AGC/EEP: British Isles & France

[Bordic]

Yes, this is what I fixed in beta 13. Is something wrong?

AFAIK and see, nothing wrong.

 

[Toio]

Why is Alsace not in alliance with LOR at start of GC ?

Is it a game decision to save tyrol?

I ask , because the only time BUR fail is if they DOW alsace before "old" FRA falls , which leads to a DOW on them by DAU and later an ENG dow on BUR

Also alsace was annexed/inherited by BUR in 1469 any reason for its exclusion of this?

 

[ConjurerDragon]

Why is Alsace not in alliance with LOR at start of GC ?

Is it a game decision to save tyrol?

I ask , because the only time BUR fail is if they DOW alsace before "old" FRA falls , which leads to a DOW on them by DAU and later an ENG dow on BUR

Also alsace was annexed/inherited by BUR in 1469 any reason for its exclusion of this?

What exclusion? Currently Burgundy can buy the "Habsburg Vorlande" from Tyroli 1469 and gains both Alsace and Baden province (events TYR 322005 and 322006) *if* Tyrol should own both provinces. BUR event 137001 and in 1473 they get the revolt there and Switzerland gets involved.

That is as far as I know because there is no "southern Alsace"/Sundgau province in the current map and so Sundgau and Breisgau are both represented by Baden province - but that should change with the new map

However I agree with toio, that Burgundy should be able to gain a core on Alsace - currently they only gain one if they turn to Lotharingia (very unlikely).

 

[unmerged(40707)]

However I agree with toio, that Burgundy should be able to gain a core on Alsace - currently they only gain one if they turn to Lotharingia (very unlikely).

Ok for this. A proposal for handling this core?

 

[ConjurerDragon]

Ok for this. A proposal for handling this core?

An easy way without adding new events would be to gain the core with
even BUR137306 (Annexation of Luxembourg). Even the text is somehow fitting as it mentions the annexation as "another step in connecting the dutch possesions with their Burgundinan hereditary lands". For the unlikely event that this event does not fire (when Luxembourg is annexed early) the core should also be added with event BUR137017.

And to remove the core with event BUR 3597 where Burgundy cedes Alsace and Baden back to Tyrol after the death of Charles the Bold.

 

[unmerged(40707)]

An easy way without adding new events would be to gain the core with
even BUR137306 (Annexation of Luxembourg). Even the text is somehow fitting as it mentions the annexation as "another step in connecting the dutch possesions with their Burgundinan hereditary lands". For the unlikely event that this event does not fire (when Luxembourg is annexed early) the core should also be added with event BUR137017.

And to remove the core with event BUR 3597 where Burgundy cedes Alsace and Baden back to Tyrol after the death of Charles the Bold.

According to this proposal, changes in code:

#(1443) Annexation of Luxemburg
event = {
	id = 137306 #triggered by LUX_213103 A
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137306" #Annexation of Luxemburg
	desc = "EVENTHIST137306"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = inherit which = LUX }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 374 } #Alsace[/COLOR]
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	}
}

#-#Having bought the Duchy of Luxembourg from Elisabeth of Görlitz, Philipp the Good needed some time to secure his new possession. Full control of the Duchy was only achieved when they took the city of Luxemburg by a nightly ambush. With Luxemburg, another step on Burgundy's way towards their goal of connecting their hereditary lands with their Dutch possessions had been made.

#(1474-1476) Burgundy feels it safe enough to lay claim to alsace
event = {
	id = 137017 #triggered by HEL_184057 B
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137017" #Burgundy Claim Alsace
	desc = "EVENTHIST137017"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137017A" #Claim Alsace
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 374 } #Alsace[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = casusbelli which = STR value = 24 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = vp value = 1 }
	}
}

#-#Burgundy had always attempted to swap her Ducal hat for a Kings Crown but was always unsuccessful. However Charles the Bold of Burgundy had his eyes on linking his French possessions with his Dutch holdings and expanding his possessions southeastward into the Alps. It seems that the Swiss Confederation are not playing the same game as Austria or France. This could be to our advantage.

Temporary CB becomes useless in this case since CB will be permanent.

