Adventurers

[FifthMonarchy]

I've recently been playing a game as Miaphysite Egypt and have let the Coptic Pope remain independent for RP reasons. Now all my disgruntled claimants hang out in his court and spawn right there with mahoosive stacks of doom. Fortunately the AI doesn't spawn in flanks so I wait for them with the middle stacked and well defended and win because both wings are unopposed. Still get 500 gold off claimants though IIRC you don''t get money from random chancer type adventurers any more.

 

[zharliette]

Adventurers strike me as a particularly gamey, unrealistic and unrewarding part of the game as is.

Since you know when the bastard's coming, have your whole army (or at least enough to beat him) raised and at full morale by that deadline.

IMO adventurers should be more politically active, not just some random dudes(though they have their place as well). For example, when you take away somebody's lands, they could make marriage alliance or some sort of pact with another realm and press their claim with the backing of, let's say France or various nobles from France. And maybe even your own vassals could side with the adventurer, if they dislike you enough. This way the threat they pose would be more varied and interesting.

Also they shouldn't be automatically imprisoned. I'd much prefer if some of them escaped and started planning another attack and passed on their claims, so you would get a line of pretenders attacking you every generation or so. Like the Blackfyres, to take a fantasy example.

 

[Dresen]

Man they have been toned soooooo far down.

I too havent played in a while so they were horrible back when I did play. One of my last games I played right before I quit was as the Byz Empire & I remember getting really pissed off when an adventurer popped up with like 100k troops or something dumb & just owned me. Its like back then they were always set up to appear with like 3x your total amount of troops. It was super unrealistic, like how can this random person all of a sudden make 3x more troops than the largest empire in the world has appear out of thin air?

Its not so bad now days. They seem to be appearing with maybe half my total amount of troops, so they are manageable (and a lot more realistic) now.

It still can happen but they are scripted adventurers like Magyars or Seljuks