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mandead said:
A minor niggle, but relevant nonetheless: could you please change all references to the Union Jack to Union Flag in text.csv, please?

A jack is a small flag flown at the bow of a ship, and generally refers to the occasions on which the Union Flag is associated with the Royal Navy.

To refer to the Union Flag as the Union Jack in general is in fact an error, and should be corrected. :)

IIRC , it was known as firstly in the early 17th century as the British Flag and is still used by that term on the continent as the British Flag. In nations which was controlled by england its naming is the Union Jack.

In Australia its term is the union Jack , because its not a "true" flag in the sense that it represents not a nation but a group of nation , it changes with time, example , the current Australian flag has the current Union jack on it , a symbol which is in error because Australia was founded by Captain Cook who had at the time a different Union flag, meaning that the Union Jack can be changed at will by the owning nation (england) at any time.

What would happen if England replaced the current union "flag"with a unicorn and lion, Australia would have to follow suit because it has not choice and also because the union jack is a jack and not a flag representing England.

Its the same as the European union banner "flag"

The stars and bars of the confederacy is the same, a banner that changes with the inclusion or exclusion of states/nations

My opinion would be to use the term BRITISH FLAG so that the not too "educated" at least know who it represents
 

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After all, only one sentence is involved...

For England:
EVENTHIST3037;In the midst of the Spanish Succession War (1700-1713), the Parliament voted the Act of Union in 1707. When confirmed by the Scottish vote, it established the Union of Scotland and England (and its Irish possessions) under the same monarch into one realm under the title of Great Britain. A new flag, the Union Jack was adopted as a symbol of the Union.;;;;;;;;;;

And twin for Scotland:
EVENTHIST276000;Now that England was diminished and brought down in the British Islands, it was time to affirm the right place of Scotland as a great nation and seal with friendship a de facto union. The Parliament, in Edinburgh, voted the Act of Union (1703). After the English confirmation, this Act established the Union between England and Scotland (and their Irish possessions) under the same monarch in a kingdom called Great Britain. A new flag, the Union Jack, was adopted as the symbol of this Union.;;;;;;;;;;


We don't use it, but there is another text:
EE_FLAG_6;Use Union Jack\n;;;;;;;;;;

All to be changed to Union Flag, right?
 
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#yoda

In post 2441 I have noticed a consistency bug: following should have almost the same DP changes as its twin event ENG_3031, so:

Code:
#(1688) The Glorious Revolution - PUR won Civil War (in case England is a French vassal)
event = {
	id = 164048
	trigger = {
		event = 3026 #ENG: The Commonwealth of England
		vassal = { country = FRA country = ENG }
		NOT = { monarch = 046034 } #Richard IV
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME3031" #The Glorious Revolution and the Bill of Rights
	desc = "EVENTHIST3031"
	#-#

	date = { day = 15 month = february year = 1688 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3031A" #William of Orange
		command = { type = flagname which = "" }
		command = { type = trigger which = 3082 } #SCO: The Glorious Revolution and the Claim of Right
		command = { type = trigger which = 276012 } #SCO: The Glorious Revolution and the Claim of Right
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 046024 } #William III
		command = { type = wakemonarch which = 046025 } #Anne
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 046016 } #James II
		command = { type = sleepmonarch which = 046017 } #James III
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -2 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -4 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = [COLOR=Yellow]-[/COLOR]2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 3 }
		command = { type = domestic which = QUALITY value = -1 }
		command = { type = breakvassal which = FRA }
		command = { type = stability value = 5 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -30 }
	}
}
Not sure why I left out centralization, as I cannot find my original suggestions, but serfdom is currently wrong...
 

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I have a problem with this event:
Code:
#(1605-1611) Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons
event = {
	id = 3115
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			owned = { province = 110 data = -1 } #Stadacone
			owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
			owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3115" #Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons
	desc = "EVENTHIST3115"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1605 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1611 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115A" #Let us befriend the Hurons
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = HUR value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = conquistador which = 110 } #Stadacone
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115B" #Let us befriend the Cherokee
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = CHE value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = conquistador which = 62 } #Carolina
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115C" #Let us befriend the Iroquois
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = OHI value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = conquistador which = 86 } #Delaware
	}
}
#-#Samuel de Champlain was sent by a man named Aymar de Clermont who had been given the privilege to establish a fur trading company by the king of France. During his travels Samuel de Champlain made friends with the Indians. He spent time with the Algonquin and Huron Indians exploring the area.

and in leaders.fra:
Code:
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 049854 }
	category = conquistador
	name = "S. de Champlain" #Samuel de Champlain
	startdate = {
		year = 1603
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 24
		month = december
		year = 1635
	}
	location = 110 #Stadacone
	rank = 12
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = no
}
There is no condition for apparition of Champlain as leader => action_a in event is not coherent. B or C give a free explorer since Champlain will already be in game...