I'll add this event:

#(1469) Treaty of St. Omer (Purchase of Alsace)
event = {
	id = 137001 #triggered by TYR_322005 A
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137001" #The Treaty of St. Omer
	desc = "EVENTHIST137001"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137001A" #Buy the Habsburg Vorlande
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 374 } #Alsace[/COLOR]
		command = { type = treasury value = -130 }
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HEL value = -100 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 322006 } #TYR: Burgundy accepts
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137001B" #Refuse to help Sigismund
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -50 }
	}
}

#-#Sigismund of Tyrol ruled the Vorlande, the Habsburg possessions north of the Alps, in Alsace and Breisgau, very ineffectively. Most of the local nobility operated as robber barons, there was virtually no tax collection and the Swiss neighbours in the south occasionally sent pillaging troops in and tried to expand into these territories. One such border war with Helvetia in 1468 was concluded by Sigismund promising to pay 10000 Guldens. Since he was always in financial trouble, he soon searched for someone to grant him a credit. After the Emperor's and the French King's refusal, the only likely creditor was Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy. When on March 21st 1469 the two princes met in Arras, they negotiated an even more far-reaching agreement: Sigismund saw Burgundy as a potentially useful ally against the Helvetian threat, and in order to tie him closely to Tyrol, he offered him to mortgage the Vorlande for an amount of 50000 Guldens. To rebuy the provinces, Tyrol would have had to pay back not only this sum, but also all expenses Burgundy would make for the establishment of an administration, which seemed practically impossible for the struggling Count. Hence by the treaty of St. Omer signed in May Sigismund sold the Vorlande to Burgundy in exchange for the money he badly needed and Burgundian support against his Helvetian enemies. Only due to Charles' premature death in battle the vorlande were returned to Tyrol.


And for removal, command is already included in BUR_3597 (and alternatives) => no needed change.

EDIT: and for 1419 setup, vassalization of STR to LOR (double vassalization for STR, also vassalized to TYR. Order is TYR first in the list):

	alliance = {
		id = { type = 6000 id = 54 }
		type = vassalization
		expirydate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1460 }
		participant = { LOR STR }
	}

 

[Toio]

According to this proposal, changes in code:

#(1443) Annexation of Luxemburg
event = {
	id = 137306 #triggered by LUX_213103 A
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137306" #Annexation of Luxemburg
	desc = "EVENTHIST137306"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "OK"
		command = { type = inherit which = LUX }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 374 } #Alsace[/COLOR]
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
	}
}

#-#Having bought the Duchy of Luxembourg from Elisabeth of Görlitz, Philipp the Good needed some time to secure his new possession. Full control of the Duchy was only achieved when they took the city of Luxemburg by a nightly ambush. With Luxemburg, another step on Burgundy's way towards their goal of connecting their hereditary lands with their Dutch possessions had been made.

#(1474-1476) Burgundy feels it safe enough to lay claim to alsace
event = {
	id = 137017 #triggered by HEL_184057 B
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137017" #Burgundy Claim Alsace
	desc = "EVENTHIST137017"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137017A" #Claim Alsace
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 374 } #Alsace[/COLOR]
		[COLOR=Red]command = { type = casusbelli which = STR value = 24 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = vp value = 1 }
	}
}

#-#Burgundy had always attempted to swap her Ducal hat for a Kings Crown but was always unsuccessful. However Charles the Bold of Burgundy had his eyes on linking his French possessions with his Dutch holdings and expanding his possessions southeastward into the Alps. It seems that the Swiss Confederation are not playing the same game as Austria or France. This could be to our advantage.

Temporary CB becomes useless in this case since CB will be permanent.

I'll add this event:

#(1469) Treaty of St. Omer (Purchase of Alsace)
event = {
	id = 137001 #triggered by TYR_322005 A
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME137001" #The Treaty of St. Omer
	desc = "EVENTHIST137001"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137001A" #Buy the Habsburg Vorlande
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = addcore which = 374 } #Alsace[/COLOR]
		command = { type = treasury value = -130 }
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = 100 }
		command = { type = relation which = HEL value = -100 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 322006 } #TYR: Burgundy accepts
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME137001B" #Refuse to help Sigismund
		command = { type = relation which = TYR value = -50 }
	}
}

