Additions to some Muslim dynasties

[handynasty33]

Adding to all what ilikepie said

There are also two more historical inaccuracies

1- Caliph Umar the third Sunni caliph is stated to be from a Lowborn house, which is wrong because he was from the Hashimid dynasty like Abubakr, Uthman, and Ali.

2- The Rasids in Yemen are put as a normal house that extends to one generation.
Actually they are also from the Hashimid dynasty and they should have the traits of sayyid.
They are one of the most famous descendants of Muhammed in the Arab world. They also should have a weak inheritable claim to the Shia caliphate.


Sources:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rassids
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar (This link says he is from Banu Adi, this tribe is a cadet branch of Quraysh AKA Hashimid dynasty)

I can cite other sources but unfortunately they are written in Arabic.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Could you be more specific in what the connection should be ? Which characters should be added to make the connection ?

 

[handynasty33]

The geneaology of the Caliph Umar (the third sunni caliph): Umar the son of Khattab; the son of Nufail; the son of Abul Uzza; the son of Riza; the son of Ribah; the son of Qurat; the son of Adi; the son of Ka'b.

The pedigree of the Holy Prophet was: Muhammad the son of Abdullah; the son of Abdul Muttalib; the son of Hashim; the son of Abd Munaf; the son of Qussay; the son of Kulab; the son of Ka'b.

In the case of Abu Bakr and the Holy Prophet, Murrah in the eighth degree was their common ancestor.
In the case of the Holy Prophet and Umar, Ka'b in the ninth degree was their common ancestor.




The Rassid house needs to be completely revised.

The Founder of the house is Imam al-Qasim ar-Rassi who's pedigree is: al-Qasim ar-Rassi the son of Ibrahim; the son of Isma'el; the son of Ibrahim; the son of Hasan ar-Ridda; the son of Caliph Hasan; the son of Caliph Ali (cousin of the prophet Mohammed); the son of Abu-Talib.


I'll do a tree of his descendants and who took control of the immamate, to make things easier for you.




Meanwhile here are some invaluable resources about Muslim dynasties:

1-http://archive.org/stream/mohammedandynas00lanegoog#page/n6/mode/2up(The Mohammedan dynasties. Chronological and genealogical tables with historical introductions (1894))

2-http://www.forumancientcoins.com/historia/islam_gen5.htm

3-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_empires_and_dynasties

4-http://www.hamidaddin.net/ftree/03_13.htm (Rassid family tree)

 

[handynasty33]

I created the family tree for the Rassids from the the time of their creation in the game (1066) till the the time of their demise (1169) You can find it in the attachments. This tree is based
on Arabic genealogical resources and Yemen history books.

the first playable Rassid would be Hamza (the 12th Imam in the family tree). the second would be Ahmad (the 13th Imam in the family tree).


This Is the list of the Imams from the first till the 13th Imam Ahamd (dates of their reign are included):


al-Hadi ila'l-Haqq Yahya bin al-Husayn bin al-Qasim ar-Rassi 897-911 (descendant of the Prophet)
al-Murtada Muhammad 911-913, d. 922 (son)
an-Nasir Ahmad 913-934 or 937 (brother)
al-Muntakhab al-Hasan 934-936 or 939 (son)
al-Mukhtar al-Qasim 936-956 (brother)
al-Mansur Yahya 934-976 (brother)
ad-Da'i Yusuf 977-999 (son)
al-Mansur al-Qasim al-Iyyani bin Ali 999-1002 (descended from a cousin of al Hadi ila'l-Haqq Yahya)
ad-Da'i Yusuf 1002-1012 (second term)
al-Mahdi al-Husayn 1003-1013 (son of al-Mansur al-Qasim)
Abu Hashim al-Hasan 1013-1040 (descended from a brother of al-Hadi ila'l-Haqq Yahya)
al-Muhtasib al-Mujahid Hamzah 1040-1066 (son of Abu Hashim al-Hasan)
Long interregnum, no Rassid state because it had been fragmented.
al-Mutawakkil Ahmad bin Sulayman 1138-1171 (descended from an-Nasir Ahmad.)

in his reign (al-Mutawakkil) was the Ayyubid conquest of Yemen (1169 in the game) which ended the
Rassids as a state but not as a religious heir-achy.


The genealogy of the al-Qasim ar-Rassi (the founder of the house in the family tree) is: al-Qasim ar-Rassi the
son of Ibrahim; the son of Isma'el; the son of Ibrahim; the son of Hasan ar-Ridda; the son of Caliph Hasan; the son of Caliph Ali (cousin of the prophet Mohammed); the son of Abu-Talib.



I suggest that the Rassids should gain the trait of sayyid and should be made as a cadet branch of the Hashimid dynasty in the
game. Also they should have a weak inheritable claim to the Shia caliphate.

Note: You can use this site to open the unzipped file http://www.diagram.ly/.




Note 2: This is the biographies of the two last Imams who should be playable in the game:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Muhtasib_al-Mujahid_Hamzah
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Mutawakkil_Ahmad_bin_Sulayman

 

[Sleight of Hand]

Great work, handynasty33. I think it's fair to say that we need more experts on the Arab dynasties, so I'm sure this will be appreciated.

 

[Wezqu]

Handynasty33 I would suggest you to make a new thread and post those there as those are not related to the original bug report.

 

[handynasty33]

Thanks, Sleight of Hand, I don't want anything like appreciation or recognition. I rather want to help the game developers in making this game perfect.

Wezqu, I'm just too lazy to make another thread for all of this

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

Wezqu, I'm just too lazy to make another thread for all of this

Lucky for you there is a less-lazy moderator who can do it for you

 

[handynasty33]

Thanks :wub: