Geographically speaking, I think it would make a lot more sense for the Redcoats to become Ursuline, which is basically the same as Catholicism. The Abbess-general is much closer to New England than the Pope in St. Louis.
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Plus there's already an established inclination to matriarchy (Hail the undying Queen)
Isn't the Sedevacantist position in the mod that the surviving members of the USCCB called a dubiously legitimate synod to pass on the title of petrine successor under unsubstantiated information (i.e. the idea that there was no living Bishop of Rome). If it was discovered that there was no living claimant to Peter's Chair in the old world, that would seem to legitimize the St. Louis Catholic position. It's not like contemporary sedevacantists objecting to modernism.
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Is it? The description for the religion says:
That last sentence might imply that they consider confirmation of the Roman Papacy's vacancy sufficient cause to recognise the Pope in St Louis (and that could be part of the event chain, with Sedevacantist provinces flipping back to Catholic and characters being given the option) but the description earlier refers to "even if it has ceased to exist" so it's hardly indisputable.
No mention is given to the origin of the post-Event Papacy, and thanks to Haghog's Evangelical events being added it's now canon that the Pope was at some point a Protestant convert. Having maintained for centuries that the Pope in St Louis is a pretender, the Sedevacantists would hardly turn around and embrace him. I mean, the apostolic succession has already been broken! They rather change focus from wanting to reconnect to Rome to wanting to reconquer Rome, and claim that the city itself is necessary for the Papacy to be legitimate. The theology may be dodgy but that's why they're heretics, and it's simpler from a mechanical standpoint than trying to model them setting up a rival Papacy.
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@Dryhad @Intrepica On this issue, I agree with Dryhard. The most important thing we have to keep in mind here is that we are talking about religions and traditions that take place in a scattered and divided world, with feudal conditions, and over centuries. There will never be consistency or uniformity (just as medieval Catholicism was more heterogeneous than present Catholicism). Whatever could have happened in the past after the End is not important for 2666. What is important is what people in 2666 believe happened. Sedevacantists in 2666 might also hold different positions among themselves, but it is safe to assume that after 6 centuries they see the New Papacy in a very negative way and even if there was an event that confirmed the non-existence of the Pope in Old Rome (which I advise against), Sedevacantists would still have arguments against St Louis. Or more generally, SV heresy would comprise everyone who thinks that St Louis See is illegitimate, and this might happen for various reasons. A new wave could come out of nothing. Indeed, I don't believe there are any rulers/provinces that are SV in 2666, hence any SV resurgence would be a "modern" (for 2666) Sedevacantist movement.
But I honestly think that there are minor details, since they wouldn't add much to mechsnics
What do you guys think about my other proposals? New clothes for Cardinals, new Holy Sites, new Mercenaries, New Holy Orders, Notre Dame, new religious traits, new religious titles and events, new pre and post apocalyptic Saints?
Here's my original post. I honestly want to know what you guys think about it. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...tic-america-mod.831384/page-194#post-20808682
But I honestly think that there are minor details, since they wouldn't add much to mechsnics
What do you guys think about my other proposals? New clothes for Cardinals, new Holy Sites, new Mercenaries, New Holy Orders, Notre Dame, new religious traits, new religious titles and events, new pre and post apocalyptic Saints?
Here's my original post. I honestly want to know what you guys think about it. https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/foru...tic-america-mod.831384/page-194#post-20808682
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Hey are you guys still planning to add more canadian provinces? I want to do a canadian reunification run but I don't want to start until you guys are done adding those provinces for now.
Some good ideas, but not a high priority for us right now. I think the Catholics are powerful enough with two holy orders, I'm not sure they need three or more. A Catholic merc group wouldn't make them much stronger, so that would probably be fine.
I do like those Cardinal clothes, and they would work especially well in St. Louis *cough*. I don't know who made them, but I would like them included if the creators grant us permission. If you (or someone else) wants to do the legwork of getting permission and creating a pull request on the Github I will add them (same with a Fighting Irish merc group).
I'm open to new traits, but I haven't heard anything compelling yet.[/user]
Bug (on the latest Github version): Some of the flags were mixed up (so far I've seen the Comancheria with Abilene's flag and Tuskegee with some pirate nation's flag
I'd say High Church, what with it actually being the Anglican Church.
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The new hairstyles added for black characters aren't showing up for me. Is this a bug on my end and what can I do to fix it?
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The new hairstyles are contained in the "African faces DLC" folder, so that's the folder you need to make sure is installed properly, as opposed to the main After the End folder.
You also must have the African DLC for vanilla to make them work.
The new hairstyles are contained in the "African faces DLC" folder, so that's the folder you need to make sure is installed properly, as opposed to the main After the End folder.
You also must have the African DLC for vanilla to make them work.
I have the same problem, I have the DLC enabled and the submod enabled but they wont show.
Yeah, I haven't played in a version or two but the last time I did, I had that problem as well.
There is also an event for the Redcoats to convert to High Church. And before you ask, one for them to convert to Occult. These are counterparts to the Mongol Conversion events in vanilla. Those ones include Catholic, Orthodox, Nestorian, Sunni and Shia, so it's possible adding more options would be justified.
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This should work on Mac right? Because it is showing in the Mod Launcher and I am checking it but it is not working. Here it is
Found a bug. I'm playing the most recent Github version, whenever I use ruler designer on the Horselord of Black Hills, it spawns my character as the independent feudal count of Black Hills with the Castle of Deadwood. The Nomad Black hills has the other two counties and is also independent.
There appears to be a bug with the titular titles, as well as a few landed titles, mixing up the flags.
(This is the latest github version)
Probably caused by Black Hills erroneously having a castle holding instead of a tribal holding. I just changed this on the Github version, let me know if that fixed your problem.
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Fixed. Amazing how much damage a single misnamed flag image can cause.
I think the diplomatic range should be improved. I've started a game as the Duke of Saguenay (A Quebecquois Lord North of Montreal: he is actually one of the proposed Starts in Canada) and I can find no bride for my sons except for local courtiers.