Advanced Governments in 1.5 Banks/Utopia

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Antediluvian

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Will the Galactic Administration tech now be giving a mere +1 Civic to choose from instead of the old Advanced Government Forms? I understand that the buff equivalent of another Civic is somewhat close to the doubled buff of the advanced government form (arguably), but RP-wise the old forms hinted at more advanced concepts than simply "Oligarchy", "Imperial", "Democratic", etc.

i'm assuming that the old Advanced Government Forms were removed along with all the simple ones but i wanted to express my hope for some kind of new Advanced Government Forms in addition to the +1 Civic. I realize this is likely not the case, provided i couldn't find anything about it in the Patch Notes.


Thanks in advance.
 

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+1 civic. Wiz added parliamentary politics in the starfish clash. For 250, you can change your government completely except for the civics like starting with robot pops.
 

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In terms of bonuses, this does not really change much. In terms of fglavour descriptions, the new system actually opens up a lot more possibilities as any combination of 3 civics could potentialy have a separate name and description.
 

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Thanks for the replies and clarification. Suffice to say i am very excited for the civics, new governments and just about everything in Banks/Utopia. I am just one of those hoping they would expand on the new government system in the future.
 

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Yes, it i +1 Civic Slot. Bringing the total to 3.

Personally I was never a fan of the "Advanced Government Forms". All they realy did was double the bonus (something a simple check might have done), mess up empire name and the election shedules.
I mean ther was never a choice to go advanced or not - it was just plain twice the bonus. It was simply better numerically, but requiring resource investments.

This way allows for more meaningfull choices.
 

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Yes, it i +1 Civic Slot. Bringing the total to 3.

Personally I was never a fan of the "Advanced Government Forms". All they realy did was double the bonus (something a simple check might have done), mess up empire name and the election shedules.
I mean ther was never a choice to go advanced or not - it was just plain twice the bonus. It was simply better numerically, but requiring resource investments.

This way allows for more meaningfull choices.

You make some valid points. I suppose i liked the old advanced governments mostly for RP purposes. Its just that the existing options for government seem kinda limited to me without considering how Civics play in.
 

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You make some valid points. I suppose i liked the old advanced governments mostly for RP purposes. Its just that the existing options for government seem kinda limited to me without considering how Civics play in.
The description and name of a Government will now be created from Civics and Authority.
For example, a "Fanatic Purifier" with elections would have a "Purity Council" (I saw it in the feature overview).

So in a way, they got a lot more actually different concepts to cover now.
 

Antediluvian

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The description and name of a Government will now be created from Civics and Authority.
For example, a "Fanatic Purifier" with elections would have a "Purity Council" (I saw it in the feature overview).

So in a way, they got a lot more actually different concepts to cover now.

Yep, that's great. I for one am really happy for that part. I'm just looking at the coming election options, like heritage (1 ruler 1 successor), 50 year election or 10 year election, and think whether that's really all the options this game should have. I understand the new governments and civics are a huge improvement over the old governments, but i'm still hoping for more.