Proposal:
Code:
#([COLOR=Red]1605[/COLOR][COLOR=Yellow]1603[/COLOR]-1611) Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons
event = {
	id = 3115
	trigger = {
		[COLOR=Yellow]OR = {
			discovered = 110 #Stadacone
			discovered = 111 #Bas St-Laurent
			discovered = 121 #Saguenay
		}[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=Yellow]NOT[/COLOR][COLOR=Red]OR[/COLOR] = {
			[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 110 data = -1 } #Stadacone[/COLOR]
			owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
			owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
		}
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3115" #Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons
	desc = "EVENTHIST3115"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = [COLOR=Red]1605[/COLOR][COLOR=Yellow]1603[/COLOR] }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1611 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115A" #Let us befriend the Hurons
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = HUR value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = conquistador which = 110 } #Stadacone[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = wakeleader which = 049854 } #S. de Champlain (FRA)
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 170252 } #FRA: Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons -II-[/COLOR]
	}
	[COLOR=Red]action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115B" #Let us befriend the Cherokee
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = CHE value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = conquistador which = 62 } #Carolina
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115C" #Let us befriend the Iroquois
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = OHI value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = conquistador which = 86 } #Delaware
	}[/COLOR]
}
#-#Samuel de Champlain was sent by a man named Aymar de Clermont who had been given the privilege to establish a fur trading company by the king of France. During his travels Samuel de Champlain made friends with the Indians. He spent time with the Algonquin and Huron Indians exploring the area.

New twin event:
Code:
#(1603-1611) Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons -II-
event = {
	id = 170252
	trigger = {
		[COLOR=Yellow]OR = {
			discovered = 110 #Stadacone
			discovered = 111 #Bas St-Laurent
			discovered = 121 #Saguenay
		}[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=Red]owned = { province = 110 data = -1 } #Stadacone
		control = { province = 110 data = -1 } #Stadacone[/COLOR]
		OR = {
			owned = { province = 62 data = -1 } #Carolina
			owned = { province = 86 data = -1 } #Delaware
		}
		NOT = { event = 3115 } #FRA: Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons -I-
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME3115" #Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons
	desc = "EVENTHIST3115"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1603 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1611 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115A" #Let us befriend the Hurons
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = HUR value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 049854 } #S. de Champlain (FRA)
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3115 } #FRA: Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons -I-
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115B" #Let us befriend the Cherokee
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = CHE value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = conquistador which = 62 } #Carolina
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3115 } #FRA: Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons -I-
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3115C" #Let us befriend the Iroquois
		command = { type = domestic which = land value = -1 }
		#command = { type = relation which = OHI value = 150 }
		command = { type = merchants value = 3 }
		command = { type = conquistador which = 86 } #Delaware
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3115 } #FRA: Samuel de Champlain and the Hurons -I-
	}
}

And change in leaders.fra:
Code:
historicalleader = {
	id = { type = 6 id = 049854 }
	category = conquistador
	name = "S. de Champlain" #Samuel de Champlain
	startdate = {
		year = 1603
	}
	deathdate = {
		day = 24
		month = december
		year = 1635
	}
	location = 110 #Stadacone
	rank = 12
	movement = 3
	fire = 4
	shock = 4
	siege = 0
	dormant = [COLOR=Yellow]yes[/COLOR]
}

