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I guess instead of taking up more time by waiting for an answer to that, I'll just go ahead and report the bug, seeing as how I'm already here.

So there I was playing as a descendant of the illustrious House Wayne. I had given up my Jeffersonian heresy long ago when I saw that they had no religious head. I decide to declare war on South Jersey, when all of a sudden the President dies and I'm a candidate. I felt a thrill go through me as I vied for control, slandering all who stood in my path. Finally, after weeks of campaigning, the polls are on my side. I have finally realized the American Dream. But then, it all comes crashing down. *doo-do-do-doo-doo-doo* I hear the familiar sound of pizzicato violin (or maybe it's a lute) and see the familiar "So be it" of a new patrician resigned to be subordinate to his bitter rivals. As soon as I close the screen, however, I find the Presidential election screen behind it. On the same day that I died in glorious battle against the hated Jerseyites, I had been elected as the President of the United states. Unfortunately however, since the death occurred before I technically held office, it didn't fire the event to elect a new President. It's been about a hundred years and I still don't have a President. My first idea to fix this would be to stick in a new event which fires if the President title has been un-held for a couple years or so, but you might be able to come up with a more graceful solution.
 
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Your proposal has been noted. When the mod is in a place where thinking about game balance makes sense, it will be considered further. If you want to help to get it to that place pm me.

Perhaps you could have London and only London ruled by a kind of "Royal State" that has the rest of Britain as pseudo-vassals (in-between vanilla Japan and Papal States).

My first idea to fix this would be to stick in a new event which fires if the President title has been un-held for a couple years or so, but you might be able to come up with a more graceful solution.

Maybe if the President isn't properly inaugurated, his main heir could take over, accompanied by some event ("A Vice President Steps Forward" or some such)
 
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Maybe if the President isn't properly inaugurated, his main heir could take over, accompanied by some event ("A Vice President Steps Forward" or some such)

I like the idea of a VP, but I don't think that's necessarily the solution to the problem. Now that I'm thinking about it, my character actually died a day or two before the election was over. I think all we really need is for the game to check and make sure that the person it's trying to give the title to is still alive. If they aren't, it could just say "Due to the untimely death of Character X, second place candidate Character Y will be taking the Presidency." Failing all else, I would think it would still be a good idea for the game to check every couple of years or so and make sure that all the important titles didn't get inadvertently destroyed by some unforeseen happenings.
 
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On the workshop a mod based on this, called During the End appeared. It apparently is supposed to be a backstory/very early start date mod with new relms, relgions and cultures. It dosent work however given that the author wants it and AtE to be run at the same time, but Ate overrules it

Dose the author of that mod even have permission to use AtE files?
 

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Are they actually using AtE files though? After all it does have a dependency on the base mod so their intention could just be to override certain files with their own.

it overwrites some and adds others (ie the chracter folder has both a AtE file and a new file), it is also missing other files that make it dependent on AtE. The author says you need to have AtE for it to run, but the way the mods load leads to AtE being unchanged.
 

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It sounds like the dude just threw it up on the workshop without bothering to check if it works. One of us should try to get in touch with the author of that mod and help them out.
 
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I like the idea of a VP, but I don't think that's necessarily the solution to the problem.

Maybe another way to include a VP would be something to do with regency. If the President goes under a regency for whatever reason, their regent becomes the Vice President. The VP taking over to complete the President's term when they die doesn't make sense in the context of Americanism, since Presidents are elected for life and a new one is only and always elected when they die, but having a VP in the first place would certainly be a nice addition.
 
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here's the code for the mod file:
name="During the End 0.1"
archive="mod/duringtheend.zip"
dependencies=
{
After the End 0.8 }
replace_path="gfx/loadingscreens"
picture="dte.jpg"
any advice? The only way I can get it to look like its working is combine it with an after the end folder
 

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It sounds like the dude just threw it up on the workshop without bothering to check if it works. One of us should try to get in touch with the author of that mod and help them out.

I and several other people have tried to contact him through the comments, but he's gone utterly silent since people have been complaining.
 

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Okay so, I'm playing as the Emperor of California. Doing fairly well at consolidating the de jure empire under my rule. The game popped up the option to usurp a kingdom title from one of my vassals. I do so... and suddenly all the dukes in that kingdom are independent of my rule. Why?
 

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Okay so, I'm playing as the Emperor of California. Doing fairly well at consolidating the de jure empire under my rule. The game popped up the option to usurp a kingdom title from one of my vassals. I do so... and suddenly all the dukes in that kingdom are independent of my rule. Why?

I'm fairly certain that you're not supposed to be able to usurp a title from your vassal. Even if you have a claim, that should probably be a revoke action. Simply put... you encountered a bug and expected the result to make sense?

From a mechanical standpoint, if you usurp a Kingdom, then the former King becomes one Duke among many, and his Duke-level vassals gain independence, which is probably why they're independent now. If it's any consolation, they'll probably accept vassalization offers, and you have de jure claims if they don't.

Any interesting characters list for After the End?

Well, first of all, there's your usual suspects: The characters listed on the official starts are usually there for a reason, and there's merchant republics all across the map.

If you live somewhere represented in the mod, you could start from there and build a mighty empire, which I think is part of the appeal for most people.

I could go on with general suggestions (so many religions! so little time!) but if you're looking for something more specific, just look around for a while. There's plenty of places of interest. AtE is ridiculously full of content, there's plenty for everyone.
 
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I'm fairly certain that you're not supposed to be able to usurp a title from your vassal. Even if you have a claim, that should probably be a revoke action. Simply put... you encountered a bug and expected the result to make sense?

From a mechanical standpoint, if you usurp a Kingdom, then the former King becomes one Duke among many, and his Duke-level vassals gain independence, which is probably why they're independent now. If it's any consolation, they'll probably accept vassalization offers, and you have de jure claims if they don't.

Fair enough. I'm still Figurehead, so I'm thinking regaining the territory will be a little more complex than that, but now I know.

EDIT: For the record, I am continuing to get usurpation options on my vassals, I'm not sure why. Consider this a bug report, I suppose.
 
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Just curious guys, have you figured out what the "Black Death" for ATE is going to be like? I remember there was lots of conversation around the time Reaper's Due was released, I just want to know where we are at when it comes to the epidemic.
 
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So I've noticed that the Ozarks are the only culture group in the game that uses the Finno-Urguaic portraits, but when I present debutante it defaults to western portraits. Is there any way to work around this? I want my Finno-nation
 

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So I've noticed that the Ozarks are the only culture group in the game that uses the Finno-Urguaic portraits, but when I present debutante it defaults to western portraits. Is there any way to work around this? I want my Finno-nation
Maybe you should stop using ironman and start using console commands to turn their graphical culture to ozark.