ADM points disappear during Westernization?

[CraftyScreen]

I'm westernizing as Cherokee, as a Dutch protectorate, in 1570. According to the tooltip, I have +7 administrative MP coming in every month. But my ADM score is at 0, and never goes up. In fact, the "0" is grayed.

Right now I'm at stability 0, because I started at 3. But if it goes down, and I have no way to get admin points, it's going to be a rough few decades, innit?

Is this the new patch? (I see that old descriptions of westernization -- MP going to -100 for example -- no longer apply.) Is this a bug? Does this have something to do with being a protectorate? (I lost my vassals, as expected, but at least I get to be Protestant!)

 

[Arthasus]

isn't that because you lose up to +15(or something like that) adm points to fill up westernization bar?

 

[Zwirbaum]

isn't that because you lose up to +15(or something like that) adm points to fill up westernization bar?

Up to 10. Between 5 an 10, depending on your income.

 

[IIWW]

like Atrthasus said. But why did You lost Your vassals? I never played in america, but I played in other regions like India, Africa or China, and never lost my vassals due to westernization.

 

[TheMeInTeam]

isn't that because you lose up to +15(or something like that) adm points to fill up westernization bar?

It's up to 10 per category. In 1.8 it's never more than 10 or less than 5, depending on your income (more income = slower progress, -1 progress per 15 gross income).

He's not very large so he's probably in the +10 or +9 range, and the ADM income can't keep up so he's only getting whatever his current ADM income is (sounds like 7 in this case).

 

[durvas]

like Atrthasus said. But why did You lost Your vassals? I never played in america, but I played in other regions like India, Africa or China, and never lost my vassals due to westernization.

You lose vassals when you become a protectorate.

 

[Fallout1986]

like Atrthasus said. But why did You lost Your vassals? I never played in america, but I played in other regions like India, Africa or China, and never lost my vassals due to westernization.

Because he is a protectorate (according to his post)

 

[CraftyScreen]

Is there anything I can do to reduce the "take"? 'Cause if I'm making 7 and losing 7, then I need to go into westernization with all the ADM points I will need for the entire period, to counter stability drops.

 

[grommile]

Is there anything I can do to reduce the "take"?

The only thing you can do to reduce the "take" is have a high income.

Bear in mind that this makes Westernization take longer.

'Cause if I'm making 7 and losing 7, then I need to go into westernization with all the ADM points I will need for the entire period, to counter stability drops.

This is a true statement.