#-#Sigismund of Tyrol ruled the Vorlande, the Habsburg possessions north of the Alps, in Alsace and Breisgau, very ineffectively. Most of the local nobility operated as robber barons, there was virtually no tax collection and the Swiss neighbours in the south occasionally sent pillaging troops in and tried to expand into these territories. One such border war with Helvetia in 1468 was concluded by Sigismund promising to pay 10000 Guldens. Since he was always in financial trouble, he soon searched for someone to grant him a credit. After the Emperor's and the French King's refusal, the only likely creditor was Charles the Bold, Duke of Burgundy. When on March 21st 1469 the two princes met in Arras, they negotiated an even more far-reaching agreement: Sigismund saw Burgundy as a potentially useful ally against the Helvetian threat, and in order to tie him closely to Tyrol, he offered him to mortgage the Vorlande for an amount of 50000 Guldens. To rebuy the provinces, Tyrol would have had to pay back not only this sum, but also all expenses Burgundy would make for the establishment of an administration, which seemed practically impossible for the struggling Count. Hence by the treaty of St. Omer signed in May Sigismund sold the Vorlande to Burgundy in exchange for the money he badly needed and Burgundian support against his Helvetian enemies. Only due to Charles' premature death in battle the vorlande were returned to Tyrol.


And for removal, command is already included in BUR_3597 (and alternatives) => no needed change.

This seems fine, but my initial proposal was for STR to be a vassal of LOR at game start, then STR be annexed/merged by LOR around the 1440's (need to check date) and then have your events less the STR, who would not conform to BUR or tyrol, but be given to BUR via LOR while baden would by given to BUR via tyrol.

 

[unmerged(40707)]

This seems fine, but my initial proposal was for STR to be a vassal of LOR at game start, then STR be annexed/merged by LOR around the 1440's (need to check date) and then have your events less the STR, who would not conform to BUR or tyrol, but be given to BUR via LOR while baden would by given to BUR via tyrol.

Ok for the initial setup if nobody opposes.

We will then need an event for LOR-STR merge with the provided date or range (and description) and the other one for Alsace province secession by LOR.

For the LOR-STR merge , should conditions be STR still vassal of LOR? And we will have to take STR possibly played by human in account for the merge.

I will then amend the reworked sequence.

 

[Bordic]

I see that Dauphiné-France always tries to get the alliance of Aragon. I would suggest to add some bad relations towards DAU and FRA in the events of Aragon concerning the War of Succession in Naples.
I didn't test them thoroughly...

#(1420) The gift of Naples
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 111012 #triggered by NAP_239006 A
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME111012" #The gift of Naples
	desc = "EVENTHIST239006"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME111012A" #Giovanna adopted us
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = NAP value = 25 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }[/COLOR]
	}
}

#-#Giovanna of Anjou-Durazzo was not destined to be queen, and when she found herself with the crown of Naples on her head after the death of her brother, she refused to give up her previous dissolute life. She soon started to yield the power to whoever happened to be her current paramour. The nobility was restless and conspirative. Pope Martinus V, as his predecessors, wanted to see Naples in the firm hands of a trusted man, but as a previous arranged marriage to Jean of Bourbon had failed, and Giovanna was now 50 years old, he decided to invest Louis III of Anjou, Count of Provence, of the junior branch of the House of Anjou, with claims to Naples. Martinus and Louis recruited the help of Neapolitan condottiero Muzio Attendolo, also known as 'lo Sforza'. When Sforza's army invaded Naples, Giovanna turned to Alfons V of Aragon, who had also distant claims to the crown of Naples, and in exchange for his help, adopted him as heir. Alfons arrived to Naples with his forces, and made Braccio da Montone, Sforza's greatest rival, commander of the Neapolitan armies.

#(1420) Naples defies the Aragonese
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 111009 #triggered by NAP_239006 B
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME111009" #Naples defies the Aragonese
	desc = "EVENTHIST239006"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME111009A" #Giovanna adopted Louis
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRO value = -50 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = NAP value = 24 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = PRO value = 24 }
		command = { type = INF   which = 395 value = 4000 }#Messina
		command = { type = CAV   which = 395 value = 6000 }
		command = { type = leader which = 010819 } #hopefully in Messina #Montone (ARG)
	}
}

#-#Giovanna of Anjou-Durazzo was not destined to be queen, and when she found herself with the crown of Naples on her head after the death of her brother, she refused to give up her previous dissolute life. She soon started to yield the power to whoever happened to be her current paramour. The nobility was restless and conspirative. Pope Martinus V, as his predecessors, wanted to see Naples in the firm hands of a trusted man, but as a previous arranged marriage to Jean of Bourbon had failed, and Giovanna was now 50 years old, he decided to invest Louis III of Anjou, Count of Provence, of the junior branch of the House of Anjou, with claims to Naples. Martinus and Louis recruited the help of Neapolitan condottiero Muzio Attendolo, also known as 'lo Sforza'. When Sforza's army invaded Naples, Giovanna turned to Alfons V of Aragon, who had also distant claims to the crown of Naples, and in exchange for his help, adopted him as heir. Alfons arrived to Naples with his forces, and made Braccio da Montone, Sforza's greatest rival, commander of the Neapolitan armies.

