persons per week. By late autumn, the death toll began to slow until, in February 1666, it was considered safe enough for the King and his entourage to return to the city. By this time, however, trade with the European continent had spread this outbreak of plague to France, where it died out the following winter. Nonetheless, a fifth of the city had been killed, resulting in an unprecedented loss of infrastructure and capital.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME5066A;Shit!;;;;;;;;;;
#;
EVENTNAME5067;The Great Fire of London;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST5067;The fire of 1666 was one of the biggest calamities in the history of London, and came at the end of the Great Plague of London — an outbreak of bubonic plague that killed perhaps hundreds of thousands —the Great Fire is thought to have brought a quicker end to the plague, by killing off any disease-carrying rats and their fleas. It destroyed 13,200 houses, 87 parish churches, 6 chapels, 44 Company Halls, the Royal Exchange, the Custom House, St Paul's Cathedral, the Guildhall, the Bridewell Palace and other City prisons, the Session House, four bridges across the rivers Thames and Fleet, and three city gates, and made homeless 100,000 people, one sixth of the city's inhabitants at that time. The death toll from the fire is traditionally thought to have been 16, but a recent book theorizes that thousands may have died in the flames or from smoke inhalation. Nevertheless, the entire city had to be rebuilt under the supervision of Sir Christopher Wren in the following years, thatched roofs were banned, and millions of pounds of infrastructure had been lost.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME5067A;We must rebuild our great city...;;;;;;;;;;
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EVENTNAME5068;Sir Christopher Wren & the Great Rebuilding;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST5068;After what is commonly thought of as the single most disasterous period in the city's history, London had to be rebuilt almost from scratch after the Great Fire & Plague. During the 1670s, 80s and 90s, Sir Christopher Wren oversaw the reconstruction of England's devestated capital. 51 churches - including St Bride's, St Mary le Bow, St Clement Danes, St Benet Paul's Wharf, and St Stephen Walbrook were built to replace the 87 which had been annihilated by the fire. In addition, he was involved in the design of the Monument to the Great Fire of London, Royal Greenwich Observatory, Chelsea Hospital, Greenwich Hospital, Marlborough House, the Ashmolean Museum in Oxford, the Wren Library of Trinity College, Cambridge, and many other distinguished buildings. Wren died in 1723 and was buried at St Paul's. An inscription inside his famous cathedral, dedicated to the architect, reads, "Lector, si monumentum requiris, circumspice" ("Reader, if you seek a memorial, look around you").;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME5068A;Excellent!;;;;;;;;;;
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[De-VILLARS]

The Great Plague (1665-1666) was a massive outbreak of disease in England that killed 75,000 to 100,000

command = { type = population which = 247 value = -100000 }

i think that 100000 is too high, EU don't represent the true population of a coutry so you schould change this number --> 20 000 ?

 

[unmerged(37697)]

i think that 100000 is too high, EU don't represent the true population of a coutry so you schould change this number --> 20 000 ?

I'll knock it down to 25,000 to represent the sheer amount of corpsi

 

[De-VILLARS]

I'll knock it down to 25,000 to represent the sheer amount of corpsi

yes, it's better

#The Great Fire of London#
command = { type = population which = 247 value = -3000 }

maybe -5000 ? (i don't know the number of dead so it's just a proposition)

 

[unmerged(1385)]

For the first event you have :

#The Great Plague#

...

	date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1665 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = september year = 1666 }

As you haven't any trigger, this event should always fired between the february 1st, 1665 and april 30,1665, because of your offset, so the deathdate isn't correct.
You should change the deathdate to april 30, 1665 or change the offset. But if you change the offset, beware to the second event that could not be fired.

And as De-VILLARS said, 100000 is a very great number. IIRC, London was about 100000 at this time in AGCEEP, so if, as it said, "up to a fifth of London's population", I think a number around 20000 is more correct.

 

[unmerged(37697)]

For the first event you have :

#The Great Plague#

...

	date = { day = 1 month = february year = 1665 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = september year = 1666 }

As you haven't any trigger, this event should always fired between the february 1st, 1665 and april 30,1665, because of your offset, so the deathdate isn't correct.
You should change the deathdate to april 30, 1665 or change the offset. But if you change the offset, beware to the second event that could not be fired.

And as De-VILLARS said, 100000 is a very great number. IIRC, London was about 100000 at this time in AGCEEP, so if, as it said, "up to a fifth of London's population", I think a number around 20000 is more correct.

Changed to april 30th, 1665

Changed to 25000

 

[unmerged(40707)]

Changed to april 30th, 1665

Last day of a month is "day = 29" (range is 0-29 => there is no "day = 30 nor "day = 31" in EU2).

 

[Bordic]

Changed to april 30th, 1665

Changed to 25000

A few months ago I have posted a similar event for Venice, the plague of 1575 which struck nearly 1/3 of population, about 50,000 over 175,000 inhabitants, but for game's sake (can you say it?) as I was suggested, I coded only 5,000 dead.

I would suggest to decrease the dead to 5,000-10,000 and consequently the figures in the other two events.