Add Azerbajani to Persian Culture Group

[leadshooter69]

Azerbaijani should be added to the Persian culture group like how Breton was added to the French group. Azeri culture has strong Iranian influence and most Azeri territory was an integral part of the Persia in this period, with the Safavids originating from Azeri territory. Plus in this era many Azeris spoke the Old Azeri Language which was an Iranian language.

Also its silly how fast Persia loses its starting cores there.

 

[Basileios Makedon]

Ottoman nerf

 

[fridabina]

Ottoman nerf

I don't generally see Ottomans expanding into Azerbaijan so this will not affect them that much, and i also Support a stronger Persia as a blocking force against the Ottomans.

Another alternative would be to make main culture of Persia Azerbaijan if it is formed with it's power base in that area. They would still be the cultural union of the Iranian cultures and they wouldnt lose the Azeri culture as accepted.
Then again the cores is a problem and needs to be fixed somehow, seeing how Safavid Persia emerged from this area.

 

[leadshooter69]

Ottoman nerf

Much more of a Persia buff than an Ottoman nerf since the Ottomans play a cultural acceptance game anyway.

 

[talilu]

Oghuz group was a weak culture group anyways, picking Azerbaijani out of it makes it completely useless and weird. Where should Turkish and Turkmeni go after Azerbaijani leaves for Iranian group?

a) Turkish forms an Anatolian culture group with Greek and Gothic.

b) Turkish joins the Arabic cultures.

c) Turkmeni joins Tartar group.

d)Turkmeni joins Alatic group.

Opinions?

 

[leadshooter69]

Another option would be to leave Turkish as the only culture in its group like Hungarian. Works fine with their play style. Its not like Azerbaijani or Turkmeni did much for the Ottomans gameplay-wise anyway.

 

[Mattius]

The Turkish culture shod be split up. Surely there's a difference between the cultures of Hudavendigar and modern day eastern Turkey.

 

[talilu]

The Turkish culture shod be split up. Surely there's a difference between the cultures of Hudavendigar and modern day eastern Turkey.

Agree, maybe a Turkish culture which represents the settled lifestyle and a Yorouk culture which is for the still semi-nomadic Turks of Mountainous areas.

 

[aleatorus]

Oghuz group was a weak culture group anyways, picking Azerbaijani out of it makes it completely useless and weird. Where should Turkish and Turkmeni go after Azerbaijani leaves for Iranian group?

a) Turkish forms an Anatolian culture group with Greek and Gothic.

b) Turkish joins the Arabic cultures.

c) Turkmeni joins Tartar group.

d)Turkmeni joins Alatic group.

Opinions?

Then what? Byzantium becomes a cultural union for Anatolian cultures? And what about Pontic? I think those cultures are fine as is, but I do think Azerbaijani should be put into the Iranian group. Besides, cultures aren't supposed to be balanced. Should German and Magyar have an equal number of subcultures?

 

[talilu]

No, of course it doesn't need to be balanced. Turkish people were adopting this new Byzantine culture and weren't ALL that different than Greeks of the area, at least in the west where had no Arabic influence. That's why I suggested the Anatolian group.

Byzantium being the cultural union is somewhat problematic though I agree and making Ottomans a culture union would not solve the issue either.