Vassals and minor PUs of the Emperor should Add Provinces to the Empire or give the Emperor the diplomatic Option to order them do so.
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Wouldn't make sense. Austria's PU's historically never expanded the Empire's borders.
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That's true, but I usually play the different than history 
But avoiding Shadow Kingdom would be easier.
But avoiding Shadow Kingdom would be easier.
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Avoiding the Shadow Kingdom shouldn't be easier. Historically, an obsession with Italy was one of the factors that led to the decline of the HRE. It shouldn't be impossible to prevent, but it should definitely take a lot of effort.
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And some CB for the emperor would be nuce. If BBurg becomes Emperor early on they can't do anything to avoid it.
Yes it should be tough and take a lot of resources, but not because of coring adm cost, because of money and manpower.
And might it be there is no shadow kingdom event if you don't start at 1444? I started at 1456 (or something) and got no warning.
Yes it should be tough and take a lot of resources, but not because of coring adm cost, because of money and manpower.
And might it be there is no shadow kingdom event if you don't start at 1444? I started at 1456 (or something) and got no warning.
There was a simple historical reason Emperors didnt actively expand the HRE.
By having territory outside the HRE(habsburg hungary or hohenzollern prussia) you had a source of power immune to the Emperors will.
While the Habsburgs might have had the Emperorship for a long time they couldnt be 100% sure they would always keep it,as such putting all their territory under the juristiction of a potential future hostile Emperor wasnt considered wise.
By having territory outside the HRE(habsburg hungary or hohenzollern prussia) you had a source of power immune to the Emperors will.
While the Habsburgs might have had the Emperorship for a long time they couldnt be 100% sure they would always keep it,as such putting all their territory under the juristiction of a potential future hostile Emperor wasnt considered wise.
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I know why it didn't happen in real life, but ingame there is no such reason.
Following that logic it shouldn't even be possible to add provinces.
Following that logic it shouldn't even be possible to add provinces.
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Following that logic there be should be a potential down-side to adding territory to the HRE.
That's true, but I usually play the different than history
God, I hate this excuse...
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There should be a way to prevent the Shadow Kingdom without blobbing into Italy, for example some pre-1490 Casus Belli to force Venice, Papal State etc. to join the HRE.
Wouldnt it be simpler if you could keep them in the HRE simply by keeping good relations with them as Emperor untill 1490.
If 1490 passes with them at 150+ relations with Emperor they never leave the HRE.
If 1490 passes with them at 150+ relations with Emperor they never leave the HRE.
Why should there be such a thing?
In all honesty, Paradox are being incredibly generous to the Emperor by having the Italians start the game in the Empire. The last vestiges of Imperial credibility in the region can reasonably be claimed to have died when Rupert of the Palatinate's attempt to restrain Gian Galeazzo Visconti's conquest spree was a dismal failure.
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