Oops! Meant "National Socialists". I'll edit that now. THANKS!
So, no IC reduction once UK at peace? Sounds good - but something MUCH worse will happen instead (next installment).
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Oops! Meant "National Socialists". I'll edit that now. THANKS!
So, no IC reduction once UK at peace? Sounds good - but something MUCH worse will happen instead (next installment).
"Time reveals all."
Next 2 installments will give considerable more info in the direction of your inquiry, although currently I am hoping not.
When inheriting a country you inherit all their stockpiles. That includes the stockpile of money which can be below zero. Still i wonder how germany managed to accumulate so much debt after losing a ic and all(?) troops.
How on earth could Germany have accumulated -$7k in 2 months considering it has free research and a tiny army. Maybe it has a large navy somewhere or something.
But yeah, if the country you're annexing has less then 0 money, the annexer shouldn't inherit that!
But yeah, if the country you're annexing has less then 0 money, the annexer shouldn't inherit that!
WOW! This does not forebode well for the Commander's new plan. Now I am most worried. It might be -$30,000.00 next annex attempt.
And not much I can do about it as screen shots for the next 3 installments are done!
No, there's no Kriegsmarine left anywhere. The RN is not THAT incompetent! Germany has no other Allies. They do have a few Luftwaffe in Finland still.
No way I should inherit Germany's debt. That is NUTs! I simply burn all of Hitler's War Bonds.
Could Germany's climbing debt be on account of ongoing research but no IC to produce money? But they shouldn't be able to fund research if no positive money!
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AI does not need money for research. Can you load a savegame as germany to see where the money goes?
Why? If debt can be accumulated making it disappear into nothing makes no sence.
Why? If debt can be accumulated making it disappear into nothing makes no sence.
AI doesn´t have to pay for research teams, so it must be something else.
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Of course it makes sense. One doesn't honor enemy debt. Did the Allies directly pay Krupp for the millions probably owed to them by Germany? Did they pay Franco anything he may have supplied to Germany (but maybe not fully paid for?) And what about Switzerland? Were Germany's deposits safe there after WW2? Not if the Allies could do anything about it.
For one thing, it would further encourage people to arbitrarily stay at war. War already gives the CG bonus, which can lead to exploits both on single player and multi-player. And who is owed this debt? The people of the annexed country? I doubt the annexer would want to pay them back, and I especially doubt the annexer country would stop funding research to pay them back.
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Debt in AoD to gets you icd out of nothing. The needed change is not to eliminate inheriting of money but creating debt in the first place.
Another needed change is to allow supplies to go into the negative to avoid certain exploits.
Forgot to answer "Can I load as Germany to see where the money went?" Yes I can, but that might be considered "illegal intel"
Besides, its much more fun debating with you that this is simply a rediculous debt, I'm not paying it, and I will find a way - come "hell or high water" to get out of it!
Sorry, I agree with Mr_BOnarpte on EVERY point here. Basically it is a debt with no creditors left to demand payment, or anybody to even contact about giving payment to. The country is annexed - including all it's creditors.
And what about "Unconditional Surrender?"
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Oh my!
That is one expensive annexation
"Yes" but "No" since I'm not doing it. Mr_BOnarpte makes a most excellent point that this might encourage not annexing Germany (and keep my higher wartime IC). Of course, we'll have to deal with the world-wide flak why we aren't liberating Poland.
Creditor is irrelevant. In physical economy there is no such concept as debt. Can i have have -3 apples please? Debt and its opposite are just administrative tools to allocate resources. But you cannot create resources out of nothing.
Like Germany supporting Franco in the SCW, but only giving 50 supplies? :rofl:
Firstly, there are no administrators or resources or German economy that matter. And with annexation it is not a matter of "creating resources out of nothing" but having bombed everything - including notes of credit - to nothing. The AoD calculations that created that wealth on account of credit are simply "null and void" as regards the annexer.
While AoD game mechanics might have a technical problem trying to account for the unpaid credit, I have no problem at all with it. The credit is dishonored.
Besides, once I do manage to annex Germany (at a reasonable cost) I then face buying all of French held Poland to be able to liberate Poland. I hope the French will be more reasonable than the Germans are about losing the war! :laugh:
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