Adding Pacific Island Chains

[Shadowstrike]

I was kind of disappointed when I finally got to the pacific in EU that the only islands there were Hawaii and tahati. SUrely there could be some way of representing the various islands of the pacific, right? True, many of thos island were not colonized until past the EU period, but if a player wants to, why should an arbitaraty limit stop them?

 

[PatMaster]

Too small.

 

[unmerged(4928)]

Perhaps they could be included as a chain...one province each representing the Marshalls, the Marianas, Micronesia et al...

 

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Originally posted by BrianNewbie
Perhaps they could be included as a chain...one province each representing the Marshalls, the Marianas, Micronesia et al...

Sounds reasonable and gives human players a chance to get a port to explore from in the vast Pacific. The AI doesn't need them.

 

[Blade!]

YES, Island Chains must be represented... some are bigger than Hawaii (in total land area), and would make great refueling stops, and fishing bases!

 

[Demetrios]

A few more islands to break up the monotony of the Pacific would really be nice! It wouldn't have to be all that many, maybe six to ten more provinces total. The Solomon Islands, New Caledonia, Guam, and so on...

Easter Island would be really cool to see.

 

[The Danish King]

Fishing bases? Lol!

 

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Well, like was said before, the only person who would care/find these islands useful is the player, since the AI doesn't need any ports at all with unlimited attrition. Unless, I suppose the islands didn't have fish but had spices or something--but that doesn't seem that logical to me. How many wars have YOU had on Hawaii? In fact, how much action has taken place, say, east of SEA in your games? I know I haven't had any...

 

[Demetrios]

Originally posted by John_Keats
Well, like was said before, the only person who would care/find these islands useful is the player, since the AI doesn't need any ports at all with unlimited attrition. Unless, I suppose the islands didn't have fish but had spices or something--but that doesn't seem that logical to me. How many wars have YOU had on Hawaii? In fact, how much action has taken place, say, east of SEA in your games? I know I haven't had any...

I've had a war on Hawaii. The English decided to colonize one of the two Hawaiian provinces at the same time I decided to colonize the other. It was so irritating that I eventually had to take them out...

 

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well, Galapagos should be added. I guess they could export funny statues . I guess they hade other things too that maybe fit bether. Just not take the turtles

 

[Blade!]

Island Value..historically

Actually all of these islands were valued alot more historically for resources then they are today.... They were loaded with tons and tons of "bird droppings"! ... I am being serious however! There was fierce competition to harvest this resource for fertilizer and for the nitrogen and other chemicals used in warfare munitions. I do not know how it would fit into current economical models in EU... maybe EU II will have munitions supplies...or fertilizer...or just plain ol' "droppings" as an economic good!

 

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Originally posted by Galadriel
well, Galapagos should be added. I guess they could export funny statues . I guess they hade other things too that maybe fit bether. Just not take the turtles

You are thinking of Easter Island. The Galapagos has iguanas and finches.

 

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Re: Island Value..historically

Originally posted by Blade!
Actually all of these islands were valued alot more historically for resources then they are today.... They were loaded with tons and tons of "bird droppings"! ... I am being serious however! There was fierce competition to harvest this resource for fertilizer and for the nitrogen and other chemicals used in warfare munitions. I do not know how it would fit into current economical models in EU... maybe EU II will have munitions supplies...or fertilizer...or just plain ol' "droppings" as an economic good!

I think the guano wars were after the EU period.

 

[Carolus Rex]

Some islands would be neat.

Imagine such massive naval battles you could have there.

 

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Why wasnt new caledonia in EU? Thats got some size!

 

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Originally posted by Trooper


You are thinking of Easter Island. The Galapagos has iguanas and finches.

Sorry. I mixed them together. Anyway, more islands

 

[Aetius]

A good candidate chain is the Ryuukyuu chain (Okinawa basically) which the Japanese, well actually Satsuma, and the Chinese fought over during Japan's isolationistic period. It had a king and a sino-japanese culture and refused to come clear with who's vassal they actually were.

 

[Carolus Rex]

Yeah, the chinese and Japs must have known about the territory north of them.

 

[Agelastus]

Originally posted by Carolus Rex
Yeah, the chinese and Japs must have known about the territory north of them.

The Ryukyus are south of Japan, Carolus! You're getting mixed up again. The largest island is Okinawa by the way.

Sakhalin or the Kuriles, perhaps......which were you thinking of.

 

[Carolus Rex]

I never ment the Ryukus, I ment that they must have known about more islands.