EDIT: modified conditions
 
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Automatic conversion in A or C (very bad if Anglia is the target...) and extra missionaries in this event can become a real problem for England not staying Protestant even after Elizabeth I. I suggest to remove corresponding commands.
Code:
#(1554) Bloody Mary and King Felipe of England
#Edited by Johnny Canuck
event = {
	id = 3014
	trigger = { event = 3009 } #ENG: The Act of Supremacy
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME3014" #Bloody Mary and King Felipe of England
	desc = "EVENTHIST3014"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1554 }
	offset = 30
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1554 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3014A" #Reinstate Papal power over Church of England
		command = { type = religion which = catholic }
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -3 }
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = conversion which = -1 }
		command = { type = missionaries value = 3 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = dynastic which = SPA }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3014B" #Make Catholicism the most favored religion
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = -1 }
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = missionaries value = 1 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 100 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3014C" #Confirm religious freedom for all
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = heretic which = -1 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = domestic which = INNOVATIVE value = 2 }
		command = { type = missionaries value = -6 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -150 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 21030 } #The Elizabethian Religious Settlement
	}
}
#-#In 1554 the catholic Queen Mary married Felipe of Spain, a union that opened great possibilities for both England and Spain. Felipe was granted the title King of England by Parliament, but was not allowed to govern the country. But the imminent question of importance was over religion. The Act of Supremacy had given clerical control to the monarch, but the people of England were sundered over religion. Catholics demanded papal authority, while protestant wanted liberal clerical laws. Mary chose to throw in her lot with the fanatical Catholics, and a wave of terror commenced earning her the nickname 'Bloody Mary'. My Eminence! How will you act?

For the same but reversed reason (and action_c is mainly intended for a player):
Code:
#(1559-1565) The Elizabethian Religious Settlement
#Created by Johnny Canuck
event = {
	id = 21030
	trigger = {
		event = 3014 #ENG: Bloody Mary and King Felipe of England
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME21030" #The Elizabethian Religious Settlement
	desc = "EVENTHIST21030"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = july year = 1559 }
	offset = 1
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1565 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21030A" #Adopt the Act of Supremacy and the Act of Uniformity
		command = { type = religion which = protestant }
		command = { type = stability value = 4 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = SCO value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = 3 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21030B" #Radicalize the Church of England and Punish the Catholics
		command = { type = religion which = protestant }
		command = { type = stability value = 2 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = -150 }
		command = { type = relation which = SCO value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -100 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -100 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 60 value = 3 }
		command = { type = provincereligion which = -1 value = protestant }
		command = { type = domestic which = innovative value = -1 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME21030C" #Maintain the Supremacy of Rome
		command = { type = religion which = catholic }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = SCO value = 50 }
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = 50 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		command = { type = revolt which = -1 }
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = provincereligion which = -2 value = catholic } #Anglia
		command = { type = provincereligion which = -1 value = catholic }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3024 } #ENG: The Parliamentary Conflict
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3025 } #ENG: The English Civil War[/COLOR]
	}
}
#-#After the turbulance of Mary's reign, Elizabeth desired to restore stability to England and reaffirm the Protestant nature of the Church of England. At the same time, she did not want to alienate the significant number of English Catholics, and hence designed a religious settlement that appealed to both Catholic and Protestant moderates. The Elizabethian Act of Supremacy affirmed that she was the 'Supreme Governor of the Church of England', not the 'Head of the Church of England', as her father had been stylized. The Elizabethian Act of Uniformity created a single Protestant Book of Prayer, but allowed the communion to be vaguely worded, so that both Catholics and Protestants could participate. Despite the moderate tone, Parliament only passed the Act of Uniformity by a vote of 21 to 18, revealing that deep religious divides still cut through England.

And better be coherent in these events if England turns back to Protestantism even if action_c chosen in ENG_21030:
Code:
#(1634-1641) The Parliamentary Conflict
event = {
	id = 3024
	[COLOR=Yellow]trigger = {
		OR = {
			religion = protestant
			religion = reformed
		}
	}[/COLOR]
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME3024" #The Parliamentary Conflict
	desc = "EVENTHIST3024"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1634 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = july year = 1641 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3024A" #Combat the Parliament
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 2 } #from +3
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 96 value = 3 }
		command = { type = treasury value = 150 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = -2 value = 12 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 2 value = 36 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3024B" #Oppose the Parliament
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = 1 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = 1 }
		command = { type = revoltrisk which = 96 value = 1 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = -2 value = 36 }
		command = { type = DIP which = 2 value = 12 }
	}
	action_c = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3024C" #Submit to the Parliament
		command = { type = domestic which = CENTRALIZATION value = -4 }
		command = { type = domestic which = ARISTOCRACY value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = SERFDOM value = -2 }
		command = { type = treasury value = -300 }
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = ADM which = -2 value = 90 }
	}
}
#-#The 16th century saw the number of members in the House of Commons increase, while the House of Lords remained significantly smaller. The power base in Parliament shifted to the House of Commons who were well aware of the fact. Elizabeth I had a mix of determination, majestic presence and kindness towards the members of Parliament that her successors James I and his son Charles I did not. The Parliament wanted to have more said in matters about the church, justice and taxes to which the King naturally opposed. When James I tried to propose marriage of his son to Spanish, and later a French princess (both Catholic) they had enough. The Parliament of 1628 voiced the Petition of Right which forbad arrests and taxation ordered by the King. In 1629 the Parliament voted for resolutions to condemn Religious and Tax politics and the King opposed the Parliament and tried to dissolve it. Eleven years of Dictatorship ensued. In 1642 the Civil War divided the country into Cavaliers (Royalists) and Roundheads.

