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Purely out of curiosity, were there ever other start dates? I ask because I've heard mention of things that sounded like start dates.
There never were. There was a spinoff mod for EU4 which is still more or less a thing but it's slow to update and I don't know the current status. What are you talking about that sounded like start dates?
It's a vague memory I have of something worded similarly to vanilla bookmarks like "The Alexid" and "Jerusalem is at its Height"; that's all.
The only thing I can think of is a sub-mod which attempted to provide a new start date, I can't recall it ever being finished or working though. On a similar note there is the ambitious During the End sub-mod on the workshop, which looks like it just got updated a few days ago!
I've mentioned before making Martha's Vineyard and Nantucket islands their own provinces, I think they would be among some of the most prime candidates.
I've seen one blessed, once, during my Falling Star playthrough. Thats about it though.
It happens with certain cultures that don't have a submod yet. (Incidentally, this is why we need to make so many submods for all the portrait packs.) We simply haven't gotten around to making the corresponding Celtic Faces, Norse Faces, etc submods yet.
But like why though? Is it referencing the wrong head gear? Almost all counts with the Iberian portraits wear a helmet. If it's something about it being the "default" headgear, couldn't that be changed?
So, i got bored and made a small mod, that gives the Rastafari some flavor. It basically adds just:
- Polygamy for Rastafari men (up to 4 wives)
- Rastafari Woman can no longer hold Tempels.
- The Description for the Bustamente Bloodline got a tiny addition.
- Polygamy for Rastafari men (up to 4 wives)
- Rastafari Woman can no longer hold Tempels.
- The Description for the Bustamente Bloodline got a tiny addition.
Please add the portrait submod post links to the main post. The Steam workshop versions are not working.
Hol' up.
The HCC has the option to 'mend the schism' Justifying that because the St. Louis Patriarch went Popey, they can reunite Christianity under the umbrella of Evangelicalism. But since the American Papacy existed before St. Louis' Bishop went Popey, as can be proven in the title holders box, how can that be justified? Why would any of the Catholics accept that when from their mind the St.Louis Bishop converted amicably and was then elected Pope?
I get its a hangover mechanic from what the Byzantine empire had in the base game, but the logic doesnt make sense vis a vis Protestantism and Catholicism as it could be made from Orthodoxy and Catholicism (and even in the base game it was seen as odd a Catholic emperor couldnt do the same in reverse)
The HCC has the option to 'mend the schism' Justifying that because the St. Louis Patriarch went Popey, they can reunite Christianity under the umbrella of Evangelicalism. But since the American Papacy existed before St. Louis' Bishop went Popey, as can be proven in the title holders box, how can that be justified? Why would any of the Catholics accept that when from their mind the St.Louis Bishop converted amicably and was then elected Pope?
I get its a hangover mechanic from what the Byzantine empire had in the base game, but the logic doesnt make sense vis a vis Protestantism and Catholicism as it could be made from Orthodoxy and Catholicism (and even in the base game it was seen as odd a Catholic emperor couldnt do the same in reverse)
I agree. I still think that the "Mend the Schism" option should be avaliable to both the Ursulines and the Catholics to mend their schism.
The evangelicals should have their "Mend the Schism" option be in relation to the Anglicans.
The schism is mended largely on cultural relationships and on the basis of past interfaith structural relationships. The evangelicals are already a relationship of slightly disparate faiths in one framework, so incorporating the Catholic church into the existing relationship makes more sense. This is similar to how, despite Paradox's choices, the Catholic church didn't join together with the Orthodox, but the various eastern churches are now in full communion with Rome.
Aye and I heard a similar justification for the equally silly union of the Ursaline and the Anglicans. That makes absolutely no sense centuries after the apocalypse with massive cultural drift between vast areas of territory and centuries of religious tension between these faiths. There IS no cultural relationship that can underpin a schism mending, far less than there was between the Slavic/Byzantine East with the Latin West than there was historically vis a vis Orthodoxy and Catholicism. The Quebecois and the Maritimers don't see eachother as 'fellow canadians', they barely see eachother as brothers today in OTL and that concept died in nuclear fire centuries ago by the mod's start, and the same can be said about the concept of 'American', outside of perhaps, the Americanists who very likely still hold to the concept of Proposition Nationhood as an article of faith. Its very clear Religion matters a great deal to everyone in the mod, about as much as if not moreso than it did to the Europeans historically, so the idea that ancient cultural underpinnings, and historical economic relationships supercedes that fact in an era of Great Holy Wars and Crusades is... A little baffling honestly.
I am not against a potential mending of the schism between these faiths, I just argue it needs to be better justified in the lore. Perhaps the Confederacy seeks to Mend the Schism and the lore blurb could be about 'Bringing the Pope into the Fold', which while sinister sounding, would be very much exactly what was happening anyway. As the Catholics would in no other way consider the legitimacy of a Protestant emperor just declaring Evangelical supremacy when for the past thousand years, they have viewed the protestants as objectively heretical and wrong, worse than schismatics even if the long centuries had made them accept the Evangelicals as a simple reality, just as it did with the Cult of Saints religions in the south, which are so different they're not even considered Christian. It would be a forceful union, just as it would realistically be. A catholic enforced union would be just as forceful, even if they couched it in terms such as making an 'Evangelical Rite' or 'Use' like how Pope Benedict XVI made a sort of leeway to allow converts from the Anglicans and Episcopalians in OTL while keeping a lot of their cultural heritage and the more acceptable liturgical traditions to ease the process as they enforce doctrinal, sacramental and dogmatic changes. And the Ursalines and the Anglican unification under the Confederated Faith could be justified, either as a brokered compromise that would lower the legitimacy of the confederated faith when it starts out (thus making the union a gamble for any ruler) or a forceful, top-down decree by whatever king or emperor up north enforces it.
I'd still also want a schism mending between Catholics-Ursalines and Anglicans-Evangelicals, but it seems no one's thinking about adding that as of yet.
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Speaking of the Evangelical Church, what happened to the Presiding Bishop in Chapel Hill? I started a new game as Octavian Venable and he's now just a Canon once more.
If I wanted to find more symbols for Americanist/Consumerist coats of arms, where would I look?