#(1423) Naples adopted the Angevin Duke
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 111003 #triggered by NAP_239011 A
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME111003" #Naples adopted the Angevin Duke
	desc = "EVENTHIST239011"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME111003A" #Louis appointed Duke of Calabria
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRO value = -50 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = NAP value = -50 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = NAP value = 120 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = PRO value = 120 }
	}
}

#-#Alfons of Aragon, after being adopted by Giovanna of Anjou-Durazzo, arrived to the kingdom of Naples with the intention of being recognised as its legitimate ruler, due mainly to his descent from the last Hohenstaufen King of Sicily, and not due to the will of a member of an usurpating dynasty, the House of Anjou. He wanted to take control of Naples immediately without waiting for the Queen's death. He soon imprisoned Caracciolo, Giovanna's lover, but he failed to capture the Queen. Muzio Attendolo Sforza, the Neapolitan condottiero at the service of the Pope, informed that Giovanna was in great danger, went hastily to Naples and rescued her. It was then easy for the Pope to convince the Queen to adopt Louis III of Anjou, Count of Provence, instead of Alfons of Aragon. Taking advantage of the absence of Alfons due to his problems in Aragon, and with the military help of Visconti, Duke of Milan and Signore of Genoa, the Aragonese were expelled from Naples, and Giovanna appointed Louis as Duke of Calabria, the heir title. Louis moved his court to Cosenza to arrange his stay in Italy.

#(1423) Naples to the House of Trastamara
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 111004 #triggered by NAP_239011 B
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME111004" #Naples to the House of Trastamara
	desc = "EVENTHIST239011"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME262011A" #We are Duke of Calabria
		command = { type = stability value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRO value = -50 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = relation which = PAP value = -50 }
	}
}

#-#Alfons of Aragon, after being adopted by Giovanna of Anjou-Durazzo, arrived to the kingdom of Naples with the intention of being recognised as its legitimate ruler, due mainly to his descent from the last Hohenstaufen King of Sicily, and not due to the will of a member of an usurpating dynasty, the House of Anjou. He wanted to take control of Naples immediately without waiting for the Queen's death. He soon imprisoned Caracciolo, Giovanna's lover, but he failed to capture the Queen. Muzio Attendolo Sforza, the Neapolitan condottiero at the service of the Pope, informed that Giovanna was in great danger, went hastily to Naples and rescued her. It was then easy for the Pope to convince the Queen to adopt Louis III of Anjou, Count of Provence, instead of Alfons of Aragon. Taking advantage of the absence of Alfons due to his problems in Aragon, and with the military help of Visconti, Duke of Milan and Signore of Genoa, the Aragonese were expelled from Naples, and Giovanna appointed Louis as Duke of Calabria, the heir title. Louis moved his court to Cosenza to arrange his stay in Italy.

#(1435) The Angevins established in Naples
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 111011 #triggered by NAP_239007
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME111011" #The Angevins established in Naples
	desc = "EVENTHIST3660"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3363A" #This means war!
		command = { type = relation which = NAP value = -250 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRO value = -100 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -75 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -75 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = casusbelli which = NAP value = 85 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = PRO value = 85 }
	}
}

#-#Queen Giovanna of Naples is dead. Her last will was that the crown should be given to René of Anjou, brother of Louis III of Anjou, her adopted son who died just three months before she did. Pope Eugenius IV declared that as suzerain he had the right to invest the new king and as for now he would send a bishop as temporary regent. However the Neapolitan people, determined to respect the will of their former queen, ignored the Papal resolution and sent a delegation to Provence to urge René of Anjou to claim the throne in Naples. Since René of Anjou had been taken captive in Burgundy by Duke Philip the Fair, his wife Isabelle of Lorraine accepted the crown in his place. From his base in Sicily, Alfons of Aragon, who was designated heir by Giovanna between 1420 and 1423, and had a claim to Naples as King of Sicily, gained the support of the Neapolitan nobility hostile to the Anjou dynasty, and started making preparations to invade the Kingdom before the French Angevins could arrive in Naples and take the crown.

