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My first language is Russian and I'm typing this from my phone

Yes, this does answer why. Anyway it it also completely illogical, cause actualy poland-russia is good move, if you have inherited bohemia and hungary, done all polish missions, and entacted it's decisions. Because forming russia give you cores and decisions too. Also few fine missions, in addition.
 

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Yes, this does answer why. Anyway it it also completely illogical, cause actualy poland-russia is good move, if you have inherited bohemia and hungary, done all polish missions, and entacted it's decisions. Because forming russia give you cores and decisions too. Also few fine missions, in addition.

No because you get the cores faster by forming Russia from Muscovy, then you can just culture sift and pu Bohemia Polland and Hungary for cores.
 

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No because you get the cores faster by forming Russia from Muscovy, then you can just culture sift and pu Bohemia Polland and Hungary for cores.
Culture shifting as Russia requires you to do stupid gamey crap, because culture unions can't shift by the normal mechanism.
 

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Culture shifting as Russia requires you to do stupid gamey crap, because culture unions can't shift by the normal mechanism.


Just saying that if you wan't to play horde colonizing type of game your best of using Muscowy, if for nothing else than forming russia 60 years earlier for all the cores and the missions. Also culture sifting in general is gamey imao
 
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Just saying that if you wan't to play horde colonizing type of game your best of using Muscowy, if for nothing else than forming russia 60 years earlier for all the cores and the missions. Also culture sifting in general is gamey imao
I guess Iwanov thinks Poles are better off learning to be Russians instead. :p
 

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To be honest I have no desire to form Russia with Poland. As the game stands now the area where Russia should be is a huge mess. The Hordes have neutered Muscowy and the Teutonic Order has done the same thing to Novgorod. Both of those countries have only one province each now and the rest of the area is filled with other one province minors that the Horde, Sweden and TO curb stomp every couple of years. Even if they conquer them another rebellion pops up and they split off in short order.

As for me as Poland I've managed to expand a LOT by both diplomacy and warfare. Moldavia was diplo annexed after they conquered Transylvania. Mazovia also agreed to join me peacefully. I took Warmia from the Teutons and Carpethia from the Hungarians. Then I managed to colonize and keep the Crimea and two other Horde provinces that border it and whose names I cant remember....or spell in all liklihood. ><
Best of all, in a series of small wars I've been called into by various allies (Sweden, Burgundy, Silesia, etc) I've managed to maintain the PU with Lithuania and build a sizable army & army tradition in process.

It's only about 1465 now and my inflation is brutal but Poland is a power to be reckoned with...just not in it's traditional areas. Am wanting to expand westward towards richer lands but a Bohemia/Austria/Brandenburg alliance seems to have been created solely to prevent that. Will just have to see how that goes I guess.
 

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Well it is harder for russ to become pole, because it is hard to learn how to be a free man. It is however very easy to become a slave from free men.

That makes no sense, more likely is that the conquered become slaves working for free men of conquerors. Are you saying its hard for poles to become free men? Well I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, I didn't mean for you to take it so seriously. Sorry
 
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That makes no sense, more likely is that the conquered become slaves working for free men of conquerors. Are you saying its hard for poles to become free men? Well I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, I didn't mean for you to take it so seriously. Sorry

Well, you can be allways slave of slave, and in russia, everyone was slave to the czar.
 

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Well, you can be allways slave of slave, and in russia, everyone was slave to the czar.


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