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If I revoke a barony/bishop title so that I hold it instead, what does that do? Do I get a bigger proportion of their levy? Do I get any negatives?
 

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You get full tax and levies from baronies you hold. One notable positive is that if you hold multiple holdings in the same county, then your councillors can be more effective at raising levies or taxes in that county since their effects will apply to all your holdings in that county.

The downside is that each barony you hold is one county you could be holding instead. That's about the only downside, though.
 

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If you, as a feudal lord, hold a city or temple, then you will get penalties for doing so. For example, in the game, Middlesex has St Paul's. If you hold it, you will be holding a holding of the wrong type.
 

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In Ck2, as a catholic, you play a noble. Noble are supposed to hold only castle.
If you hold a city or a bishopric, you'll get a "wrong holding penalty" lowering taxes by 75% and maybe some other stuff.

For the pros and cons of getting baronies you have :

pros :
- if your territory is little, grant yourself more direct tax and full levy
- If you put a chancellor and have multiple holdings in the county, they all get boosted (very very efficient if you hold a 6 barony county.)

cons :
- If your territory is big enough, it grant less than having another county (less direct vassal, less technological spreed inside your demesne...)


My opinion is that you must always think about the difference with taking a county if available.
If there is no county that you can take, there is a very high chance that getting the barony is a good thing for you (if the demesne size allows it).
If you can take a county, there is a lot to think about : technology, any vassal duke having de jure right on the county, what is already built, your current relation with each vassal...