#(1435) The Aragonese Inheritance of Naples
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 3555
	trigger = {
		NOT = { vassal = { country = NAP country = ARG } }
		event = 3660 #NAP: The Aragonese Inheritance of Naples
	}
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME3555" #The House of Trastamara in Naples
	desc = "EVENTHIST3660"
	#-#

	date = { day = 2 month = February year = 1435 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME3555A" #Rule it as an independent Kingdom
		command = { type = vassal which = NAP }
		command = { type = relation which = TOS value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = VEN value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -25 }
		command = { type = relation which = MLO value = -25 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }[/COLOR]
	}
}

#-#Queen Giovanna of Naples is dead. Her last will was that the crown should be given to René of Anjou, brother of Louis III of Anjou, her adopted son who died just three months before she did. Pope Eugenius IV declared that as suzerain he had the right to invest the new king and as for now he would send a bishop as temporary regent. However the Neapolitan people, determined to respect the will of their former queen, ignored the Papal resolution and sent a delegation to Provence to urge René of Anjou to claim the throne in Naples. Since René of Anjou had been taken captive in Burgundy by Duke Philip the Fair, his wife Isabelle of Lorraine accepted the crown in his place. From his base in Sicily, Alfons of Aragon, who was designated heir by Giovanna between 1420 and 1423, and had a claim to Naples as King of Sicily, gained the support of the Neapolitan nobility hostile to the Anjou dynasty, and started making preparations to invade the Kingdom before the French Angevins could arrive in Naples and take the crown.

#(1442) The Aragonese chased out of Naples
#by Bordic
event = {
	id = 111015 #triggered by NAP_239009 B
	random = no
	country = ARG
	name = "EVENTNAME111015" #The Aragonese chased out of Naples
	desc = "EVENTHIST262006"
	#-#

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME111015A" #We'll never give up our rights to Naples
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = relation which = NAP value = -75 }
		command = { type = relation which = PRO value = -50 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = relation which = DAU value = -50 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -50 }[/COLOR]
		command = { type = relation which = GEN value = -25 }
		command = { type = casusbelli which = NAP value = 120 }
	}
}

#-#After his release from Milan, Alfons of Aragon returned to Naples, where his brother Pedro had conquered Gaeta. Naples was defended by Isabelle of Lorraine with the support of Pope Eugenius IV. For three years Alfons conducted as much a diplomatic war as a military one, gaining allies to his cause from the Neapolitan nobles. In 1438, René of Anjou paid a huge ransom to Burgundy for his release, and arrived in the Kingdom, but since he had exhausted his funds his allies abandoned him and he had to retreat to Naples. A long siege was then established, during which the Infante Don Pedro was killed by a chance shot to the great grief of his brother. The support of the Genoese fleet allowed René to sustain the besieged capital with success until 1 June 1442, when 300 Aragonese well-armed men entered the town through an open drain accessible during the dry season, revealed to Alfons' son Ferrante by some prisoners. After several hours of fighting and in spite of the stealthy move inside the city walls, Naples withstood the Aragonese and Alfons was forced to retreat to Sicily. After recovering the rest of the Kingdom, René entered the capital in triumph the year after. Pope Eugenius IV, very happy for the Angevin success, invested René as King of Naples and Sicily thus declaring Alfons of Aragon in unlawful possession of the Sicilian island.

 

[Toio]

Ok for the initial setup if nobody opposes.

We will then need an event for LOR-STR merge with the provided date or range (and description) and the other one for Alsace province secession by LOR.

For the LOR-STR merge , should conditions be STR still vassal of LOR? And we will have to take STR possibly played by human in account for the merge.

I will then amend the reworked sequence.

Is not alsace ....STR

The merger was in 1444 when the french demanded alsace, strasbourg and metz went under the "protection" of LOR. so I think it might be a game justication if
FRA dow LOR , then LOR annex alsace.

yes , STR should still be a vassal

 

[ConjurerDragon]

Is not alsace ....STR

The merger was in 1444 when the french demanded alsace, strasbourg and metz went under the "protection" of LOR. so I think it might be a game justication if
FRA dow LOR , then LOR annex alsace.

yes , STR should still be a vassal

I´m a bit confused now.
As far as I see the french Ai files don´t have LOR in it´s combat list and they have no core in that time - they gain the core on Lorraine and Alsace only with the "chambers of reunion" after 1600. And AI France/DAU should be preoccupied with fighting the english or the Burgundians in the time around 1444.

