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IMO incest should be enabled for everyone in vanilla CK2 and all its major mods simply because it wasn't all THAT crazy of an occurrence historically (aside from parent-child which isn't even allowed in CK2... sadly). practically every major royal family in europe hovered on the edges of incest for centuries (see: Habsburg Lip) and the scope of what defined incest actually varies greatly depending on religion and culture- first cousin, second cousin, etc. even some islamic countries today consider a sexual relationship between stepsiblings to be incest.

just grant a permanant or temporary opinion malus like with ala incestuous adulterer, and exemptions for religions with xwedodah.
 

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IMO incest should be enabled for everyone in vanilla CK2 and all its major mods simply because it wasn't all THAT crazy of an occurrence historically (aside from parent-child which isn't even allowed in CK2... sadly). practically every major royal family in europe hovered on the edges of incest for centuries (see: Habsburg Lip) and the scope of what defined incest actually varies greatly depending on religion and culture- first cousin, second cousin, etc. even some islamic countries today consider a sexual relationship between stepsiblings to be incest.

just grant a permanant or temporary opinion malus like with ala incestuous adulterer, and exemptions for religions with xwedodah.
Incest itself IS enabled, just not incestuous marriage (divine blood), which is what everyone else is talking about.
 

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Since there have been some historical characters added to the history files, can the Empire of Lone Star or Texan Empire have its history files filled with the presidents of the Republic of Texas? It won't do too much for gameplay but it'll be nice to see Sam Houston and such.
 

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I like how there's a Braganza ruler of Brazil claiming descent from the old Brazilian Emperors. Are the Iturbides of Mexico claiming descent from Augustine de Iturbide in a similar fashion?

While not directly connected to the historical rulers, the family name and crest is still the same, so yes, these characters do claim descent from those rulers. There are some others that don't have unique CoAs but still have the same last names as the historical rulers, like the Duvalier and Louverture families of Haiti.
 

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While not directly connected to the historical rulers, the family name and crest is still the same, so yes, these characters do claim descent from those rulers. There are some others that don't have unique CoAs but still have the same last names as the historical rulers, like the Duvalier and Louverture families of Haiti.

I know this won't be implemented, because it's too silly, but I'd love to see an invasion of vengeful Habsburgs seeking to assert their dubious claims on the Empire of Mexico...
 

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Since there have been some historical characters added to the history files, can the Empire of Lone Star or Texan Empire have its history files filled with the presidents of the Republic of Texas? It won't do too much for gameplay but it'll be nice to see Sam Houston and such.

Someone suggested that on the subreddit when I suggested adding the San Jacinto monument and Sam Houston statue outside Huntsville as landmarks.
 

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I know this won't be implemented, because it's too silly, but I'd love to see an invasion of vengeful Habsburgs seeking to assert their dubious claims on the Empire of Mexico...

Mainline Hapsburgs had long died out when Mexico formed.
 

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I know this won't be implemented, because it's too silly, but I'd love to see an invasion of vengeful Habsburgs seeking to assert their dubious claims on the Empire of Mexico...

One way to do that is to add a Catholic Deitsch character of the Hapsburg dynasty, with a claim on the Empire of Mexico or Kingdom of Mexico. Maybe make him landless in someone's court?
 

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One way to do that is to add a Catholic Deitsch character of the Hapsburg dynasty, with a claim on the Empire of Mexico or Kingdom of Mexico. Maybe make him landless in someone's court?
That could be a fun Easter egg, as well as a good challenge for anyone wanting to take it. I think he should have the Lunatic or Possessed trait though, in order to show that nobody takes his claim seriously.

As for the whole thing with incest, I personally have always thought that Revelationist and Charismatic characters should have the divine blood mechanics; I know it's not a popular view, but it would make good use of a mechanic in the base game, and I highly doubt anyone who plays the mod would get offended by it (I mean, I'm from Kentucky and I'm not offended by that). I personally think it was also a bit too far to take polygamy away from Mormonism, as it's very probable that the religion would end up embracing it again following the fall of centralized authority.

Of course, I'm not too zealous about either being added (or readded) to the mod, as I'm able to use what little modding abilities I have to mod those mechanics in for those religions in my personal games of After the End, and I understand if some players don't want to play with those mechanics.
 

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That could be a fun Easter egg, as well as a good challenge for anyone wanting to take it. I think he should have the Lunatic or Possessed trait though, in order to show that nobody takes his claim seriously.

As for the whole thing with incest, I personally have always thought that Revelationist and Charismatic characters should have the divine blood mechanics; I know it's not a popular view, but it would make good use of a mechanic in the base game, and I highly doubt anyone who plays the mod would get offended by it (I mean, I'm from Kentucky and I'm not offended by that). I personally think it was also a bit too far to take polygamy away from Mormonism, as it's very probable that the religion would end up embracing it again following the fall of centralized authority.

Of course, I'm not too zealous about either being added (or readded) to the mod, as I'm able to use what little modding abilities I have to mod those mechanics in for those religions in my personal games of After the End, and I understand if some players don't want to play with those mechanics.
The thing is, Mormonism didn't lose centralized authority, the Quorum is the Same organization as the antediluvian church. At this point mainstream Mormonism has not had polygamy longer than it ever did
 

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The thing is, Mormonism didn't lose centralized authority, the Quorum is the Same organization as the antediluvian church. At this point mainstream Mormonism has not had polygamy longer than it ever did
I was referring to the secular authority of the United States, not the Mormon Quorum itself.
 

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The thing is, Mormonism didn't lose centralized authority, the Quorum is the Same organization as the antediluvian church. At this point mainstream Mormonism has not had polygamy longer than it ever did
I mean from what I read I highly doubt Mormonism, in this setting, wouldn't be polygamist, and i never understood why it got shoved onto a heresy instead, that you wouldn't really see.
 

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That could be a fun Easter egg, as well as a good challenge for anyone wanting to take it. I think he should have the Lunatic or Possessed trait though, in order to show that nobody takes his claim seriously.

Put the Habsburg character in the court of a nearby Catholic realm, like Comancheria. He'll have decent stats, along with the lunatic trait. Plus a strong claim on the Empire of Mexico and Kingdom of Mexico. To make him playable, grant him land within Comancheria or press his claim. I don't think it will be too difficult to implement right?
 

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I mean from what I read I highly doubt Mormonism, in this setting, wouldn't be polygamist, and i never understood why it got shoved onto a heresy instead, that you wouldn't really see.
Regardless of the reasons why it could be theologically justified (Which it wouldn't anyway) The main reason we removed polygamy was because there are too few marriageable Mormons to make it mechanically feasible.
 

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Pretty sure this is a bug but i have to wonder how cold it is in the Kingdom of -
 

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Regardless of the reasons why it could be theologically justified (Which it wouldn't anyway) The main reason we removed polygamy was because there are too few marriageable Mormons to make it mechanically feasible.
Then why have it on a heresy, instead of removing it entirely? I respect and understand the decision, I just want to know why it was put onto a heresy that has a iffy time of even showing up.