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For the leadership, I would say hierocratic or autocephalous. It would represent that keeping the gods away from our world is a task so important that feudal duties shouldn't interfere with this holy task. For the Nature, I like unyielding. It show that Occultists faith is not much about worshiping gods, but more about being The shields that guards the realm of men from these almighty beings. Then for the second doctrine (after their specific one), Bloodthirsty gods sounds like the best choice especially with the description: "
Our heavenly masters are cruel and ever thirsty. If we do not placate their hunger for flesh, blood, and souls they will turn their wrath upon us."

Thank you! I did just that! It's mostly been Old Occultists that I've sent to the Elder Gods, but I've managed to sneak in a few Anabaptists and Americanists. I'm also pleased to see that the seat of the Supreme Orient is Harvard!
 

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Thank you! I did just that! It's mostly been Old Occultists that I've sent to the Elder Gods, but I've managed to sneak in a few Anabaptists and Americanists. I'm also pleased to see that the seat of the Supreme Orient is Harvard!

Glad that I could help ! Those pesky cross and flag lovers should be thankful that their life serves a greater purpose !
 

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I have a couple things to report. First, feudalized unreformed pagans have full access to succession laws. Is this WAD?

Second, it seems the druids cannot appoint Chancellors. When I click the appoint button it shows no one even if I have plenty of candidates,
 

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I have a couple things to report. First, feudalized unreformed pagans have full access to succession laws. Is this WAD?

Second, it seems the druids cannot appoint Chancellors. When I click the appoint button it shows no one even if I have plenty of candidates,
You have to have a druid as your chancellor. Summon one via decision.
There really should be a tool tip somewhere about this. I've seen this complaint many times here and on the Reddit, and it's not exactly easy to figure out on one's own.
 

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...Why? Wouldn't that make more sense for a court chaplain? Especially given how important Chancellors are.

EDIT: I tried removing the one druid I had from her position to slot her in as chancellor, didn't work. And there is no decision to summon a druid.
 
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...Why? Wouldn't that make more sense for a court chaplain? Especially given how important Chancellors are.

EDIT: I tried removing the one druid I had from her position to slot her in as chancellor, didn't work. And there is no decision to summon a druid.
Because they specialize in different teachings. While some are servants of the gods, others are masters of law.

There is a decision titled "Invite Druid to court". It won't fire immediately, but after a day or two it will ask you to choose whether you want a master of law or a servant of the gods. When he appears, you will have the choice to make him your Foreign Minister or Court Druid (or neither).

Not sure why it wouldn't work. She definitely had the "Druid" trait?
 

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That office is too important to be left in the hands of holders of religious holdings, especially as tribal leaders have so few. And that decision is not showing up. And yes she had the trait.
 

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That office is too important to be left in the hands of holders of religious holdings, especially as tribal leaders have so few. And that decision is not showing up. And yes she had the trait.
It's not a purely religious title. Like I said, they can be both masters of religion and masters of law. As for why the decision doesn't show up, it might be because the minor "Court Druid" title is assigned. Seems like that will prevent the decision from showing. Try revoking that minor title and checking the decisions again.
As for the existing druid, it's probably because she's female. You can't have female chancellors until the Status of Women law changes to Significant.
 

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Then why the devil can some joe-schmo without the trait be court chaplain? It would make far more sense to restrict it that way. And how on earth is it this obvious problem not fixed already. How many realms even have Status of Women set as Significant or higher. And suppose you're like me and don't like Conclave and refuse to play with it? Good grief, I'm amazed this issue hasn't been brought up before now.

EDIT: I was able to finally fill the slot. Still doesn't change my opinion this is a rubbish rule especially as I'm quite sure Druidic cultures didn't lock in who the right-hand man was to just druids. They could be of course and the druids always had great respect but this is just silly.
 
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Started playing with the new patch as the Queen of Venezuela, just to play around with pagan stuff. Noticed a few things-

The Rio Orinoco doesn't seem to work properly, or the navigation is weird. You can't navigate most of it, and when you park a boat in the nearest inland province (Maturin), it teleports miles away before docking. It's kind of strange.