The english WIKI about Alsace briefly mentions a french army in 1444 after the conclusion of the HYW. So if Strassbourg/STR becomes a part of Lorraine/LOR because of french aggression, it should only be if France has won the HYW before and DAU no longer exists because else France would have other priorities.

 

[Toio]

I´m a bit confused now.
As far as I see the french Ai files don´t have LOR in it´s combat list and they have no core in that time - they gain the core on Lorraine and Alsace only with the "chambers of reunion" after 1600. And AI France/DAU should be preoccupied with fighting the english or the Burgundians in the time around 1444.

The english WIKI about Alsace briefly mentions a french army in 1444 after the conclusion of the HYW. So if Strassbourg/STR becomes a part of Lorraine/LOR because of french aggression, it should only be if France has won the HYW before and DAU no longer exists because else France would have other priorities.

game -- I have always had FRA dow LOR before the end of HYW (1453)

As I suggested, annexaation of LOR on STR should take place if FRA dows either STR or LOR,

IF STR still exists at the treaty of omer, then STR should be excluded and only baden given up to BUR. but this never happens in the game because BUR dow STR always anywhere from 1419 to 1500.

 

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Or BUR dowing LOR, both happens.

I agreed on STR vassalization to LOR but why the merge if only FRA dows LOR or STR? Only to see LOR surviving the onslaught, but, in this case, France will gain Alsace at 100%. Is it better?

What will happen with St. Omer? Only Baden seceded by Tyrol? Does it means no BUR core on Alsace in BUR_137001? Btw, no BUR core on Baden in same BUR_137001 event?

 

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Reworked sequence about roussilon by hildoceras

event = {
	id = 338413
	trigger = {
		OR = {
[COLOR=Yellow]			AND = {
				owned = { province = 426 data = CAS } # Roussillon
				control = { province = 426 data = CAS }
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 426 data = ARG } 
				control = { province = 426 data = ARG } 
			}
			AND = {
				owned = { province = 426 data = SPA } 
				control = { province = 426 data = SPA } 
			}	[/COLOR]
		}
		atwar = no
	}
	random = no
	province = 426 #Roussillon
	name = "EVENTNAME338413" 
	desc = "EVENTHIST338413"

	date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1497 }
	offset = 90
	deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1505 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME338413A"
		command = { type = fortress which = 426 value = 1 } # Roussillon 
		command = { type = treasury which = -150 }
		command = { type = vp value = 5 }
  	}
  	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME338413B"
		command = { type = vp value = -10 }
	}
}

EVENTNAME338413;Francisco Ramiro Lopez' fortifications;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST338413;Francisco Ramiro Lopez was more an artilleryman than an architect. He has been noticed by the king Ferdinand of Aragon during the Reconquista, by his use of powder during sieges, as much for blowing mines as for cannons. In 1496, soon after the French loot of the village of Salses at the border of Roussillon and its old Middle Age castle, Ferdinand ordered him to build a modern fortress. He built it from 1497 to 1503 using innovative principles, inspired from Italy, in order to protect the fortress from the artillery and to optimize the fire of the cannons from the castle. This fort was considered as impregnable with his 15m thick walls at the base. It was supposed to have a 3,000 men garrison (that it never had) and till our days it surprises us by its size, its short shape, its surrounding ditches, half-moons and counterscarps. \n \nIn 1503, Francisco Ramiro also participated to the construction of the military port of Collioure, at the Pyrenees feet, inspiring himself from his work in Salses. The castle of Salses, taken by the French in 1639, taken back in 1640 and once again conquered in 1642 would be later hardly improved by Sébastien Vauban's works. The fort lost of its importance after 1659 when the border went to the Pyrenean range. \n \nIf Francisco Ramiro Lopez' work has been an important step in military architecture, he never had the intuition of the earth ramparts. On the contrary, he preferred the systematic use of stones and mortar and it is in Italy, at Civita Vecchia in 1508, that the first earth bastion was built. So, later, it would be mainly Italians architects that Carlos V would use to build his fortresses.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME338413A;Let us reinforce Roussillon;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME338413B;Too expensive !;;;;;;;;;;

event = {
	id = 170229
	trigger = { 
              owned = { province = 426 data = -1 } # Roussillon
             [COLOR=Yellow] control = { province = 426 data = -1 }  [/COLOR]           
              atwar = no 
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME170229" 
	desc = "EVENTHIST170229"

	date = { day = 0 month = january year = 1550 }
	offset = 100
	[COLOR=Yellow]deathdate = { day = 29 month = december year = 1666 }[/COLOR]