Code:
#(1642) The English Civil War
#Edited by Johnny Canuck
event = {
	id = 3025
	trigger = {
		event = 21030 #ENG: The Elizabethian Religious Settlement
		[COLOR=Yellow]OR = {
			religion = protestant
			religion = reformed
		}[/COLOR]
		domestic = { type = centralization value = 4 }
		domestic = { type = aristocracy value = 3 }
	}
	random = no
	country = ENG
	name = "EVENTNAME3025" #The English Civil War
	desc = "EVENTHIST3025"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1642 }
	offset = 10
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1642 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3025A" #Puritans
		command = { type = stability value = -3 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3771 } #ENG: King Charles and the New Monarchy
		command = { type = revolt which = 233 } #Meath
		command = { type = revolt which = 234 } #Leinster
		command = { type = revolt which = 250 } #Cornwall
		command = { type = revolt which = 246 } #Bristol
		command = { type = revolt which = 243 } #Wales
		command = { type = revolt which = 240 } #Northumberland
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 233 value = 5 } #Meath
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 234 value = 5 } #Leinster
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 250 value = 5 } #Cornwall
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 246 value = 5 } #Bristol
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 243 value = 5 } #Wales
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 240 value = 5 } #Northumberland
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 20000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 5000 }
		command = { type = ART which = -2 value = 5 }
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 046337 } #Prince Rupert (G) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 046341 } #Prince Rupert (A) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
		command = { type = relation which = HOL value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = SWE value = 100 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3025B" #Royalists
		command = { type = stability value = -2 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3026 } #ENG: The Commonwealth of England
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 164045 } #ENG: The Execution of King Charles
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 276007 } #SCO: The Engagement
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3079 } #SCO: The Civil War down South
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 3080 } #SCO: The Civil War down South
		command = { type = revolt which = 248 } #Kent
		command = { type = revolt which = 249 } #Wessex
		command = { type = revolt which = 245 } #Lincoln
		command = { type = revolt which = 244 } #Midlands
		command = { type = revolt which = 232 } #Ulster
		command = { type = revolt which = 242 } #Lancashire
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 248 value = 5 } #Kent
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 249 value = 5 } #Wessex
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 245 value = 5 } #Lincoln
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 244 value = 5 } #Midlands
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 232 value = 5 } #Ulster
		command = { type = province_revoltrisk which = 242 value = 5 } #Lancashire
		command = { type = INF which = -2 value = 15000 }
		command = { type = CAV which = -2 value = 15000 }
		command = { type = ART which = -2 value = 10 }
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 046337 } #Prince Rupert (G) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
		command = { type = wakeleader which = 046341 } #Prince Rupert (A) #Prince Rupert (ENG)
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 046338 } #Monck (G) #George Monck (ENG)
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 046340 } #Cromwell (ENG)
		command = { type = sleepleader which = 046343 } #Monck (A) #Monck (ENG)
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = 150 }
		command = { type = relation which = SPA value = 150 }
	}
}
#-#The English Civil War (1642-1648) was the result of a long power struggle between the Stuart monarchs and the Puritan-led Parliament. Intensification of royal judicial procedures (Star Chamber) and demands for taxes (1635, ship money for naval construction) was faced by Parliamentary opposition (summary of grievances in the 1641 Grand Remonstrance) and execution of royal advisors. The arrest of John Pym, the Puritan leader and the Catholic uprising in Ulster (1641) sparked the war between the Royalists and the Parliament. The decisive reform and new model army of Oliver Cromwell (1599-1658) led to the capture and execution of king Charles I (1649) and the establishment of the English Commonwealth, a military dictatorship controlled by a Lord Protector (Cromwell - 1653) and a reduced (Rump) Parliament. Following successful wars against Holland (1652-1654) and Spain (1654-1659), the monarchy would be re-established by General Monk in 1658, to the profit of Charles II Stuart (1660-1688), a fervent absolutist.
 