The are no societies other than the Ivy League for Tres Potencias followers, it's a little sad. There's not even a devil society.
For the native devil society I would have recommended Santeria or some other sort of black magic, but that's already a religion. You could rename Santeria to something less negative, like Mesa Blanca or something, but I don't know much about this, just spent a couple minutes googling. I'm sure there are other potential names for afro-syncretic devil socieities.
Others societies could be fun too. Like maybe, an old women's circle sort of society? It could be the equivalent of a monastic order.

I'm not sure if this is a bug or not (this is my first time reforming a pagan religion since the new Holy Fury mechanics came in), but when I set up a Hierocratic leadership, it was always given to this random guy who owned a church under one of my vassal's vassals. It's kind of weird, and didn't make much sense why it would go to him rather than the vassal bishoprics I had set up, especcialy since I'd reformed to an enatic religion. This might be a problem with the base game though, i dunno.

There also doesn't seem to be a Great Temple equivalent for Tres Potencias followers, but perhaps that's true for everyone. I don't spend a lot of time doing great works. It'd be nice to have one anyway.


I like the new changes with the off-map invaders, they seem to be slightly more stable now. In my current game the Redcoats have taken an incredible amount of land, and the Russians haven't completely collapsed.
 
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Rust Cultist Salvage Expeditions are broken. After you pick the county to go to and who to go to it with, the next event in the chain never fires, and you're stuck On Pilgrimage forever. This was observed happening to both an AI ruler and the player character.
 

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The unit sprite for the Mormons seems glitched. A medieval visor is atop the Anglo-Saxon helmet and the shield is reversed so it's glitching into the soldier's arm.
 

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I noticed some weird behavior with the Consumerists - if the Prophet ends up abdicating, the Death of the Prophet event fires when the new holder of the National Mall dies instead of the Prophet. Also, Monetarist is appearing before the Prophet dies, though I'm assuming that's because it's marked as a Consumerist heresy in the religion file at game start. Probably fixable by removing that tag in the religion file, setting Monetarist to not be available in the Ruler Designer, and then using set_parent_religion = consumerist on Monetarist when the relevant even fires.
 

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Sad i missed this mod for so long. It is awesome! I have learned more about culture and traditions of North America fom this mod than in my whole life. :D
I would love to see some more flavour for the Gaians. Not only is the whole matrilinear clicking annoying (it should really be default) but you only sit there and accumulate Piety without any use. :oops:

If apprechiated, i have some suggestion for more religious flavour:
- make a pacifist focus, that not only discourages war but also murder plots
- something that evolved from the environmentalist tradition of chaining oneself to a tree.
- make the capricorn, aries and other star stuff more likely for the AI to pick. The player seems to be the only one doing that descision. o_O
- maybe a Holist and an Emergence Heresy
(default Gaian would focus more on living things while Holist would go more into esoterical. Emergence would value complexety and would get piety bonus from gavelkind, the number of characters at court, number of vassals)
- do something with LBTQ. pre modern India had a third gender, so post apocalyptic Portland can have a community too.

;)
Really love the project.
 

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- do something with LBTQ. pre modern India had a third gender, so post apocalyptic Portland can have a community too.
While i think that would be cool, i'm p sure that CK2 is just too heteronormative for there to be any proper LGBTQ rep. I hope that if they make ck3 that they can make the system more flexible, i.e. being able to mod in gay marriage.
 

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While i think that would be cool, i'm p sure that CK2 is just too heteronormative for there to be any proper LGBTQ rep. I hope that if they make ck3 that they can make the system more flexible, i.e. being able to mod in gay marriage.

In Elder Kings they have a "bisexual" trait in addition to the classic "homosexual" trait, it's a little things but it's always a nice addition for representation. But yeah the mechanics of CK2 are very limited on these subject, which can be explained by the original western medieval settings but there is still room for improvement.