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME170229A"
		command = { type = fortress which = 426 value = -1 } # Roussillon 
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = sleepevent which = 5004 } #FRA: Vauban[/COLOR]
  	}
}

EVENTNAME170229;Defensive weakness in Roussillon;;;;;;;;;;
EVENTHIST170229;The acquisition of Roussillon by France sent the border with Spain back to the Pyrenean range. The fortifications built centuries ago to protect from enemies coming from the north were useless from southern enemies. Moreover, the evolution of siege artillery made the Middle Age castles obsolete. One would have to wait for Sebastien Vauban to see in Roussillon a modern fortification belt on the Pyrenees mountains.;;;;;;;;;;
ACTIONNAME170229A;Roussillon is badly defended;;;;;;;;;;

#(1667-1700) "Vauban" Sequence
#reworked by De-VILLARS
event = {
	id = [COLOR=Yellow]170228[/COLOR]
	trigger = {
		[COLOR=Yellow]event =  338414 #Defensive weakness in Roussillon[/COLOR]
		owned = { province = 383 data = -1 } #Picardie
		[COLOR=Yellow]control = { province = 383 data = -1 }[/COLOR]
		owned = { province = 376 data = -1 } #Champagne
		[COLOR=Yellow]control = { province = 376 data = -1 }[/COLOR]
	}
	random = no
	country = FRA
	name = "EVENTNAME5004" #Vauban
	desc = "EVENTHIST5004"
	#-#Sébastien Le Prestre de Vauban was a French military engineer who revolutionized the art of siege craft and defensive fortifications. He fought in all of France's wars of Louix XIV's reign (1643-1715) and went on frequent tours around the frontiers redesigning and improving numerous fortifications. His design for the fortification of Landau in Bavaria is sometimes reckoned as his greatest work.

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1667 }
	offset = 20
	deathdate = { day = 1 month = january year = 1670 }

	action_a = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME5004A" #Appoint him
		command = { type = land value = 250 }
		command = { type = domestic which = OFFENSIVE value = -1 }
		[COLOR=Yellow]command = { type = fortress which = 426 value = 2 } #Roussillon[/COLOR]
		command = { type = fortress which = 383 value = 1 } #Picardie
		command = { type = fortress which = 376 value = 1 } #Champagne
		command = { type = treasury value = -400 }
	}
	action_b = {
		name = "ACTIONNAME5004B" #Our strategy is offensive
		command = { type = land value = 750 }
		command = { type = domestic which = OFFENSIVE value = 1 }
		command = { type = ART which = -1 value = 30 }
		command = { type = stability value = -1 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 170079 } #FRA: Vauban
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 170080 } #FRA: Vauban
	}
}

 

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I forgot to say... Roussillon should be owned and controlled in 338413 and 170229. Since we're at it, it should be the case for Picardie and Champagne in Vauban sequence too.

 

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I forgot to say... Roussillon should be owned and controlled in 338413 and 170229. Since we're at it, it should be the case for Picardie and Champagne in Vauban sequence too.

yes !!

 

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For consistency between Deluxe (EGUFSM) and Base, new CoA for Wales as option in Base (and Deluxe reworked to match exctly):

Flag for Base will be the quartered one provided in EGUFSM.

 

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For consistency between Deluxe (EGUFSM) and Base, new CoA for Wales as option in Base (and Deluxe reworked to match exctly):

Flag for Base will be the quartered one provided in EGUFSM.

Hmm...could someone create a hybrid WLS/ENG CoA and flag for WLS_330000 (Crown of England)?

I don't think an England formed from Wales would keep on claiming the throne of France.

 

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Can you provide an image?

 

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Can you provide an image?

There's a crude one I posted a while back on this topic.

I think the file's gone though. Lemme look.

Edit- Yup, it's gone. It's backed up on my computer which is currently in for repairs, I'll try to get it soon.