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According to setup for 1419, four provinces "should" not be under full control of Dauphin at start.

In province.csv, current values:
Maine: manpower = 5 | income = 10
Orléanais: manpower = 5 | income = 12
Auvergne: manpower = 5 | income = 4
Cévennes: manpower = 5 | income = 4

Proposed new values:
Maine: manpower = 1 | income = 4
Orléanais: manpower = 1 | income = 5
Auvergne: manpower = 1 | income = 2
Cévennes: manpower = 1 | income = 2


Events:
Code:
#(1419-1452) Maine
event = {
	id = 338432
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			AND = {
				OR = {
					owned = { province = 412 data = FRA }
					owned = { province = 412 data = DAU }
				}
				year = 1451
			}
			NOT = {
				owned = { province = 412 data = FRA }
				owned = { province = 412 data = DAU }
			}
		}
	}
	random = no
	province = 412 #Maine
	name = "EVENTNAME338432" #Full ownership of Maine
	desc = "EVENTHIST338432"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1452 }

	action_a = {
		name = "GOOD_NEWS"
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = 412 value = 4 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 412 value = 6 }
	}
}
#(1419-1500) Orléanais
event = {
	id = 338433
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			AND = {
				OR = {
					owned = { province = 411 data = FRA }
					owned = { province = 411 data = DAU }
				}
				year = 1499
			}
			NOT = {
				owned = { province = 411 data = FRA }
				owned = { province = 411 data = DAU }
			}
		}
	}
	random = no
	province = 411 #Orléanais
	name = "EVENTNAME338433" #Full ownership of Orléanais
	desc = "EVENTHIST338433"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1500 }

	action_a = {
		name = "GOOD_NEWS"
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = 411 value = 4 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 411 value = 7 }
	}
}
#(1419-1529) Auvergne
event = {
	id = 338434
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			AND = {
				OR = {
					owned = { province = 420 data = FRA }
					owned = { province = 420 data = DAU }
				}
				year = 1528
			}
			NOT = {
				owned = { province = 420 data = FRA }
				owned = { province = 420 data = DAU }
			}
		}
	}
	random = no
	province = 420 #Auvergne
	name = "EVENTNAME338434" #Full ownership of Auvergne
	desc = "EVENTHIST338434"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1529 }

	action_a = {
		name = "GOOD_NEWS"
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = 420 value = 4 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 420 value = 2 }
	}
}
#(1419-1529) Cévennes
event = {
	id = 338435
	trigger = {
		OR = {
			AND = {
				OR = {
					owned = { province = 421 data = FRA }
					owned = { province = 421 data = DAU }
				}
				year = 1528
			}
			NOT = {
				owned = { province = 421 data = FRA }
				owned = { province = 421 data = DAU }
			}
		}
	}
	random = no
	province = 421 #Cévennes
	name = "EVENTNAME338435" #Full ownership of Cévennes
	desc = "EVENTHIST338434"
	#-#

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1419 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1529 }

	action_a = {
		name = "GOOD_NEWS"
		command = { type = provincemanpower which = 421 value = 4 }
		command = { type = provincetax which = 421 value = 2 }
	}
}
EVENTNAME338432;Full ownership of Maine;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST338432;This province is now firmly in our hands.;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTNAME338433;Full ownership of Orléanais;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST338433;This province is now firmly in our hands. Historically, with the unexpected death of Charles VIII, the direct senior line of the Valois lineage came to an end. The line of succession was traced back to Charles VI's younger brother, Louis I, Duke of Orleans, and through his direct heir Charles I, father of Louis II, of Orleans. With Louis II's ascension, the House of Orleans now ruled the French Kingdom. Louis' ascension brought the great Duchy of Orleans to the Crown of France as a Royal demesne.;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTNAME338434;Full ownership of Auvergne;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST338434;This province is now firmly in our hands. Historically, Duke Charles III died heirless in 1527, and his wife Suzanne having passed away years before. Charles's vast estates were resumed to the Crown of France.;;;;;;;;;;

EVENTNAME338435;Full ownership of Cévennes;;;;;;;;;;


Maine should be seceded to Provence before 1450.
Orléanais should be "inherited" with Louis XII on the throne in 1498.
Bourbonnais (Cévennes + Auvergne) should be inherited in 1527.

I used year after historical date for France/Dauphiné because of the limitations of the script engine. Other countries get full control as soon as they own the provinces.

EDIT: modified names of events in order to avoid confusion with military control of the provinces.
 
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as per post 2467

should we not apply the same principles for french lands owned by ENG, i think that only manpower needs to be reduced for only

normandy
caux
picardie
ile de france

to have a 1 only if English held, and revert to what they are now when owned by FRA

I think calais and aquitane/gascon (424) would have supplied troops to england, based on various historical notes
 

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YodaMaster said:
And when will England not suffer penalty anymore?

1454 when the HYW ended historically
 

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YodaMaster said:
Why not English victory event then?

ok, either is fine by me.

what do others think?
 
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YodaMaster said:
After all, only one sentence is involved...

For England:
EVENTHIST3037;In the midst of the Spanish Succession War (1700-1713), the Parliament voted the Act of Union in 1707. When confirmed by the Scottish vote, it established the Union of Scotland and England (and its Irish possessions) under the same monarch into one realm under the title of Great Britain. A new flag, the Union Jack was adopted as a symbol of the Union.;;;;;;;;;;

And twin for Scotland:
EVENTHIST276000;Now that England was diminished and brought down in the British Islands, it was time to affirm the right place of Scotland as a great nation and seal with friendship a de facto union. The Parliament, in Edinburgh, voted the Act of Union (1703). After the English confirmation, this Act established the Union between England and Scotland (and their Irish possessions) under the same monarch in a kingdom called Great Britain. A new flag, the Union Jack, was adopted as the symbol of this Union.;;;;;;;;;;


We don't use it, but there is another text:
EE_FLAG_6;Use Union Jack\n;;;;;;;;;;

All to be changed to Union Flag, right?

Yes, to Union Flag.
 

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YodaMaster said:
According to setup for 1419, four provinces "should" not be under full control of Dauphin at start.

In province.csv, current values:
Maine: manpower = 5 | income = 10
Orléanais: manpower = 5 | income = 12
Auvergne: manpower = 5 | income = 4
Cévennes: manpower = 5 | income = 4

Proposed new values:
Maine: manpower = 1 | income = 4
Orléanais: manpower = 1 | income = 5
Auvergne: manpower = 1 | income = 2
Cévennes: manpower = 1 | income = 2
...

What happens when some other nation conquers such a province before?
Will the province stay poor forever?
 

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ConjurerDragon said:
What happens when some other nation conquers such a province before?
Will the province stay poor forever?
Read my note at the end of the post. :)

Provinces will recover full manpower and income as soon as an other country conquer them from Dauphiné/France whatever the date (second part of the trigger).

This is especially important for Maine, since France should secede it (Duchy of Anjou) to Provence before 1450.
 

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About proposal for Normandy, Caux, Picardie and Ile de France, just a precision: manpower increase should happen for any country (but not England if no final victory) and not only France. Dauphiné first comes to my mind.

Just waiting for a description for each province (or a general description). :)
 

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In 1520 scenario, current DP settings for France in setup file are:
Code:
policy = {
	aristocracy = 10
	centralization = 4
	innovative = 7
	mercantilism = 8
	offensive = 6
	land = 8
	quality = 6
	serfdom = 6
}
Colonization of France in this scenario is not good at all (too much innovative, mercantilism and land).

I suggest to replace all values with:
Code:
policy = {
	aristocracy = 8
	centralization = 5
	innovative = 4
	mercantilism = 7
	offensive = 6
	land = 7
	quality = 7
	serfdom = 6
}
according to average values I saw in savefiles started in 1419 and where colonization for France was wad after 1520.
 

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I tried to do it with Aegnor but it is very painful because of all the datas to compute. Don't forget random events are involved too (even if they have little impact for AI and DP related to colonization now)...

IMHO, statistics from successful games/tests started in 1419 where countries behave correctly after the date of the scenario are much easier to collect and adjust. This is not perfect but result is better. With the proposed settings, France will have 1.60 colonists per year.

Anyway, with current settings in 1520, it is obvious AI France will never colonize (0.00 colonists per year) but I don't remember if it was the result of such events changes computation before all the tweaks we made to ensure more satisfying colonization.
 

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I don't agree that the result is better. After all, each scenario is supposed to start off as the ideal progression from the 1419 scenario (why we track down tax changes). Random events are not involved in the "ideal" progression, as the ideal progression simply consists of the changes made in choice a of historically occurring events. Now it is certainly a lot of work and that's why I'm largely content to remain with what you've proposed but that's hardly better. In fact, for less event dense nations like the Safavids, I think the best way is to chart the ideal progression (/that's what I've done).